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Amsterdam - New York. Some Questions  
User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3094 times:

Im planning a trip to New York with my brother. We are both big fans of aviation and We wonder what kind of carrier you would choose on Amsterdam - New york. and why?

At the moment we have our minds set on KLM and Boeing 777.
What about any american carriers, I have no experience from flying an american carrier.


Thanks

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User currently offlineBusinessBoy From Norway, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

I would go with Continental Airlines.
They offer very good service! Though they fly into EWR, but thats no problem...
But KLM is a good choice though......



LOVE CONTINENTAL AIRLINES & LOVE BRITISH AIRWAYS
User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3023 times:

BA via LHR!

Two nice flights on the A319/A320/B752 between AMS and LHR (a very nice airport for spotting, you can easily make a connection with about 5h lay-over in LHR for some spotting).

Between LHR and JFK, you can take a B772 on one sector and a B744 on the other sector.

I don't know whether EWR is more convenient than JFK for you... you can always take a B772 to EWR and return on a B744 from JFK.

Hope to read a trip report  Big grin

Frederic


User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2981 times:

You can also fly SQ from AMS-EWR on a 744, or you may be able to get a real good price on Biman out of BRU-JFK on a DC-10.


Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineWearyBizTrvlr From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2931 times:

My transatlantic experience is mostly C-class, so I'm not sure how relevant this will be...  Smile If you fly before the end of June, you can take the SQ flight to EWR (my favorite AMS-NYC flight). I haven't flown the new KLM 777's yet, but they're supposed to be very nice, and I'll give those a shot soon. I've flown both CO and DL too, which were better than KLM's pre-777 WBC. Service was generally somewhat better than KLM, and food seemed a tad better too, but there was no huge difference. There's also the question whether you have a preference for an airport in NY. I like EWR better than JFK, but opinions are divided on this. JFK it no longer the dump it used to be...

If you want a direct flight, I think your best bet is KLM 777's. All new aircraft, with IFE and such. No hassle with connecting flights (unless you like that sort of thing  Smile).



Trudging around the world from AMS
User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2902 times:

I would go for SQ. Have you ever seen those hot Indo-flight attendants?  Big thumbs up
(AMS - EWR)

FJWH



FlightS in the next 3 months: MSP, PHX, MEM, NCE, TFS, BCN. All round trips from AMS
User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2901 times:

As a KLM agent and a non-rev passenger I flew the Amsterdam New York Area route (EWR or JFK) many times when I could not get a flight directly to my home on the Dutch island Aruba. After that I continued on with either CO, AA or DL to Aruba.
I flew Delta Airlines 767 AMS-JFK,

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Photo © Marlo Plate - IBERIAN SPOTTERS


KLM 777 AMS-JFK,

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Photo © Frans Zwart - Dutch Ops


KLM 767 AMS-EWR,

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and Continental 777 AMS-EWR.

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Photo © Chris Sharps



And I also flew AMS-EWR on Singapore Airlines, but that was a full paid ticket. (It was a special fare of 249,- Euros  Big thumbs up) Couldn't pass that one up! Especially to see those Singapore girls!

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Let us know what you decided!

[Edited 2004-05-23 14:05:11]


The World Is A Book And Those Who Do Not Travel Read Only A Page
User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2884 times:


"Especially to see those Singapore girls!"

Haaa, what did I said  Big thumbs up

FJWH  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



FlightS in the next 3 months: MSP, PHX, MEM, NCE, TFS, BCN. All round trips from AMS
User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2848 times:

Thank you all for interesting opinions.
Is EWR far away from downtown New York?

I think we'll go for either KLM 777 or Continental unless we can get a good fare on BA via Heathrow.


User currently offlineScf158 From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 2834 times:

I think your best bet is to go CO... its probably the best, and the cheapest of the lot, excluding SQ which i know nothing about.

User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

EWR is not very far from Downtown. Especially now that you can take the Newark AirTrain to Penn Station. Go with Singapore! Unless you live in Asia you really don't get to fly them much...which is a shame!!

AA787



ET In NYC
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Everyone's got their own airline to upsh..it's funny!
KLM is very good.
He asked about AMERICAN CARRIERS?
Since when is BA or SQ American.
Delta does to JFK as does Continental.
I have no experience with either; but I've heard bad things about Delta; but I know that KLM is superb
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

If it's a US carrier you're after, IMHO, you should fly Continental. (777)

It's easier to get into NYC from EWR by public transport anyway, so no probs there.

