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Where Will The JAL 777-300ER's Be Flying Too?  
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

I'm hoping I can hitch a ride on that bad boy from New York?  Confused

40 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5965 times:

Yeah, Maybe if they want flying to JFK with B777-300ER. It would be perfect for thems.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25442 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

JAL will initially use its 777-300ERs on routes within Asia. As the airline builds up experience with the type, trans Pacific routings requiring 207 ETOPS will be included. Look for US West Coast flight about 1 year after the type enters service.




From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineCessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5854 times:

Could Seattle be on that list? That would be so awesome to get a NON-US carrier to fly on to Tokyo instead of Northwest's flight 7/8 and United's 875/876, and would mean no more flying to LAX or YVR to catch a better carrier like Air Canada, ANA, or Singapore. Plus, JAL just kicks butt.


Save the whales...for dinner!!!
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5844 times:

Watch with your butt about JL. It want to make more flights to LAX or SFO.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5650 times:

I have my doubts that JL will fly the 777-300ER to LAX or SFO. I think they would assign a 747-400 on the NRT to LAX or SFO route if an extra flight is necessary.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5402 times:

Currently JL is flying 2x weekly a 743 to MEX via YVR (with traffic rights to/from YVR). While I am sure that that the stop in YVR contributes to the loads and yields of the flights, I am sure that a non-stop service between NRT and MEX would lure more Japanese, South Korean and Chinese flyers going to Mexico and Mexican flyers going to those countries. Does anybody know if the 773ER has the range to do NRT-MEX non-stop? And if so, does anybody think that JL would be interested in switching from the 743 to the 773 to MEX and dropping YVR? Thanks for the info.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

I think you can forget about JL flying the 777-300ER to MEX. The reason is simple: the sheer altitude of MEX airport could severely limit the load westbound from MEX back to NRT, unless JL uses YVR as a fuel-only technical stop.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

unless JL uses YVR as a fuel-only technical stop

...which of course would be utterly pointless.

JL may someday consider the 772LR if it wants nonstop flights to MEX (or JNB for that matter, here's hoping  Big grin)


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7584 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Thanks for the info guys. I realized a few minutes after making the post that the range of the 773ER would be compromised by MEX' altitude on the westbound flights. I guess ConcordeBoy is right... the alternative would be the 772LR (JL is not going to consider the A345 ever, right?).


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

An A345 has less than a snowball's chance in hell of finding its way into the JL fleet

User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

Maybe they'll start BOSTON service with the 777-300ER.

 Smile












in my dreams maybe  Sad



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineSupersonic78 From Switzerland, joined May 2004, 146 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

As i just read they will serve ZRH with the 777  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

ZRH will be B777-200ER.

I think it will probably start with SIN and BKK.

Then possibly ORD and SFO.

or YVR..

KIX-LAX would be a good one also.

Anybody know the seating configuration yet? Then it would be easier to guess

TokyoNarita.



[Edited 2004-05-27 01:03:39]

[Edited 2004-05-27 01:07:29]

User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4783 times:

Hope someday that JL returns to DFW, with ANY aircraft they wish.

AA being the only airline to Tokyo is just not acceptable.




Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineDon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4741 times:

JAL's all YVR and MEX flights will be upgraded to 744 from 743 from Oct 01. So I don't think that they will switch to 773 from 744 in a hurry as JAL MEX route qualification for pilots is a lengthy affair. 744 pilots had started their route qualification procedures back in March.

User currently offlineTokyoNarita From Palau, joined Aug 2003, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4680 times:

yea you are right..thanks.

TokyoNarita


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4562 times:

Actually there were some rumors here awhile back that JAL had made a deal w/ a lounge operator at DFW to house their pax. I think though that JAL will return when D opens.

If this all happens I bet it's a 772, although it could be a 773 ER.

Just some food for thought.

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

What makes you so sure about 345 never ever gonna join JAL??

The 772LR has virtual 99% systems commonality with the 773ER and 772ER (minus the engines) not to mention superior performance to boot.

U have the same shitty attitude to the 380!

