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200 7E7's To Be Ordered In 2004: Boeing  
User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8902 times:

According to an article (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/174829_boeing25.html) Boeing is expecting 200 7E7's to be ordered this year alone & 500 ordered by first delivery in 2008.

I think 200 this year alone might going a little too far. It's already six months into the year. If this happens most of the orders would come from China. (Just my opinion)

[Edited 2004-05-25 10:57:18]

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User currently offlineSabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8746 times:

Well, 200 sounds a lot, but Boeing has already 50 on order and since the B7E7 is merely a B767 replacement this is very well possible. How many B767s are up for replacement?

If they can convince 2 or 3 more B767 operators the B7E7 is good for them, they already have their target.





[Edited 2004-05-25 11:09:55]

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8737 times:

yeah, thats a bit over-estimating the orders. My prediction is about roughly 100-115 at the most...give or take. As far as orders when the first delivery happens, I dont know what to think since orders can be changed or cancelled.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12165 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8735 times:
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Boeing's prediction could actually be correct because there are several airlines that I know off are considering adding the B7E7 to replace their old 767's and A310's
1) Singapore Airlines
2) LOT
3) Lufthansa
4) Air Lingus

If anyone else knows of other airlines considering the B7E7 then please add to the list


User currently offlineTK001 From Turkey, joined May 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8472 times:

5) THY - Turkish Airlines might order some since they are looking for new aircrafts. Would love to see B7E7 in Turkish fleet

TK001


User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8395 times:

Don't forget all the airlines in China. They are expected to make an order bigger than ANA's!!!

AA787



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User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8375 times:

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User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

There's always a gap between 'firm' orders and 'options' (which are often not taken up, or converted to something else). Anyone know whether this '200' number includes 'options?' If so, it's hardly an impressive prediction. And you can be sure that if they (Boeing) don't hit 200 this year, the naysayers will be out in force. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

User currently offlineKEESJE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8211 times:



Mike Bair, Boeing's vice president of the 7E7 program, said only 92 7E7s will be built for customers through 2009.




http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/174829_boeing25.html


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9820 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8100 times:

Emirates Airlines also indicated they would be interested in the 7E7 to replace their A330-200 fleet from 2009. If Boeing can make good offers for SQ, EK and the Chinese airlines they might well reach 200 orders this year.

Only time will tell....

Regards A388


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7779 times:

Sabenapilot

The 7E7 is more than just a 767 replacement, it can also replace the 757, & A300 series aircraft. With it's range & anticipated fuels savings, it can also replace any series of aircraft.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7719 times:

There are several major airshows this summer, so the 200 number is not so far fetched.

If I was at home I could look this up, but how many FIRM orders did the 777 have in its first year after launch. That should be a good indicator for the 7E7.



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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7617 times:

I wonder why Boeing isn't updating their Order and delivery website. The ANA order isn't up there nor is the GOL order or WN's.


Any others that are missing? That's almost 100 aircraft not shown. Unless I missed any other orders......


Strange.



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User currently offlineSpk From Thailand, joined Jun 2001, 458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7543 times:

Local medias in Thailand reported that Boeing is trying to get 7E7 order from THAI to replace their A300 fleet. If this becomes a reality then we can expect 15-25 airframe order (their A300-600 fleet consists of 21 aircrafts).

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7486 times:

I have this feeling that Boeing is going to have pretty substantial 7E7-3 orders from LH, SQ and TG for regional flights. It all comes down to this: the Airbus A330-200 is way too heavy a plane for regional routes.

User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

200 Units may actually be low. Airlines will choose the best bird for the job. Just ask BBD and EMB. While the CRJ-700/900 have sold well, the ERJ's are garnering some pretty large orders.

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7403 times:

i really cant see LH ordering the 7E7, they are a majority Airbus carrier and besides, they have no need for a 7E7 sized a/c. The 321 and 333 are ample for the forseeable future.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineAdria From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7395 times:

It's a Boeing article

User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7246 times:

VERY good, Adria! It's an article about Boeing. Now, do you care to toss in any analysis there or do you want to just identify it as an article about Boeing?


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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7177 times:

200 this year, and 800 by 2008 might be a little too optimistic. Wouldn't that equate into one of the best selling aircraft ever?


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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7167 times:

Sounds like great news for Boeing. The 7E7 will almost certainly be a charm for Boeing. There are so many aircraft, 767s, A300s/A310s, even 757s I guess, to be replaced in the upcoming years.

It's a Boeing article

It's actually a Seattle Post article. You're just trying to make it look like the article is not credible, because you don't want to believe it's very realistic, do you Adria? I know why, because it means that Boeing may have a very high success rate with this new aircraft, and you don't want that. Because you are biased towards Airbus and against Boeing.

BTW, I've read over some of your previous posts and you don't seem to have a problem trusting Airbus' news and outlooks for their aircraft, so why do you at Boeing? Double standard, huh?



-NWA742


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5395 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7089 times:

No, no, no! Don't you see?!? Adria believes that Boeing has paid off the Seattle P-I to ONLY write articles with a pro-Boeing slant, journalistic integrity be damned! After all, NOTHING like that happens in Europe!  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7018 times:

In fact, the Seattle P-I frequently has a very negative view on Boeing.

