747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2765 times:
I was just making reservation on UA from IAD-DEN for July 13 and return July 20. By accident I typed in DCA instead of IAD. To my astonishment, I saw that UaAwill be having 2 nonstops from DCA-DEN on July 13. I have no idea when that serive starts or even UA is able to operate that flights as it is outside the perimeter rule at DCA and I didnt think they had permission to do it.
Also, in a very brief search of return flights I did not find a nonstop DEN-DCA flight. However, I plan to search some more. Is there anybody out there who can shed light and details on this rather interesting development. Many thanks.
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
F9 has been operating nonstop DCA-DEN service for quite some time now, and I am glad to see UA finally being able to do the same. I do not know the exact reasoning for limiting airlines to the perimiter out of DCA, whether political or practical, but the 757, A320, A319, and 737NG should be able to go transcon from DCA no problem.
InnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2483 times:
DCA is much more convenient for the business/institutional traveler. Since there is such a commuter corridor along the east coast, they wanted to make DCA more specifically available for those types of travlers. If they went to IAD, it would be less worth it for those people to fly in the first place.
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F9Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2271 times:
The perimeter restriction around DCA is 1500 nm. This is just far enough to take in MIA, MSP, STL, MCI, DFW and IAH. There are also slot and time restrictions to regulate noise. You also have the restricted airspace above the White House making approaches rather tricky. There are also noise abatement procedures for the residents of Arlington and Alexandria in Virginia as well as parts of the District of Columbia and Maryland.
I think we owe a lot to Senator McCain for helping relax the perimeter restrictions. After all, how do you think PHX got those non-stops?
F9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2210 times:
Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the approach traffic still comes straight over the Lincoln Memorial? I was there in '02 and it was the coolest thing at night - you would say this haze on the roofline, then a roar and a plane would come soaring over.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9170 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2162 times:
F9Fan, the DCA perimeter is 1250miles. You might be confusing it with the LGA perimeter, which is 1500 miles (no perimeter extensions, except for on Saturdays). All those destinations are within 1250 miles. DFW is close, but just under.
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Ord From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1371 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2005 times:
"UAL is indeed playing follow the leader!"
This is hardly true. United applied for the DEN-DCA slots the first go-around many years ago, but Frontier got the slots because the preference was to give them to smaller carriers (i.e. Frontier, America West, Midwest, etc.).
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
Back to the perimiter thing...
The commuter traffic at DCA is great, but there is probably already that much or more commuter traffic at IAD. The Washington metropolitan area is now more than large enough to support both airports without the perimiter around DCA, and it would be good for compitition if the perimiter were removed. The exemtion slots are a move in the right direction, and I am glad to see them.