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Where Are Swiss`A340 HB-JMH And JMI?  
User currently offlineNewSwissair From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 282 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Swiss has now 7 A340 in its fleet. 2 additional ones should be delivered already, but I haven`t seen one yet.

I will miss the MD-11, as it is my favorite aircraft. I hope the A340 won`t be delivered and Swiss will keep the 3 MD-11, they have at the moment.

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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

They are in TLS, I think JMH will be delivered very soon.

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3685 times:

As far as I remember, the last 2 A343 should be delivered May/June. By that date, the MD-11 will be withdrawn from the fleet. Nice looking birds, but too inefficient.

As a frequent ZRH spotter, I'm glad, they've chosen the A343  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Gerardo



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3606 times:

According to jp airline-fleets (03/04 edition), HB-JMH and HB-JMI will be delivered in a two-class configuration: C48 Y212. Is that true? And if it's true, which routes will get the two-class A340?

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3591 times:

Gerardo
Are you sure, that by end of JUN, LX will have withdrawn it's M11? In the CRS, the ORD flight is loaded at least till SEP04 opt with M11. Could it be a mistake or are there any delays in the 343 delivery?



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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Ndebele:
When LX still had 13 A343 on order it was planned that 7 come in 3-class config and the remaining 6 in 2-class config. To my knowledge the idea has been dropped since only 9 A343 will join the fleet as of now.

Swissgabe:
I am also surprised to now see the MD11 flying ORD over the summerschedule. I don´t believe there is a delay in the A343 deliveries. But there was the idea of reconfiguring the A332 with the new interior (at least the new C-class) and they might continue to use the MD11 while one after the other gets rebuild (Just an idea).

KA.



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User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Gabe: that was at least reported not so long ago by people, whoe are more than close to this business. But, the last day of operations of the last LX MD-11 is indeed a bit of a mistery. It's well possible, that 2 MD-11 will still be operated after June, as for example for charter flights to Portugal during Euro 2004.

Anyway, the last 2 A343 are due in June. I didn't hear of any delay so far.

Gerardo



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

txs Ka and Gerardo ...

hope the M11 will stay some extra days in ZRH ...



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User currently offlineSupersonic78 From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 146 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

I guess HB-JMH already joined the fleet... and HB-JMI will follow in june...
but as far as i am informed they will keep one MD-11 til end of 2004 !


User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

I guess HB-JMH already joined the fleet...

No, it's planned to be delivered from TLS after cabin reconfiguration by Sogerma Toulouse. Date not yet known.

HB-JMI is planned to be delivered on 27th May. Of course subject to changes...


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24951 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Are these brand new, or second hand?


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User currently offlineKa From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 661 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

GKirk:
They are brand new.

KA.



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User currently offlineSupersonic78 From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 146 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

you are right unique, just noticed at work that HB-JMH is still missing....

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4931 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3047 times:
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Well, HB-JMH is now finally in ZRH - landed from TLS at 1422 local today (30 May)

User currently offlineChrisZRH From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 423 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

The last MD-11 flying will be HB-IWE, Whiskey End as we call her! Last flight 31. October, and she will leave ZRH in December

chris



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4931 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2734 times:
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Actually, I've been wondering how exactly LX is trying to accomplish its current list of A343 cities and schedules with only 9 of the type...

ZRH-BKK/SIN - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-HKG - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-NRT - requires 1 a/c
ZRH-JNB - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-GRU - requires 2 a/c
ZRH-LAX - requires 1 a/c

That's already 1 more than they have! All these destinations above require the A343 and cannot be substituted with the A332 due to range issues. I guess that's why they're keeping the M11 until the start of the winter schedule and presumably one or some of these routes get reduced frequencies in order to squeeze all of them in (my bet is that LAX either gets the axe or is reduced)


User currently offlineFLYtoEGCC From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 947 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Sorry for getting slightly off-topic here... Where are the MD-11s going after Swiss withdraws them? Are they going straight into storage or has another carrier snapped them up?

Please don't tell me they're going to be scrapped...  Sad



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User currently offlineEmbraer145 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

HB-JMH was officially delivered to Swiss at 28 April 2004. But it is possible that the aircraft was still at TLS for a couple of weeks for interior outfitting or other checks. Air France and Iberia has also a couple of aircraft in stroage after the delivery

Rgds Aart



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User currently offlineAviationMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

Panamair:

Swiss has reduced the frequencies and adjusted them to seasonal demand.

ZRH-BKK/SIN (Summer: 6x/w Winter: daily)
ZRH-HKG (S: daily W: 6x/w)
ZRH-NRT (S: 6x/w W: 5x/w)
ZRH-JNB (S: 6x/w W: daily)
ZRH-GRU (5x/w year round)
ZRH-LAX (S: 5x/w W: 6x/w)



User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

HB-JMH is in Hong Kong today, June 3rd.

User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

N754pr, ZRH-HKG-ZRH is the 1st commercial service for HB-JMH! Lucky you...

User currently offlineJJMNGR From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Dear Panamair,

It is possible to change A343 for A332 on a route to GRU on direct service. TAM uses its A332 to Europe on direct service.

Cheers,


User currently offlineSpeedbird747 From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

JJMNGR,

LX A332 have no crew rest area. Therefore they cannot be operated on very long routes. It's not a range issue. Although the A343 has more range than the A332.


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