Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 23461 posts, RR: 50 Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5377 times:
JAL will initially use its 777-300ERs on routes within Asia. As the airline builds up experience with the type, trans Pacific routings requiring 207 ETOPS will be included. Look for US West Coast flight about 1 year after the type enters service.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 746 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5324 times:
Could Seattle be on that list? That would be so awesome to get a NON-US carrier to fly on to Tokyo instead of Northwest's flight 7/8 and United's 875/876, and would mean no more flying to LAX or YVR to catch a better carrier like Air Canada, ANA, or Singapore. Plus, JAL just kicks butt.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7426 posts, RR: 43 Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4872 times:
Currently JL is flying 2x weekly a 743 to MEX via YVR (with traffic rights to/from YVR). While I am sure that that the stop in YVR contributes to the loads and yields of the flights, I am sure that a non-stop service between NRT and MEX would lure more Japanese, South Korean and Chinese flyers going to Mexico and Mexican flyers going to those countries. Does anybody know if the 773ER has the range to do NRT-MEX non-stop? And if so, does anybody think that JL would be interested in switching from the 743 to the 773 to MEX and dropping YVR? Thanks for the info.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7860 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4687 times:
I think you can forget about JL flying the 777-300ER to MEX. The reason is simple: the sheer altitude of MEX airport could severely limit the load westbound from MEX back to NRT, unless JL uses YVR as a fuel-only technical stop.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7426 posts, RR: 43 Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4522 times:
Thanks for the info guys. I realized a few minutes after making the post that the range of the 773ER would be compromised by MEX' altitude on the westbound flights. I guess ConcordeBoy is right... the alternative would be the 772LR (JL is not going to consider the A345 ever, right?).
Don From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4211 times:
JAL's all YVR and MEX flights will be upgraded to 744 from 743 from Oct 01. So I don't think that they will switch to 773 from 744 in a hurry as JAL MEX route qualification for pilots is a lengthy affair. 744 pilots had started their route qualification procedures back in March.
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 846 posts, RR: 51 Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
What makes you so sure about 345 never ever gonna join JAL??
The 772LR has virtual 99% systems commonality with the 773ER and 772ER (minus the engines) not to mention superior performance to boot.
U have the same shitty attitude to the 380!
Airbus has b-l-o-w-n it in Japan. ANA swapped their A32X for new-build 737NG, and Airbus market share is dwindeling past 15%. Threatening to sue Japanese industry over the 7E7 probably won't help either. ANA or JAL haven't come close to ordering the A380, and there are currently no indications that this will change.
Hope someday that JL returns to DFW, with ANY aircraft they wish
When JAL orders the 7E7-8/9, I'd expect them to open new destinations with the smaller aircraft.
Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 834 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3945 times:
I can see you speak for the japanese. Hopefully they can speak for themselfes cuz you are just too much for my stomach!
I know Boeing wanna rule the sky, but this is ridiculous.......
Peace, hopefully in near future!
JAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3923 times:
Solnabo, with all due respect...
The Japanese have no intention of ordering an Airbus product anytime soon. Japan gets massive shares of Boeing projects and it is more or less political suicide to not order a Boeing product. JAL and ANA are quasi-governmental organizations who seek to further Japanese interests.
Not to say the A380 or other Airbus products are inferior, but at this time they are not under consideration.