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Spirit Airlines To Start Airbus Service Nov 18  
User currently offlineElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

This can be tied into the "Is Spirit Airlines Good" thread....

http://www.freep.com/money/business/spirit18e_20040518.htm

Beginning Nov. 18, Spirit plans to start flying four Airbus A321's from Detroit, Atlantic City, New York and Ft. Lauderdale. Spirit had previously planned on starting Airbus service in the first quarter of 2005.


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

Will Spirit ever come to IND? I would love to see more LCCs here  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

Is Sprit competing head to head against Northwest out of DTW? Can anyone? It would be great to see JetBlue, Song or Ted at DTW, but it won't happen. NW doesn't need a low-cost carrier.


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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4748 times:

Maybe when the new Smith Terminal gets done the LCCs will come in??? (although that will probably be a LONG time away---have they even started that project yet?)


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

Is Sprit competing head to head against Northwest out of DTW?

Yes they are, although NW often "ignores" their (and other LCC, such as WN and HP) fares. NK has been able to establish itself and and continues to grow -- in fact, on peak departure days this fall they'll offer more seats to LAS than NW, despite NW's tour product & hub. Meanwhile, WN continues to shrink.

Can anyone?

NW's O/D market share at DTW is about 50% -- probably much less than what you'd expect from an airline that (alongside its Airlink affiliates) often controls more than 80% of the traffic...

Airlines such as AA, UA and DL have always had and will continue to have a large portion of the O/D business traffic at DTW.


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

Maybe when the new Smith Terminal gets done the LCCs will come in???

I doubt the LCC will ever come in masses. NW isn't the problem -- the problem is Detroit's dinosaur business community has shown a willingness to pay a premium to fly on the legacy carriers... and because of the sheer size of the largest corporate accounts, they've been getting damn good pricing lately, too.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4612 times:

IP said it right, DTW is an interesting market and all of the large businesses have huge corporate accounts. Part of the reason NW doesn't have such a huge O&D percentage carries over from their NORTHWORST days back at the Davey dump when AA, UA, and DL got a large number of corporate accounts. NW is now taking some of those back.

We will probably never see LCC's on a large scale simply because for the most part, DTW is pretty well covered from Spirit and WN. Spirit covers the Florida destinations and other low-yielders like LAS and ACY. And then WN just kind of does its thing here with opportunies to connect on out through MDW.

No we won't ever see TED or Song here. JetBlue is eyeing up FNT before DTW. The new Davey terminal will basically be a upgraded replacement, not a large expansion. Plus Spirit will be focusing most of its expansion out of FLL with the new aircraft, not primarily DTW.

One question I have, is that can NK get Airbus operations ramped up by Nov. First of all this is a totally new fleet type, COMPLETELY different in every aspect from the MD-80s. How will they have crews trained in time, and maintainance lined up, let alone have the aircraft? Are they going to be wet-leased at first?


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4559 times:

Good Luck to Spirit Airlines begin with new Airbus A321 & A319.

User currently offlineFlamant15 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

I wonder what JetBlue plans on doing with its LGA slots. I heard it is going to fly mostly to Florida with these slots until it gets its terminal completed at JFK. If jetBlue does go to Florida this is really going to hurt Spirit at LGA. Any thoughts?

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

If jetBlue does go to Florida this is really going to hurt Spirit at LGA. Any thoughts?

B6 would have minimal impact on NK. From LGA, NK serves DTW, FLL, MYR and MCO. NK's main operations (which it plans to continue to build upon) are in DTW and FLL. JetBlue likely wouldn't waste precious LGA slots flying to Mytle Beach! The same could be said of MCO, but if B6 operated it... hey, NK's held its own against several legacy airlines so why bot B6? NK will have DirecTV and a Premium cabin....


User currently offlineCorpsnerd09 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4423 times:

Does anyone know when they'll be starting their service to Latin America?


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

They already flies out of FLL-CUN back of December 18, 2003 and they are doing well to thems. Also, they will add with second daily from FLL-CUN this summer.

User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 929 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4253 times:

I was just over at Airbus.com and in the article about all the new A320 family operators in 2004 there is a mention that Spirit will start A321 service in September, 2004. If that's the case, we will be seeing Spirit Airbuses sooner than November!

cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

on local news here, they said November...I like the idea...I'd be willing to try Spirit on A321s, they are (to many FLL locals) a joke right now and their name is not out there (Hint to NK: advertising at hockey games is nice for hockey fans, but it doesn't help down here!)

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

Maybe it means that Spirit will take delivery of the first Airbii in September. Once final preparations are made, and such, it probably would be November by the time the plane enters service.

LH423



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Its interesting that Spirit can get its hands on A321s so quickly - I read that there are a couple of white tail A321s sitting around with Airbus, ordered by airlines that could not afford to accept delivery of the aircraft, I wonder if Spirit arranged to take these aircraft or if the A321s that are arriving early are a result of the leasing company changing a few aircraft allocations. If the September date is true, that is a about a 6 month order-to-delivery time frame which is exceptional for the A32X (or 737NG) aircraft which have huge backlogs.

User currently offlineBlueairbureau From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

I love hearing about my airline. It truly warms my heart! I have mentioned this once before, and I'll do it again. Northwest could care less if we're at DTW. The reason IS.......we stop the monopoly concerns! We have many departures to many different places which are really no hit to their books what so ever. We also fly many of their pilots to home in back. So in the great scheme of things we pose no threat to anyone. As far as my airline being a "joke", I consistantly receive requests for info on any mileage program. This means while we may be a joke to you we are "not" a joke to many people. I fly the LAX route from FLL on a weekly basis. I can think of about twenty regulars who fly this route in Spirit Plus. I will being seeing two of them tomorrow night.
Now about the airbusses. The reason we can so quickly get this plane on line is Airbus training facilities are so close to company headquarters. Our cabin trainers, mechanics,pilots have already started training. Airbus is very efficient at disseminating info. Plus my company is working day (some nights too.) in getting all the training taken care of. Knowing a few of the people who make things happen at Spirit, they are well capable of getting the job done while crossing every T and dotting every I.
Now let's talk cool....A321's. I guess there is maybe some joke in this. These planes are going to look real good with their new paint job. We may also finally be able to address some overbooking problems in the past. Did I mention are prices might even be able to drop if gas costs are shared with more people on the plane. The joke is we'll have new paint, new planes, fresh new faces in the cabin (we've been waiting for the light at the end of the tunnel), new routes, new financial backing, new heart, new focus, and best of all, the same dedication that has kept Spirit flying through the worst and the best. Jokes on you buddy!


User currently offlineMd80spirit From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Training for flight attendants will start in July.

User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

That is nice... A321 is a nice plane and will Spirit installed the Direct TVs on its Airbus A321s? I assume that it will has the "business" class cabin...

Carfield


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