It always surprises me.

N


User currently offlineFiedman From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

There is one airline I can think of as well that could order the aircraft British Airways which has always been a big Boeing supporter they may order a few aircrafts to either help or replace there 767/757 fleet one of there or both

And I think airlines that may not want the A380 because of the unsureity of its success and its economics would probably be more drawn to the 7E7 so I don't thing the 200 orders is that far fetched.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

What are the chances of a US airline ordering the 7E7? I think it is great that international carriers are showing interest though  Big thumbs up


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25 Hamlet69 : I wouldn't be completely surprised by 200 firm orders this year, though it would be a formidable challenge. ANA has already committed to 50, with a co
26 777236ER : TUI anyone? They've been poised to order that "definate A330-200 order" for a very long time now. They've been stalling for a long time - for a reason
27 Greg : I would say if Boeing can't sell 200 medium range jets this year...then there is a serious problem with their marketing tacticts. The overall market f
28 NWA742 : In fact, the Seattle P-I frequently has a very negative view on Boeing. It always surprises me. You're correct Gigneil. Surprises me as well. -NWA742
29 Dbo861 : The article says "Boeing believes it may win as many as 200 firm orders for its 7E7 this year alone, en route to 500 orders by the time the first plan
30 DfwRevolution : If I was at home I could look this up, but how many FIRM orders did the 777 have in its first year after launch. That should be a good indicator for t
31 Post contains images TR763 : Maybe I´m not very well informed, but i think that maybe AA, UA, DL and AC could be interested in the 7E7 couldn´t they?? As their 767 are aging 20
32 BoingGoingGone : Maybe I´m not very well informed, but i think that maybe AA, UA, DL and AC could be interested in the 7E7 couldn´t they?? Absolutely and it's more o
33 Dllongisland : My sources tell me that DL will order a 7E7 as the new "Spirit of Delta" flagship aircraft. The current "Spirit" will be up for retirement within the
34 DfwRevolution : My sources tell me that DL will order a 7E7 as the new "Spirit of Delta" flagship aircraft. The current "Spirit" will be up for retirement within the
35 Nosedive : Shares of Boeing rose $1.16 to $44.56 in trading on the New York Stock Exchange. It looks like the investors like this news- or that's what the articl
36 Codeshare : The 7E7 seems to be the perfect choice for LOT. It would replace the 767s, save costs( fuel etc and maintenance, allow for expansion on long-haul rout
37 Starrion : Both the A380 and the 7E7 are going to fly. They are both going to be successful at their segment of the marketplace. IMO the 7E7 will sell five to ei
38 MD 11 : Hi, LH is defenitely going for the 7E7 in my eyes! They were looking a long time for a replacement for their A300/310-fleet. O.K., they ordered the A3
39 N79969 : I'll believe it when I see it. But then again Boeing must be pretty confident if they are talking to the press with specific numbers.
40 AvObserver : Certainly possible but I agree with ChrisNH that perhaps they shouldn't go out on a limb with predictions, even though the 200 number is pegged as a b
41 American 767 : And what if Boeing announces a 7E7 Freighter? If that happens then I'm sure Fed Ex will order a lot of them, no less than 60 of them, because they hav
42 EAL757 : OK, I have to attack that last comment...A300/A310 fleet up for replacement by FedEx? Not even close....especially the A300's. If you'll remember, the
43 EAL757 : I failed to address Ben's final comment in my last post: "I'm convinced FedEx will like that" ...Ben, FedEx has convinced us all (and I certainly can'
44 Windshear : I think it's a long time since we've heard anything from BA... I think their 763s will be replaced and with the rumors of them getting rid of their B7
45 EAL757 : I just have to say this: speculation is a beautiful thing isn't it? ...we're all presuming that all these airlines will order, but truth is that with
46 DfwRevolution : instead of being subjected to typical American materialism Typical American materialism? Like NW opperating DC9s and DC10s from the dawn of the jet ag
47 Gigneil : FedEx has bought many new DC-10Fs, was the launch customer of the MD-11, ordered many new 727Fs, and ordered 36 new A300F4-600Rs. FedEx is no stranger
48 Brons2 : I wouldn't expect switching to the 7E7 unless it offered 80-90 tons on long range missions, which I don't believe it does. A potential 772LRF could do
49 Gigneil : Indeed a 777F based on the 772LR platform could... ...but my guess is Boeing is demanding a ridiculous premium for such a craft. N
50 Rjpieces : 1) Singapore Airlines 2) LOT 3) Lufthansa 4) Air Lingus If anyone else knows of other airlines considering the B7E7 then please add to the list Not ne
51 Tekelberry : No offense to all of you out there who are skeptical, but I think a Boeing executive would know a little more about the number of planes they are goin
52 EAL757 : DfwRevolution: if you bothered to read my post, I didn't include NW in the "typical American materialism" post. I was specifically addressing AA, UA a
53 777236ER : 2) because it's a great plane...much better than the A320 will ever be. Ridiculous. The A320 is superior in every single aspect. Get a clue.
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