Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
TWA In HNL Back In The 1980's  
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

Back in the 80's I used to see several TWAs at the Honolulu International Airport at once. Though I was into airplanes spotting since then, I never knew what routes did TWA flew to and from HNL. By the way, most of the TWAs were 747s.

So, if anyone knows or remember those routes, please post them (not just the 80's, any year).




Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
23 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineAa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

I know there was one STL route I saw pull into the gate when I was younger..


Go big or go home
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6564 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

TWA flights #1/2 operated STL-HNL-STL with the 747-100.

They also flew LAX-HNL with the L1011 for a long time.


Steve/MSY


User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

A map in a TWA timetable (dated June 1, 1973) shows two routes to HNL - one to/from Los Angeles and one to/from Guam.

Another timetable (dated January 1, 1987) indicates that there were two routes to HNL - one to/from Los Angeles and one to/from St. Louis.

I know I didn't provide much, but I hope it helps  Big grin

jeremy


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6564 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

The LAX-HNL flight, much like Pan Am's at the time, originated in JFK usually. The L1011 was the most common equipment used, but the 747 did operate that route from time to time.

STL-HNL was a 747 route until TWA got rid of those classic birds. It then flew with the 763 (sometimes 752 if you can believe it) until AA swallowed them up.


Steve/MSY


User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3265 times:

STL-HNL on a 752?!?! I doubt thats possible. I can see it maybe being possible on the HNL-STL leg but there is no way that they were putting that in with the risk of strong head winds.


Father, Son, HOYA spirit
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6564 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3256 times:

Nycfuturepilot, you're right, the 752 flew HNL-STL nonstop, not the other way around. It made a stop in LAX I believe on the flight to HNL.


Steve/MSY


User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

I remember seeing that there ws a flight from JFK to HNL with stop either in LAX or STL. I think LAX, it makes sence but STL sticks ou tin my mind. I also think I remember service to OGG, do I remember correct? Was there more that just service to HNL as far as Hawaii Service for TWA?
sr



W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6564 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

TWA flew Los Angeles - Kona with a 752 if i'm not mistaken.


Steve/MSY


User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3233 times:

Towards the end, TWA was doing KOA-LAX-STL with the 757.

David / MRY


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3196 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Even after TW was absorbed by AA, a TW painted B763 would come into HNL (same time as the old TW flight). I think it was from STL. Correct me if I'm wrong.

User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Yes, during the transition period, TWA Airlines, LLC continued to operate the 767-300 flight from STL.

David / MRY


User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 495 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

TWA flew Los Angeles - Kona with a 752 if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, you're right. During the summer, they would often use the 767 (I don't know if it was a 200 or 300.) AA eventually took this route. AA now serves this with a 752 or 763. I miss seeing those old TW birds!


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3088 times:

Back in the 80s and 90s TW's service @ HNL arrived in the late afternoon or early evening, and departed as red-eyes. TW also used 762ERs on the STL route.

In the 90s, TW did use 741s on the LAX route as well as L1011s. I should know, one of my cousins flew a 741 back home to LA.

The last TW flight I took was in 1975, from LAX to HNL in a 703. I had an opportunity to go to LAX on a super-cheap fare in the 90s right before the LAX route was stopped, but did not have the time to take advantage of it.

Such a shame to see TW gone, as well as the STL flight.



"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineCanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3072 times:

Wow, this takes me back. I remember working ramp in college at COU (Columbia, MO), I'd see TWA 1 fly over every day at the same time. I want to say it was in the AM. Not sure why it stood out, but I always seemed to be on the ramp around the same time when it would go overhead.

Sorry guys just a little off topic.



The beatings will continue until morale improves
User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

I was a TWA Service Manager based in STL and flew the STL HNL STL routes on the 747. The flights ran full and the passengers were delightful. Mostly midwesterners who felt so very priviledged to get to fly a NONSTOP to that majical part of the world. A very wonderful memory. A sad memory all mixed up in one!

User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2851 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

I remember seeing the B741s! I remember when I was out at HNL's lagoon drive one evening before sunset, and watched this new colored B741 taxi RB for 08R departure. If only I had a camera.  Sad

After TW was absorbed by AA, they continued to have a B763 in the old red cheatline colors, and even have a photo if it in HNL.


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

TWA's STL-HNL route lasted until AA cut it November 1st, 2003. The route was operated by an AA B763ER daily. Yeah, Je89_w, that was in the days when TWA 747s flew STL-HNL. Boy, those memories of when those gigantic jets came to STL daily  Love  Crying


Fly one thing; Fly it well
User currently offline777GK From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

I also recall seeing TWA 767-300ER's in OGG alongside AA 767s as recently as late 2002, operating the STL-OGG flight I'd imagine.

User currently offline094147 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

I go back even further than you guys. Before the 747 and 757 and 767, there was the 707. TW had two 707-331B's that circled the globe in opposite directions every day. Both originated in JFK. One went east and one went west. I believe they were Flight # 1 ( westbound) and Flight # 2 ( eastbound). HNL was a scheduled stop for both flights.



wildcat one
User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

There was a short period of time, I'm thinking 93 or 94 that TWA flew twice a day (on certain days) STL-HNL.

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3268 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

I believe, in 1982-83 timeframe, TWA didn't fly into Hawaii at all. At least, that's what the timetable indicated.




.......
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Jmc1975

I'm not sure about those years. I started spotting on 87. And to be honest I always flew CO and UA. But thank you for the information.



Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2469 times:



If I'm not mistaken, they used to fly a 707 STL-HNL during the 70's (I think).


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Wide Body Jets On Short Routes In The 1980's posted Thu Jun 29 2006 03:54:20 by Eastern1985
Airlines With Hub/focus City @ ORD In The 1980's? posted Sun Feb 5 2006 00:42:51 by TheFlyGuy2
Delta Airpasses In The 1980's And 1990's posted Thu Oct 28 2004 21:12:36 by BSU747
TWA And ATL In The Mid 90's posted Wed Jun 16 2004 18:59:10 by Jerion
TWA Accident In Japan In The 1970's posted Tue Feb 24 2004 05:44:55 by Dandy_don
TWA 717's Still In The Desert? posted Mon Oct 14 2002 15:54:10 by 717fan
When Are We Going To See The First TWA A/c In AA? posted Thu May 10 2001 13:56:57 by 777-500ER
In Vientiane - 2 Questions About The Airport posted Tue Nov 21 2006 10:52:48 by Pe@rson
TUI In Germany :the Group Needs A White Knight... posted Sun Oct 15 2006 11:37:06 by Beaucaire
NW Confident In Getting The China Route posted Thu Oct 5 2006 15:57:47 by B2443