If you're not fussed if the airline is American, then yes, SQ all the way. You're original choice is fine too though: I always have held KLM in high regard.


User currently offlineLtbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 23 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

You may want to travel to EWR as this airport has probably the largest variety of aircraft of NYC area airports. EWR and JFK are about the same cost and distance from mid-town Manhattan by train services.
Check with the airlines or travel agents for hotel/flight packages as hotel prices in NYC are quite expensive. I would make hotel arrangement before you arrive as we do not have in the US the assistance for last minute hotel arrangements from the tourist authorites here. You may be able to stay in hotels in NJ, near NYC, only a 25 minute bus ride away, which offer far more reasonable prices than NYC. I live near NYC, and found many non-US travelers using the NJ hotels along my bus route. If you are under 26, maybe you could take advantage of 'student' fares like with STA.
Be careful as to the dates you want to travel. I would go sooner, in June, rather than in July, August and to mid-September. July and August can be very hot and humid in the NYC area. Do not even consider the last week or so of August into the first week of September due to the Republican Party (President Bush's party) convention in NYC and the attendent securty nightmare it is going to cause as well as no hotels available.
Do you plan to travel to other places in the USA or only in NYC? As not a US national, then you may be able to get special fares for travel within the USA.
Hope you enjoy yourselves when you are here in the USA.


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

I also must say that to get to Manhattan by public transportation is easier from EWR.

GT



The World Is A Book And Those Who Do Not Travel Read Only A Page
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

Priceline is great; and I believeyou can give an American address of a friend for it; since they dont' verify international CC addresses.
-Mr. X



What now?
User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

How are KLM's 767's from EWR? I am taking KL from EWR to AMS connecting to an NW DC-10 to BOM!

This will be my first time onboard KL's 767's and i think my first time on a 767.



Leo/ORD -- Groetjes uit de VS! -- Heeft u laatst nog met KLM gevlogen?
User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

Tank you all, once again
Big thanks to Ltbewr for the information.

We might go down to New Orleans for a couple of days.
Do Jetblue fly new york - New orleans. Would love to fly them.


User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16856 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

EWR and JFK are both 16 miles from Mid-town Manhattan, EWR's closer to Lower Manhattan (Greenwich Village, Tri-Beca, Soho, Wall Street, World Trade Center etc.).

I would fly into one airport and out the other, than you get to see two airports and can decide which works best for you for future trips.

With regards to SQ's EWR-AMS flight, SQ is launching nonstop EWR-Singapore (longest nonstop in the World!) this Summer with the A340-500. That will mean the end of their one stop flight from EWR-SIN via AMS with the 747-400, the JFK flight will continue to stop in AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

I think we'll go for Continental.
We both wanna fly a 777 and an american carrier could be fun.


User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

flew both Air France and KLM into AMS. Really enjoyed those tall Nordic flight attendants on KLM, they took very good care of me on KLM. I'd go with 777 or 747 on KLM. Cheers.

User currently offlineTargowski From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

i would fly into EWR. if you are like me, and like trains/subsways/good public transportation as much as you like avaition, then you should explore the new skytrain out of EWR, which makes it much better than JFK for PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION hookups into manhattan.

i am not a new yorker, so correct me if i am wrong on that point, but i am just repeating some common themes about EWR vs JFK that appears on a.net

how are price differences between CO, SQ and KLM?



User currently offlineKL642 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

I don't think you'd go wrong with KL, CO or SQ. If it was me I would have to go with whoever had the lowest airfare. Try to stay away from those 767's. There isn't much legroom if you are tall.

User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

SQ, catch it while you can because it will soon be goooooooooone when non stop SIN-EWR takes over.


SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

AA777jr,

Yup, KLM definitely excel in the "tall, leggy blonde" stakes.. oh, how I miss Holland sometimes.. (well, often actually  Wink/being sarcastic )


25 Zweed : Tried to see the prices on the Continental website. I June I got prizes on 750 $ and in October I got over 1000 $. Did it twixe, so Im sure I didnt do
26 Eric : If you book through www.nl.lastminute.com you can get a ticket for €440 incl. taxes r/t (BA through LHR)! That gives you the option of flying into E
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