Airbus has b-l-o-w-n it in Japan. ANA swapped their A32X for new-build 737NG, and Airbus market share is dwindeling past 15%. Threatening to sue Japanese industry over the 7E7 probably won't help either. ANA or JAL haven't come close to ordering the A380, and there are currently no indications that this will change.

Hope someday that JL returns to DFW, with ANY aircraft they wish

When JAL orders the 7E7-8/9, I'd expect them to open new destinations with the smaller aircraft.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4475 times:

I can see you speak for the japanese. Hopefully they can speak for themselfes cuz you are just too much for my stomach!
I know Boeing wanna rule the sky, but this is ridiculous.......
Peace, hopefully in near future!

Michael//SE  Insane



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4453 times:

Solnabo, with all due respect...

The Japanese have no intention of ordering an Airbus product anytime soon. Japan gets massive shares of Boeing projects and it is more or less political suicide to not order a Boeing product. JAL and ANA are quasi-governmental organizations who seek to further Japanese interests.

Not to say the A380 or other Airbus products are inferior, but at this time they are not under consideration.


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4399 times:

I heard that one destination that is for sure is Mojave...

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 4349 times:

DEN??

Just wishful thinking, I guess  Sad



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

What makes you so sure about 345 never ever gonna join JAL??

Oh, I dunno... something about it being a complete and total oddball in their fleet, versus it's competitor who'd fit in with nigh perfect commonality and stronger performance?  Laugh out loud



U have the same shitty attitude to the 380!

Um, [from your warped perspective] pray tell: what "attitude" would that be?  Insane


User currently offlineCx340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 12 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

Oh, I dunno... something about it being a complete and total oddball in their fleet, versus it's competitor who'd fit in with nigh perfect commonality and stronger performance?

I agree with you that a 345 would be totally an oddball in JAL's fleet and the logical step would be to order 772LRs, but then again, it is also an oddball in SIA and they still got them. . .


25 Post contains images Supersonic78 : TokyoNarita: I just checked JAL's homepage... actually the 772ER is not to be found, are they ordered and to be delivered ? their 772 has only a range
26 Roberta : just out of interest how much does range deteriorate on a twin and a quad at a hot and high airport like MEX. PS in response to the above post the 772
27 Post contains images Supersonic78 : hmm, site doesn't seem to be updated, just read an article where they mention 772ER
28 Wolkenridder : I heared, from a friend working in the Sales Department of JAL's Madrid Offices, that there are rumours in JAL for on-line service to MAD. Can anyone
29 Post contains links DfwRevolution : just out of interest how much does range deteriorate on a twin and a quad at a hot and high airport like MEX. I can hook you up with the 777 data, but
30 Roberta : Given the superior performance of the 777 (relative to MD11 or A340) in just about every category, I imagine the 777 would match or exceed the perform
31 JAL777 : actually quads perform better under hot and high conditions not the A340
32 Roberta : actually quads perform better under hot and high conditions not the A340 ohh really, any evidence to back up your deeply profound statment.
33 Post contains images DfwRevolution : ohh really, any evidence to back up your deeply profound statment. Well it's not like Airbus allows anyone gaze upon a basic outline of its top secret
34 ConcordeBoy : but then again, it is also an oddball in SIA and they still got them Because at the time time they ordered it, it was the only available aircraft capa
35 Post contains links Roberta : "The 20 A340-600s are due for delivery from June 2007 and should be operated on the longer routes due to the airplane's field performance advantage ov
36 DfwRevolution : Roberta, you are referring to an article published almost 8 months before certification. The semi-levered landing gear and an uprated GE90-115 has mor
37 ConcordeBoy : The semi-levered landing gear and an uprated GE90-115 has more than settled the performance issue. ...not entirely. Among the reasons EK decided to le
38 TokyoNarita : TokyoNarita: I just checked JAL's homepage... actually the 772ER is not to be found, are they ordered and to be delivered ? their 772 has only a range
39 The777Man : TokyoNarita: NRT-ZRH is going to 772 already in Jul a few times a week and DEL goes to 772 in Aug04. They currently have 7 777-200/ER with the latest
40 EddieDude : It is great to know that JL will upgrade its flights to MEX from a 743 to a 744. I guess this also confirms that JL is not considering at the moment t
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