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Turkish Talks To Airbus/Boeing On Planes  
User currently offlineNorthernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4437 times:

Does anybody employed at TK know more about this news?
Which aircraft types are we exactly talking about?

Turkish Airlines talks to Boeing, Airbus on planes
Reuters, 05.21.04

ISTANBUL, May 21 (Reuters) - Turkey's national carrier Turkish Airlines (THY) IS> said on Friday it was in talks with U.S. aircraft maker Boeing (nyse: BA - news - people) and Europe's Airbus on the purchase or rental of new aircraft.

THY general manager Abdurrahman Gundogdu told reporters 12 or 13 rented planes would enter the fleet in June. The state-run airline, slated for privatisation, said late last year it would acquire 19 new aircraft.


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User currently offlineQm001 From Portugal, joined Mar 2004, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

I am not a TK expert, but if i remember correctly from an artical I read last year, they were looking for 3-4 more longhaul aircraft to operate to the US, Canada and ?Brasil?. The rest were all short to medium haul aircraft.

Best regards,

QM001 (167 Air Malawi)



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User currently offlineEverettWA From Turkey, joined Sep 1999, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

More 737-800s and 3-4 A330s were rumored recently... They need something to replace the 310s with. Those they have are barely enough to fly to DEL etc. I think they intend to fly to YYZ, BOM, and increase services to DEL, not possible with the amount of planesx they have now... Brazil is totally news to me, I really doubt it. Even if it does happen, it'll be no more than twice a week. Can a 343 fly IST-GIG/GRU??

User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4207 times:

Which European routes will be considered?

Heard rumours about a Istanbul-Oslo route earlier this year!!



User currently offlineNorthernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

EverettWA,

I just found on the Airbus site www.eads.com the next info regarding the range of the A340-300:

Range (max. pax) 7 200 (7 400) nm / 13 350 (13 700) km
nm = nautical miles

Took a look in 1A (Amadeus CRS system):
IST to GIG = 8101 nm
IST to GRU = 8073 nm

Hopefully this answers your question regarding the range  Smile


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4161 times:


I expect TK to use 738s on short-midium haul routes and Airbuses A330/A340 on midium-long haul routes...


User currently offlineNorthernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

EverettWA,

Here are the complete range details of the A330 / A340 family:

The distance between Istanbul and Rio/Sao Paulo is:
IST to GIG = 8101 nm
IST to GRU = 8073 nm

A330-200:
Range (max. pax) 6 450 (6 650)nm / 11 950 (12 350)km

A330-300:
Range (max. pax) 5 600 nm / 10 400 km

A340-200:
Range (max. pax) 8 000 nm / 14 800 km

A340-300:
Range (max. pax) 7 200 (7 400) nm / 13 350 (13 700) km

A340-500:
Range (max. pax) 8 650 nm / 16 050 km

A340-600:
Range (max. pax) 7 500 nm / 13 900 km






User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4052 times:


TK does not fly to Casablanca.They could stop over the North African capital on the route to South America !!!


User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

For sure at least 02 Airbus A340-300 will be in order.

Cheers
N503JB



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User currently offlineTK001 From Turkey, joined May 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

Hello to all,

Couple of days ago, since the RJ's grounded, Turkish Airlines announced that the company will lease 5 A-320's and 2 A-321's for the coming summer season.

Also, TK is planning to have at least 100 aircraft in two years. Cities like Toronto, Washington, Lagos, Oslo, Casablanca, Bombay, Johannesburg, Cape Town are the potential destinations THY want to fly in the near future.

Regards,
TK001


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3768 times:

TK001,

That is a surprise. TK has never operated A320 family type aircraft.

Weren't the A310s sold to Air Mahan/Iran Air a couple of years ago? How come they stayed with the airline?


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

According to FI, TK have 15 738 still on option, so i guess that means a Beoing order for short-haul aircraft will simply be conversion of options.


