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EWR-SFO On CO- 737NG Or 757?  
User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Posted (10 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 3709 times:

My friend and I are going to SFO this coming July. We're flying out of SYR, and have a choice of going through either CLE or EWR. Newark is at the top, because I always go through CLE, and EWR is further away from SFO, which means a longer flight  Big grin. Also, the connections in CLE suck- they're only 30-something minutes. In EWR, I'll get at least an hour and a half, which is good. But, the real problem is which aircraft should I take?

All flights from EWR to SFO on 13.July.2004 are all 737NGs, with all but one being a 737-700, and the others 737-800s. There is but one exception- Flight 41 is the only 757 flight that day (It's a 757-200). I've been on a B738, and that's all  Sad. So, either a B73G or B752.


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In regards to IFE (I don't care all that much, but it's a six-hour flight, so I may want something, even if it's just a crappy TV show Big grin), which has the better system? I know that CO doesn't have PTVs on the narrowbodies. I also know that the 737NGs have those drop-down screens (LCDs?) every 3 rows in economy, and I don't know if their 757s have those too. I want to try the 757 very badly, but if the 737 is more comfortable in regards to IFE and anything else, I'd like to know.

Either way, I'm sure that there's a boatload of people (or should I say planeload  Big grin) here that have flown the route on both, or at least one, of the above aircraft. All comments/advice/etc., are welcome. Thanks to all that reply  Smile!

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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 3678 times:

SFO to EWR to BXH. BXH to EWR to SFO. A 757. Daily. Continental.


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User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 772 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 3649 times:

I'll go against popular opinion and say 737. The IFE is via drop down LCD screens, the 757-200's use the old CRT's and they often look crappy. Also, the 737 seems to use a more advanced system, the 757 uses Hi-8 tapes while the 737 uses DVD's (pretty sure about that).

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2463 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 3626 times:

757's are easier to upgrade on, larger first class section, but if you are not CO Elite and will be staying in Coach I second Sean-SAN's opinion and would suggest the 737NG. The seats are more comfortable, the LCD screens are bigger, and the planes for the most part have nicer interiors.

Be sure to eat something on the ground at EWR during your layover, the meal on the transcons have declined to substandard levels and really isn't enough for the 5 1/2 hours you will be in the air. There's plenty of great places to eat at EWR, and your 90 minutes there will give you more than enough time to get something decent.


User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Actually, CO uses new LCD drop down screens on the 757 unlike AA, DL,or UA. If your flying first class, CO usually uses atleast one 757 in international BizFirst seats, so if your flying first, go w/ the 757. In coach, you can't go wrong, there pretty much the same interior wise.

[Edited 2004-05-25 02:46:41]


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User currently offlineBjg231 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

My vote's for the 737NG. The aircraft has comfy coach seats and the drop down lcd's aren't so bad (just a step down from a PTV).

I haven't flown a CO 757 in years, so I just remember the CRT's.

Like many airlines, look for an open bulkhead seat, as its essentially like economy plus at no charge.



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User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

What is CO's BusinessFirst layout in the 752?

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1065 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

I personally would go with the 757. The 757 is one of my favorite aircraft and as COEWR2587 said the IFE is the same as the 737's with the drop down LCD screens.
RJpieces,
There are 16 BusinessFirst seats on CO's Int'l configured 757's in a 2X2 layout.

[Edited 2004-05-25 03:10:03]

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

From where I sit, I would normally recommend the 757 flight, but after checking the loads of all the flights for that day, I would opt for one of the 738 flights. Flight 448, and 548 looking the best at the moment. I really like the 738 as an aircraft, everytime I come off one, I think to myself that I really like that plane

Jeremy


User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

The Bizfirst layout has less seats in first which is normally used for international and some transcon flights. They have the old first class seats used on widebody aircrafts. They have more legroom, more recline, and PTV's than normal domestic 757 first seats.


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I lean toward the 757. I like the 737NGs a lot, but a 757 is getting harder and harder to come by. And they're so athletic. Also, I, too, understand that Conti has upgraded to drop down lcds on the 752 fleet, though I haven't flown one.

R


User currently offlineCollegestud From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

I went to SFO last year. It was 757. I came back to EWR as 73G.

