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Saudi Arabian Airlines : What Can I Expect?  
User currently offlineLxsaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 325 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

Hi guys, probably I'll have an holiday in Paris (from Rome)and searching on the web I've found the lowest price (based on a full service carrier) with SV! (125 eur+tax a/r..... Less than AF or AZ prices).Flights are twice weekly with 777!!!
So I'm very curious: How is SV? Which your experience? As for you, do they offer also a catering service on this short route?
Please someone tell me something about this company!
Thanks a lot

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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Never flown on their 772, but i hear they have one of the most comfortable cabins of any 777 operator, i THINK the seat pitch in economy is 34"

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineAirlinefreak1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

if i were u , try them ... def. a change over the average AF ... the 777 is very comfortable ... enjoy wot ever u choose

regards


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19239 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

In which website did you find this flight? Cheers!


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineNorthwest717 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

What can you expect? If you use a cell phone inflight you can recieve a canning! No joke! But otherwise you should have a nice flight. (Just keep your cell out of site  Big grin)

-Tim

BTW, have a great flight!


User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4112 times:
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Make certain to observe and respect their customs. If you are flying during Ramadan meal service may be not what you expect. If you are a believer even though not an Arab you will be asked to wear traditional clothing as the plane enters Saudi airspace. Western women should not expect to be treated as equal and should wear at least a head scarf. You should not wear Christian or Jewish jewelry.

The service is extremly spartan-much like TWA at the end.


User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1185 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

Canning = to be placed in can and sealed, like vegetables, sodas, soup
Caning = to be hit or struck by a cane
 Smile



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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

I used SV regularly in the past to visit my dad in the Gulf. Their 777's are really great and the seats are really wide and comfy with lots of legroom. If I remember correctly they only give out drinks and a small sandwich on the short hop from CDG-FCO.

There are a few things you will find very intersting about flying with them, watch a film on the IFE and see how they cut out violent women from films or pixel parts of them out. I mean try watching "Crouching tiger,hidden dragon" it made no sense at all, what I could see of it. And there are no music videos as that's forbidden.

The male FA's don't do anything at all unless there is a manager from HQ upfront and the female FA's look really miserable all the time.

There is no booze whatsoever (hence I eventually changed to BA, LX and AF).

You'll love the prayer room at the back. Since a lot of them pray on the flt the toilets get a bit flooded as they have to wash their feet and hands in a small space.

You will really enjoy the experience as to my mind it really is the most unusual airline. It's the worst and the best all rolled into one.

Give us your thoughts on it on your return. Enjoy!!!



User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

'western women should wear at least a head scarf'

Absolute tosh! there is need to cover anything but your legs on an SV flight.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4041 times:
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Mike what is "tosh" I think you left a work out of your post.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19239 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

'Tosh' basically means rubbish/crap.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLxsaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

Thanks guys for all your answers!! So from what I hear SV probably is the most "islamic" airlines around the world! I'm not muslim but I want to respect all their customs...at the same time I wish they don't oblige me doing something of particular!If it were so , I couldn't say that SV is the most democratic airline!

X Pearson....I 've find this trip on an italian site ( www.eviaggi.com);I don't know exactly but if you don't find this price in UK maybe it should be so because this fare can be sold only in Italy; are you interested about a CDG/FCO on SV?

Hi


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Lxsaab2000, I have flown with them so many times and they offer great service and onboard comfort. They also have PTVs. I wouldn't worry at all about the rumors some other members are coming up with. You can be any religion/race/colour and you will not be hassled at all. Hope you have a good flight and holiday.


Western women should not expect to be treated as equal

What is wrong with you, where did you come up with this rubbish? I can assure anyone whether you're man or woman you will be treated equally and with a lot of respect.
Ultrapig, just because you watch movies that portray Saudis as women oppressors its not true, especially on their international airline.



EGYPT: A 7,000 Year Old Civilisation
User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3898 times:

Here here!

I agree totally!

I lived in the Gulf for 10 years, and found some of the locals to be the most welcoming, friendly people I have ever met, regardless of sex.

I am not denying that some muslim countries do things differently to countries in the 'Western world', but that does not mean it is wrong!

Some of the blame for this distorted view can go to the overdramatised, Western tabloid press!

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

I would like to add, that I would MUCH prefer to fly SV than the likes of KLM, Air France, maybe even BA to get to Saudi, THEY are Western airlines, but they know jack s**t about somethings, especially seat space!

