Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22073 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4593 times:
JAL will initially use its 777-300ERs on routes within Asia. As the airline builds up experience with the type, trans Pacific routings requiring 207 ETOPS will be included. Look for US West Coast flight about 1 year after the type enters service.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 745 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4540 times:
Could Seattle be on that list? That would be so awesome to get a NON-US carrier to fly on to Tokyo instead of Northwest's flight 7/8 and United's 875/876, and would mean no more flying to LAX or YVR to catch a better carrier like Air Canada, ANA, or Singapore. Plus, JAL just kicks butt.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7696 posts, RR: 5 Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
I have my doubts that JL will fly the 777-300ER to LAX or SFO. I think they would assign a 747-400 on the NRT to LAX or SFO route if an extra flight is necessary.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7183 posts, RR: 45 Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4088 times:
Currently JL is flying 2x weekly a 743 to MEX via YVR (with traffic rights to/from YVR). While I am sure that that the stop in YVR contributes to the loads and yields of the flights, I am sure that a non-stop service between NRT and MEX would lure more Japanese, South Korean and Chinese flyers going to Mexico and Mexican flyers going to those countries. Does anybody know if the 773ER has the range to do NRT-MEX non-stop? And if so, does anybody think that JL would be interested in switching from the 743 to the 773 to MEX and dropping YVR? Thanks for the info.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7696 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (9 years 20 hours ago) and read 3903 times:
I think you can forget about JL flying the 777-300ER to MEX. The reason is simple: the sheer altitude of MEX airport could severely limit the load westbound from MEX back to NRT, unless JL uses YVR as a fuel-only technical stop.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7183 posts, RR: 45 Reply 9, posted (9 years 15 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
Thanks for the info guys. I realized a few minutes after making the post that the range of the 773ER would be compromised by MEX' altitude on the westbound flights. I guess ConcordeBoy is right... the alternative would be the 772LR (JL is not going to consider the A345 ever, right?).
Don From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 hours ago) and read 3427 times:
JAL's all YVR and MEX flights will be upgraded to 744 from 743 from Oct 01. So I don't think that they will switch to 773 from 744 in a hurry as JAL MEX route qualification for pilots is a lengthy affair. 744 pilots had started their route qualification procedures back in March.
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5430 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 hours ago) and read 3248 times:
Actually there were some rumors here awhile back that JAL had made a deal w/ a lounge operator at DFW to house their pax. I think though that JAL will return when D opens.
If this all happens I bet it's a 772, although it could be a 773 ER.
Just some food for thought.
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DfwRevolution From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 hours ago) and read 3226 times:
What makes you so sure about 345 never ever gonna join JAL??
The 772LR has virtual 99% systems commonality with the 773ER and 772ER (minus the engines) not to mention superior performance to boot.
U have the same shitty attitude to the 380!
Airbus has b-l-o-w-n it in Japan. ANA swapped their A32X for new-build 737NG, and Airbus market share is dwindeling past 15%. Threatening to sue Japanese industry over the 7E7 probably won't help either. ANA or JAL haven't come close to ordering the A380, and there are currently no indications that this will change.
Hope someday that JL returns to DFW, with ANY aircraft they wish
When JAL orders the 7E7-8/9, I'd expect them to open new destinations with the smaller aircraft.
Solnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 787 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 hours ago) and read 3161 times:
I can see you speak for the japanese. Hopefully they can speak for themselfes cuz you are just too much for my stomach!
I know Boeing wanna rule the sky, but this is ridiculous.......
Peace, hopefully in near future!
JAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 hours ago) and read 3139 times:
Solnabo, with all due respect...
The Japanese have no intention of ordering an Airbus product anytime soon. Japan gets massive shares of Boeing projects and it is more or less political suicide to not order a Boeing product. JAL and ANA are quasi-governmental organizations who seek to further Japanese interests.
Not to say the A380 or other Airbus products are inferior, but at this time they are not under consideration.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2934 times:
What makes you so sure about 345 never ever gonna join JAL??
Oh, I dunno... something about it being a complete and total oddball in their fleet, versus it's competitor who'd fit in with nigh perfect commonality and stronger performance?
U have the same shitty attitude to the 380!
Um, [from your warped perspective] pray tell: what "attitude" would that be?
Cx340 From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 609 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2834 times:
Oh, I dunno... something about it being a complete and total oddball in their fleet, versus it's competitor who'd fit in with nigh perfect commonality and stronger performance?
I agree with you that a 345 would be totally an oddball in JAL's fleet and the logical step would be to order 772LRs, but then again, it is also an oddball in SIA and they still got them. . .
25 Supersonic78: TokyoNarita: I just checked JAL's homepage... actually the 772ER is not to be found, are they ordered and to be delivered ? their 772 has only a range
26 Roberta: just out of interest how much does range deteriorate on a twin and a quad at a hot and high airport like MEX. PS in response to the above post the 772
27 Supersonic78: hmm, site doesn't seem to be updated, just read an article where they mention 772ER
28 Wolkenridder: I heared, from a friend working in the Sales Department of JAL's Madrid Offices, that there are rumours in JAL for on-line service to MAD. Can anyone
29 DfwRevolution: just out of interest how much does range deteriorate on a twin and a quad at a hot and high airport like MEX. I can hook you up with the 777 data, but
30 Roberta: Given the superior performance of the 777 (relative to MD11 or A340) in just about every category, I imagine the 777 would match or exceed the perform
31 JAL777: actually quads perform better under hot and high conditions not the A340
32 Roberta: actually quads perform better under hot and high conditions not the A340 ohh really, any evidence to back up your deeply profound statment.
33 DfwRevolution: ohh really, any evidence to back up your deeply profound statment. Well it's not like Airbus allows anyone gaze upon a basic outline of its top secret
34 ConcordeBoy: but then again, it is also an oddball in SIA and they still got them Because at the time time they ordered it, it was the only available aircraft capa
35 Roberta: "The 20 A340-600s are due for delivery from June 2007 and should be operated on the longer routes due to the airplane's field performance advantage ov
36 DfwRevolution: Roberta, you are referring to an article published almost 8 months before certification. The semi-levered landing gear and an uprated GE90-115 has mor
37 ConcordeBoy: The semi-levered landing gear and an uprated GE90-115 has more than settled the performance issue. ...not entirely. Among the reasons EK decided to le
38 TokyoNarita: TokyoNarita: I just checked JAL's homepage... actually the 772ER is not to be found, are they ordered and to be delivered ? their 772 has only a range
39 The777Man: TokyoNarita: NRT-ZRH is going to 772 already in Jul a few times a week and DEL goes to 772 in Aug04. They currently have 7 777-200/ER with the latest
40 EddieDude: It is great to know that JL will upgrade its flights to MEX from a 743 to a 744. I guess this also confirms that JL is not considering at the moment t
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