User currently offlineCAL From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 499 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Ok im a Continental Crew member so let me straiten some things out. First of all The 737NG's do not used DVD's. They also use tapes. The monitors on the 757-200 are drop down CRT'S except in BizFirst where you get your own personal LCD monitor. The new 757-300's have the same system and drop down LCD monitors like the 737NG's.
If your going for IFE go with the 737's if your going for the plane defiantly the 757.
Thanks



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User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2254 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Agree with CAL, I flew on a CO 752 (delivered in 1994) last November and they had CRTs in coach. I would go with a 752 just based on preference, cool planes, plus you are more likely to fly in a 737 in the future than a 757.

P.S. Flying on a CO 753 next week for the first time - can't wait!




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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Just restating facts, ships 101-141 (all 757-224) have the bulky drop-down CRT screens, which are slightly smaller than the LCD system on the 737NGs and 757-300s. They go inop far more often, but we went for the CRT on our later 752 deliveries for commonality even though LCD was an available option.

The internal designation is 75B for the BusinessFirst-configured ships, but I think you can still delineate them by their "752" code on electronic timetables and such as opposed to "757" for normal Domestic 757 and "753" for the -324 series.

Looking at the schedule, we have no 753 or widebody service in that market on that day, so Coach pitch will be the standard 31" (753 has 32" IIRC), and I personally would go for the 737, at least from a passenger's perspective. The 757 is a thriller on takeoff, but inflight I think the 737NG offers a nicer, more comfortable product and is probably best overall.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

I stand corrected on the LCD/CRT issue, thanks for the info!

I would still lean toward the 757, simply because it seems I can never find one to fly on. It's always MD-80s or 737s. I like both- but a 757 would be a nice change. AND, why not do what that one guy did- take the 757 out and the 737 back?

R


User currently offlineSturdy From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

The 757, although older is a very comfortable and enjoyable ride, especially the fantastic steep climbouts. I think no 737 or A.320/321 can compete in terms of solidity and sturdiness in the cruise, which makes a difference on a longish trip like EWR-SFO.
Flew EWR-SFO last year and was surprised that it took 7 hours (we had a headwind): that was longer than the previous leg of my trip which was transatlantic (DUB-EWR).


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2194 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3179 times:

When is your return flight?

Anyway, why not do both? Take the 737 out and the 757 on the return (or vice versa)?


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2693 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Artsyman-

How do you check loads? What website do you use?

All others- Thanks for all the replies  Smile! I think I'm going to go with the 757, but only if I can get a window seat, of course. Artsyman states that the only 757 flight that day has a high load, so thats a bummer  Sad. But on the other hand, my dates are flexible  Big grin. I do agree though, the B738 is quite a comfortable aircraft- have taken it every single time (ironic how that works, isn't it) to Florida to see my Dad, and I fly at least 6 times a year to see him. It's just that I always have the same itinerary (ERJ145 to CLE, 738 to MCO, vv.), and I'd like to try out the 757 before it goes out of production (just for the hell of it, to say they were still making the fine machines  Big thumbs up).


User currently offlineRC4050 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
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Have to put my vote in for The 737NG. Rode both on a trip to PBI 2 weeks ago and have to say the NG (900) was a better ride (IFE,general comfort).

User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

737 NG all the way in my opinion. See if you can take a 757 out and the other back or vice a versa.


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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3030 times:
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They are both great aircraft, but I do have to chime in on one thing:

All of the 737NGs have the "new" Continental seat- that is, the adjustable leather headrest. I think that the older seat is MUCH more comfortable, and from my experiences, many of the 757-200s still have the older seats (they have a floppy pillowish type thing).

In terms of seat comfort, go for the 757 and if you end up with a plane that has new seats, then at least your in for an awesome take off  Big grin

But like many others have said, try to snag that 757 out and a 738 on the way back... or, if you want to be creative, fly SYR-EWR-LAX and drive the Pacific Coast Highway and fly home from SFO. Then you can get a 767-200 to LAX from EWR  Big grin

In my opinion, I'd stay away from the 73G... Not a huge fan of those -700s.. Dont really know why.

Just my $0.02
JBLU


User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

JBLUA320-

757-200s are slowly being refitted with the "new" coach seats, with contoured tray table, articulating seat cushion, and adjustable headrests.

The older seats were good because they were so slim that they gave you a bit of extra legroom, but the new seats are cushier and the headrests are more comfortable when sleeping. The only downside is, of course, you lose just a little legroom since the seat itself is thicker.


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