FLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3194 times:
The reason why is that it just wasn't selling in the numbers required to make it viable any more. Also, to some extent it would have competed with the 7E7, so with orders barely trickling in, Boeing decided to end production.
I agree that it's sad, the 757 is a great aircraft.
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3065 times:
First of all, the 757 market has been beed from below with the A321 and 738/739 seating only marginally fewer passengers. Since most airlines that require new 180-200 seat aircraft already fly the 737 or A320, why introduce a completely new aircraft to their fleets? Secondly, the airliner market has been terrible for a few years now, and airlines are looking to smaller aircraft to provide higher frquencies instead of larger aircraft to increase capacity with the same frequency.
The bright side of the coin is that the 757 has much better airfield performance than either the 739 or A321, so used 757s will probably sell like hotcakes in the not too distant future (i.e. the rumor about HP buying ex-National 757s). These lovely birds will be flying for quite some time to come since they still have excellent economics and meet stage 4 noise standards.
Vorticity From United States of America, joined May 2004, 337 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
Aviation Partners Boeing has signed up with Continental to certify and place winglets on CO's 757's. Once certified other carriers will have the opportunity to add the winglets to their 757's, which should improve their performance, and extend their usefulness as used aircraft through the years. Unfortunately, the demand wasn't there to keep the line in production.
Boeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2806 times:
I still don't understand to this day the move by Boeing to kill the 757. No orders? Bull. Hell, they only have orders for 5 777LR's and yet they are continuing with that.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2720 times:
I still don't understand to this day the move by Boeing to kill the 757. No orders? Bull. Hell, they only have orders for 5 777LR's and yet they are continuing with that.
There's a difference.
One is a new airframe with a bright future, being built on a hot line that builds other fast selling types.
The other is a 20 year old airframe being squeezed from both above and below, that shares no common production line.
Frugalqxnwa From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 565 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (9 years 16 hours ago) and read 2615 times:
Boeing nut,
To add to what Gigneil already said, the 777LR is a dirivative of the 777, and the 777 line is doing very well. The 757 was an entire airframe program. The 777LRs can be weaseled onto the 777 production line, while the 757 is a production line all by itself.
123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 739 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2386 times:
The question asks, the future of the 757: One of them seems, to fly for LB! That would be great because it would displace the good and reknown, but really old 727's.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2151 times:
I doubt they'll sell more than 50 because it' a niche' aircraft.
First of all, Boeing has two trump cards with the 772LR that could easily increase that airframe's sales.... should the market dictate.
But anywho, and more importanly... it doesnt really matter how many of the 772LRs are sold post launch, because as has been said earlier, it costs Boeing virtually nothing to continue offering them as they're built on the same line as other 777 types.
Boeing however, could close a lagging porduction line, and then take a more than hundred-million dollarwriteoff by ending 757 production. Plain and simple.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7171 posts, RR: 45 Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Boeing is going to launch a longer-range version of the 739, which project is currently named 739X or something like that. This would be, in my opinion, the replacement of the 752.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2023 times:
The launch is still not 100% certain, and while the aircraft would most likely prove an adequate counterpart in the transcon market, it will not be a perfect replacement for the 752's performance.
Dreamcraft From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Nov 2003, 32 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1994 times:
The 757 is one of my favourite a/c, both to fly and to look at while spotting. AA recently replaced it's 738 service to Antigua with 752's much to my delight. It's performance is loads better!!!
It's a pity economics should dictate the production demise of this beautiful bird!
Ultrapig From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1703 times:
I've asked this before but no one seems to know the answer-when I enter a 757 it seems to be bigger than a 737-is this an illuision. I know the width are the same. Is the 757 fuselage more oblong and thus higher-or is it that it sits higher off the ground?
Vorticity From United States of America, joined May 2004, 337 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
I've asked this before but no one seems to know the answer-when I enter a 757 it seems to be bigger than a 737-is this an illuision. I know the width are the same. Is the 757 fuselage more oblong and thus higher-or is it that it sits higher off the ground?
757 Interior Cabin Width: 3.5m
Body Exterior Width: 3.7m
737 Interior Cabin Width: 3.4m
Body Exterior Width: 3.7m
Thermodynamics and english units don't mix...
25 7E72004: Northwest will fly theirs for at least another 50 years
26 Ultrapig: but how about the height of the cabin
27 Boeing nut: Care to elaborate? Not really, seeing as I've done it ten thousand and one times here before. Thanks anyway.
28 Bragi: What aircraft could serve the same routes as the B757? That is, carry approx. 200 people 3800 NM? The 737 family lacks the range and the A330 is too b
29 Boeing nut: Nutshell: freighter, superMTOW 772ER I think you meant one other trump card. The 772LR is nothimg more than a "superMTOW 772ER".
30 7E72004: Doesn't NW have the oldest fleet in the US airline list?
32 Cun757: Its sad to see that the must beautiful plane its gone...
33 EAL757: Northwest will fly theirs for at least another 50 years Darn right, and they should. Their DC-9's are reliable and the 75 has always been a reliable p
34 ConcordeBoy: I think you meant one other trump card. I think you missed the italicized comma...