Northernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1 Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4244 times:
Just picked this one up from the internet...
So it's a fact!
Source: Russian Novosti Press Agency.
Just wondered what your reactions are to this thread, and if you see SKYTEAM now emerging as an alliance to watch out for as KL, NW, CO and others will join soon too?
MOSCOW, May 21 (RIA Novosti) - Aeroflot is going to join the SkyTeam international alliance founded by Air France and Delta Airlines (USA) in 2000.
The official agreement on the accession to the alliance was achieved on Monday, May 24, an Aeroflot spokesperson said.
"The accession to the alliance implies the unification of sales, booking and route systems," she added.
The SkyTeam alliance includes AeroMexico, Alitalia, CSA Czech Airlines, Korean Air (South Korea) and KLM (Netherlands).
SkyTeam offers about 8,200 daily flights to 512 destinations all over the world. The alliance handles 228 million passengers annually.
Russian passengers are expected to gain by Aeroflot's joining the SkyTeam alliance. Now the main Russian carrier has to meet international security and service standards. On the other hand, Aeroflot will have to raise ticket prices by $30-$40 for the same reasons.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9413 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4116 times:
When looking at the US connection possibilities (DL/CO/NW), I think SkyTeam is definately an alliance we have to watch out for. I wonder if the US regulatory authorities (such as the DoT) will allow DL/CO/NW to join forces (through a much closer codeshare agreement as mentioned in the past).
Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2974 posts, RR: 29 Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3549 times:
Can anyone please provide a link to the article, because I've searched 3 Russian newspapers and Aeroflot Company News and still didn't find this info anywhere. Well anyways, if this actually does become a reality then this will be absolutely amazing!! Aeroflot has a lot of airline partners which include:
SZA Czech Airlines
So joining SkyTeam will be great! Can't wait to hear more news about this.
SQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1063 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3528 times:
Per the post on why Star Alliance will always go strong, Aeroflot from what I hear has terrible service (although
that may be changing). However I am just in love with Aeroflot's new livery and think it looks absolutely beautiful on their A320's and A319's.
MAS in Sky would definately make MAS one of the "top airlines" in terms of service and reliability in Skyteam, I'd be ecstatic if they joined.
Tu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3490 times:
Well, as great as it sounds, it is still a pain in the a** as everyone entering Russia needs a visa as do Russian citizens entering foreign countries................really a leftover form the Soviet days. Red tape really sucks!!!!!
Northernlights From Iceland, joined May 2004, 87 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3415 times:
I found the "breaking news" on the site of Novosti www.ria-novosti.ru
But I think some employee there made a mistake, as you can see in my first message, they were supposed to release this press article first on Monday 24 May...
(quote) "The official agreement on the accession to the alliance was achieved on Monday, May 24, an Aeroflot spokesperson said." (unquote)
So by accident the article leaked out to the internet. They now have taken away the article from their site, but I found proof of the authencity of the article on the Pravda website, see next link:
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5532 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3240 times:
Aeroflot777:What's the relevance between airline's non-alliance partners and its alliance membership? Every airline has a network of bilateral codeshare partnerships, so what are you trying to say?
And by the way, it's CSA Czech Airlines not SZA...
TU154M - Apparently GWB took a lesson from that and turned everyone entering the US to a presumed criminal, who needs to be fingerprinted
FLYSSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7353 posts, RR: 58 Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3152 times:
Most of the people talking about Aeroflot on this forum NEVER flew the airline... just repeating over and over what they heard from" the-best-friend-of-the-sister-in-law-of-the-neighbour-of-their-uncle"...
The fact is that Aeroflot today is an excellent airline, with standards of security and service on board equivalent and often superior to some well know western/US airlines.
SU in SkyTeam is an EXCELLENT news for ALL the SkyTeam partners !
Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2974 posts, RR: 29 Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2977 times:
The list of partners I mentioned above, I copied and pasted from Aeroflot's website, so they are the one who made the mistake. I sent them an email about it.
As to your first comment, there is no relevance. All I'm saying is Aeroflot is doing great by getting all those partners, and that joining an alliance is an even better step for them. It's as simple as that!
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7436 posts, RR: 44 Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2897 times:
it is still a pain in the a** as everyone entering Russia needs a visa as do Russian citizens entering foreign countries................really a leftover form the Soviet days. Red tape really sucks!!!!!
Tu154m, it is more a pain in the ass that Mexicans entering the U.S. need a visa (whereas Mexico imposes the visa requirement to citizens from few countries). And now it's not just the visa anymore, but the fingerprinting too. I have only been to the U.S. once since the fingerprinting thing started and it was strictly business, whereas I used to visit the U.S. for pleasure four times a year or more. I don't see myself visiting the U.S. for leisure purposes anymore for a while, I rather spend my pesos shopping in Madrid or Buenos Aires rather than in New York or Houston. In any case, communist past is not the only reason why visa requirements exist all over the world.
Back to the topic at hand, I have read here that SU has improved a lot in the past years so their entrance to SkyTeam should be great for the other SkyTeam members and for SU and Russia. Besides, as Russia continues expanding, air traffic will increase so I think the entrance of SU it is a victory for SkyTeam.
About the comments on the regions that SkyTeam needs to cover in order to achieve truly global presence, I think MH will join soon and SkyTeam will have better coverage of Australia and New Zealand thanks to the numerous MH flights from KUL; I really look forward to that. As for South America, I would love to see JJ join SkyTeam... hopefully AF can convince JJ to join; if not, AR would be okay.
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2832 times:
Yeah, SkyTeam needs to have some new members in the SE Asia/South American regions. I think that AV would be a good choice for SkyTeam in the South America, Copa too would be good. In SE Asia, MH is the obvious choice.
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5532 posts, RR: 20 Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2860 times:
Can anyone with more "insider info" confirm rumors, that Aeroflot joining ST was pretty much political decision and that Air France was the one pushing most for this deal while DL, OK and others were not too excited about the whole idea. SkyTeam supposedly made heavy concessions to SU that STAR, who was also considering SU, was not willing to make. For example SU will be allowed to keep Russian hardware in the future.