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User currently offlineTurkishSky From Turkey, joined Mar 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

OD720.... it is wrong.

THY operated A320s in the past just like they are gonna employ them temporarily this summer on wet lease. I think those aircraft came from Aer Lingus.

Yes, a number of sold to Mahan and Iran Air but there are still 4 of them in the fleet.



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User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3660 times:

How bout THY joining an alliance this summer??????? I have heard good things about them, and I always see their aircraft pop up in the oddest of airports that I would never expect them to fly to (like Shanghai and Singapore)


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User currently offlineNorthernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

Hello from the northernmost capital in the world - Reykjavík -
Yes, due to internet we also constantly are in touch with the airline world news  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Here is some follow-up news regarding my posted thread.

Friday, May 21 2004 @ 01:44 PM Central Daylight Time

Turkish Airlines is in talks with U.S. aircraft maker Boeing and Europe's Airbus on the purchase or rental of new planes, the national flag carrier said.

THY general manager Abdurrahman Gundogdu said he expected the talks to be completed by the end of the year. He told reporters that 12 or 13 rented aircraft would enter the fleet in June in place of 11 RJ type planes which have been temporarily withdrawn from the fleet for maintenance. "We have signed contracts on 12-13 planes. These will be put to use at the end of May or in June," Gundogdu said at a signing ceremony in Istanbul.

The number of planes in the THY fleet fell to 53-54 planes as a result of the suspension of the 11 BAE Systems (BA) regional jets. "This figure will rise to 65 in June. Our fleet will rise further this year to 67-68 (planes)," he said.

The state-run airline, slated for privatisation, said late last year it would acquire 19 new aircraft.




User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

THY will be leasing 6 ex Swissair A319/A320s for delivery starting June to help offset the drop in capacity as a result of the grounding of its 11 RJ75/100 fleet.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5873 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Well, looks like they'll go either A340-500 to do the Brazil flights OR 777-2LR/3ER.

Will the 777-3ER do the GIG run? I cannot remember the range.

Also, what happened to the Avros? Some problem?

R


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

777-300ER's range is 7700nm's

I doubt TK will get a 772LR, that doesnt do commonality any favours


User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

That is a surprise. TK has never operated A320 family type aircraft.

OD720, that's not correct. Have a look:


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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

TurkishSky and Unique,

I didn't know it, thanks for your remarks.

Regards.


User currently offlineTurkishSky From Turkey, joined Mar 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

I always see their aircraft pop up in the oddest of airports that I would never expect them to fly to (like Shanghai and Singapore)

There has been an airlink between IST and SIN by SQ and TK for nearly 20 years. SIN is actually the first long haul destination for TK (even before JFK). There is a big leisure and business traffic between the two destination. You should also keep in mind that there is some size of Turkish population in Australia. That's why THY & Qantas have had this special agreement thru SIN for many years.

Shanghai is relatively new destination for THY but it has been so popular (mainly business traffic) that THY wants to fly daily.

What was odd for TK was CGK which was part of the network for a few months few years ago. But it was purely political....

I do regret the JNB & CPT service has been suspended. They are planning to start again but here comes the shortage of long haul aircraft again.

There are few other long haul destinations THY dropped quietly (MIA, KUL and recently KIX). I do hope to see them back to these destinations again.




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User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

THY likely operate direct flight (3 flights weekly) to HKG at the end of 2004 instead of IST-BKK-HKG. Becasue of THY really short of the long hual aircraft, that's the reason we soonest will see them order at least 02 A340-300.

Recently, THY being co-operate with Cargolax HKG-IST cargo flight since 04 months ago, I am wondering they will order cargo aircraft????

N503JB




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User currently offlineTK001 From Turkey, joined May 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

Personally, I do not believe that THY will fly in to Brazil yet. I do not see them filling the plane. There is not much a business and tourism link between two countries.



User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

TO: TK001

I agree with your personal opinions.

N503JB



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