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

I flew FCO-CDG on SV 777 in Jan99 and had a great flight; flight wasn't crowded at all and service was great. The flight leave FCO very early so the lack of alcohol shouldn't be a problem for most people...Great legroom with footrest even in Y. Meal service was a nice breakfeast. Enjoy your flight and ignore ingorent comments.

The777Man



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User currently offlineLxsaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2004, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Thanks to everyone!

This morning I was in SV office in Milan and they confirm what I saw on internet ; so it really exists this special fare!! (125 euro + taxes , as I said yesterday)
the trip's details:
FCO/CDG (28 May) SV 155 7:50--->9:50 in Y class
CDG/FCO (1 Jun) SV 162 11:45--->13:45 in Y class
But I haven't booked it yet because firstly I have to convince my friends to fly with an arab carrier!
I wish to carry out this trip with SV!

Does someone has any photos of SV 777 cabin (interior view)? on a.net there are photos only for th 747.

X Horus, I don't think it's true but someone in Italy told me that during particular periods on SV aircrafts there is place in the back where having "islamic prayers"....and that someone should pull out some carpets for this purpose!
Can you confirm this?
I think who told me so he was only joking!

Bye


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3538 times:

The prayer room is a curtained off room at the back. The pax have their own prayer mats with them.

It doesn't interfere with the flt whatsoever because if you didn't look behind the curtain you wouldn't know what was behind it. I first thought it was a place to put patients on stretchers.

In Ramadan all pax can eat at any time (according to the Koran) but the Muslim pax prefer to observe the fast and eat their meals later after sundown. Being a muslim or non muslim will not affect your flt at all, especially as you are flying within Europe.

The saudis are a bit nervous of photography and so I doubt you'll find any photos of the cabin interior. I have photos of the wing over various landmarks and a pile of in flight magazines.





User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17689 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

"THEY are Western airlines, but they know jack s**t about somethings, especially seat space!
"

That's because they aren't an arm of the state. Once, if ever, Saudi has to compete and not lose money, that will go away.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

Flew SV on GVA-JED(772)/JED-BKK(744)//DAC-RUH(743)/RUH-JED-ATH-MXP(M90) and all flights where quite nice and ok. Very friendly FA, good food, nice seats and great PTVs in the 772.

Enjoy your flight ...



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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1411 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

SV make money, they do not make a loss.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Huyfan, their international flights are profitable (especially during the Hajj period). Their most profitable market is to Egypt.

On the domestic side, the story is different as many of the routes are run for the government and for the benefit of local businesses, and as a result many routes do not attract high yields so they operate at a loss.



EGYPT: A 7,000 Year Old Civilisation
User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3345 times:
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Horus:

Ok I apologize Saudi women are treated as equal to men-

They are allowed to drive cars
They can go out in public without he air covering
They can leave the country without their husband's position

Right? Wrong?

Its a different society-a tribal islamic society different that what we have it the west-Like I said we should respect their customs-> When i was in Eguypt (an treat extremly well) I respected Islamic customs-but they are different and like in most fundamental religions -Evangelic Christian stirct Catholic and orthodox Je udians all of which have long histories Women have rights but different rights from men.

That being said Saud Airliens give very poor service-I'd rather fly Egypt Air any day.


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

Ultrapig, without deviating from the thread too much. Yes the points you said are true, but that is more due to cultural traditions rather than religious obligations. Besides why do people always highlight the bad parts in a country. Just this week in the UK, statistics showed that 2 women die a week due to domestic violence (i.e. killed by their husbands). In the US on average 6 women get raped every minute. My point is there are problems with every society.

p.s Hope you had a good time in Egypt



EGYPT: A 7,000 Year Old Civilisation
User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 589 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3295 times:
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Agreed cultures are different that's why I like to travel and Egypt was great-freindly people great sights excellent guides-same in Jordon-I'm looking forward to going to Syria when the climate changes-Toruism is a great force for peace-people learn abvout each other leave their money in a fr oregin country and take their troubles home.

PS I have my typical tourist picture riding a camel by the Pyraminds-right here


25 Post contains images Horus : Well its great to see you had a good time, but you have to admit SV is a pretty good airline....come on....
26 Jaysit : Theyre just like any other airline. But they serve no alcohol on board. Which is a bore on a long flight. Female FAs are either Indian, British, Leban
27 Post contains links Korg747 : Here is a link to pictures inside both their 777 and 747s. http://www.saudiairlines.com/gallary.jsp#
28 Cedarwings : Lxsaab2000, Saudia has today introduced the first "internet-on board" on one of its 747-400. I hope you will be lucky enough to try it.
29 Lxsaab2000 : Thanks very much, guys!!
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