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User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

I was just curious about what aircraft are being used in the Cdn election campaign if anyone knows?

I thought I saw a news clip with PM Paul Martin in what looked like a 727-200?!! With all of their stolen tax payers money could the Liberals not come up with a slightly newer aircraft?



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2245 times:

The Liberals are using a 727-200 from Starjet and the NDP are using a 737-200 from A/C Jetz. We ( 7F ) were supposed to provide the NDP with a 727 but I think that fell through because of a c-check we could delay no longer on the aircraft. I have no idea who the Conservatives are flying with.

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User currently offlineRobsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

The Conservatives are using an AC 319. See more details here:

http://www.achorizons.ca/en/issues/2004/may/conservative.htm

No announcement on providing the NDP with an aircraft though - is AC embarassed about associating their name with a labour-backed political party?


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

NDP is using C-GQCA an Air Canada Jetz A320. i have a shot on it albeit not in a good quality taken yesterday at YVR. Go over to jetphotos to look for it, its already there. Search C-GQCA.

Edit: The picture is of the a/c wearing the orange "NDP NPD" titles! check it out.

[Edited 2004-05-25 19:25:25]

User currently offlineYhmfan From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

On a less serious front, have a look at this thread in non-av:


http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/564447/



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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Paul Martin flew into YHM on a Starjet B727-200 today. It had "touréemartintour" and "Liberal.ca" on the side.

I submitted a photo of it to A.net. In the queue now.

Jack Layton flew into YHM on an AC JETZ A320 a few weeks ago. It had "Jack Layton 2004" in bright orange on the side.

Cheers, Andy



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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Here is Paul Martin's ride...


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Cheers, Andy



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User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

I have nothing against the 727--beautiful aircraft----

However it is old and kind of yesterday's vintage. Could there be a more appropriate choice to ferry around Paul Martin, the leader of that tired useless bucnh of morons aka the Liberal Party of canada---?


User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

I started thinking, why isn't Paul Martin using one of the CAF's A310's? They are for government use as well as military right?
I wouldn't expect to see him flying around in an older 727 (as much as I love them), and the A310 wouldn't cost that much more to operate would it?



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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Since the Liberal party has to fund it's own campaign flights, they are not allowed to fly around on CAF Polaris' as that would be on our dime.

Andy



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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3024 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1826 times:
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I started thinking, why isn't Paul Martin using one of the CAF's A310's? They are for government use as well as military right?


Government use yes, political use no. They can't use military aircraft during an election campaign. The Polaris fleet isn't on the PMs beckon call. I remember reading once that the CC150s are available as a civilian lease, but that the price is ridiculously high.

Anyways, since 90% of Canadians couldn't (or more importantly would not care to) tell a 727 from a CRJ, i don't think anyone really cares. Especially since the StarJet 727s look cleaner than most of the AC fleet these days.



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

It's amusing that the governing party (in theory the party with the biggest coffers) are using the oldest (and presumably the cheapest) aircraft -- the 722.

Meanwhile the NDP with the smallest campaign fund has a new 319 -- well socialists always were good at spending money. No surprize perhaps.

I'm a little disappointed that the CPC has leased an AC aircraft. I would have expect the party most supportive of business and entrepreneurs would have leased a campaign aircraft from another airline on principle. Ah well -- I guess only AC has spare aircraft available given their unnecessary extra capacity.




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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Neil,

The NDP were all set to use a First Air B727 but had to go with AC JETZ due to the above reasons.

What does the Green Party use, I wonder? ...


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Andy



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1769 times:

The NDP were all set to use a First Air B727 but had to go with AC JETZ due to the above reasons.

The NDP should be using a Tupolev TU-154 -- it's more in line with their political leanings.  Smile





Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLucky727 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Just heard this at work yesterday : Jack Layton's A320 wasn't needed over the past weekend, and when AC suddenly needed an aircraft, they borrowed it back for a couple of days.

Apparently, lots of curious passengers were craning their necks as it pulled up to their gate for regular scheduled flights...expecting to see Jack walk off...(not sure exactly what routes it was being borrowed back for - somewhere in Eastern Canada)

Monday it went back to NDP campaign use...



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

I saw an AC Jetz with Jack Layton titles. Will upload it shortly if i have time. Taken 1 june at YVR sunset time.

Aren't these jetz C class configed with 50 seats or some sort? Would be great for pax service. they'd love them. but AC would only be able to carry limited pax. There's one pic in the database of a pax flight flown by a Jetz a/c.


User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 793 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1695 times:
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Just about all of the Jetz planes are in the 60 seat J class configuration. There is one plane that has the regular 140 seat J/Y configuration. They sometimes use the planes on mainline flights to get the plane to certain city if needed.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Article in the Globe and Mail today said the NDP 320 (or 319) with NDP stickers on it was used on an AC sked YYZ-YQB v.v. Caused some confusion in YQB.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineRobsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Could you imagine the flack the NDP would get if they used a non-union airline!

Of course, their campaign slogan of "A Green a Prosperous Canada", is an obvious tilt toward stealing Green Party support, but their roots are still heavy with labour support and I believe they still have a formal affiliation with a number of unions.

The new Conservative Party is really trying to present themselves as a national party, as opposed to the western based Reform/Alliance parties. So, Air Canada it must be.

The Liberals? Low bid by StarJet I presume. I think they have to pare back their usually huge campaign spending.


User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

When I was in YWG (I just got back this Monday), I met up with MEL and he took me on a tour of YWG's facilities. During that time, MEL told me that he saw an AC A319 that was modified with Conservative stickers on the fuselage several days before.

User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

What does the Green Party use, I wonder? ...

Bicycles.



User currently offlineAF-A319 From France, joined Oct 1999, 603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

What about Gilles Duceppe from the Bloc (credited of 48% of the voters intentions in QC). Does he only ride on a bus?

User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

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It's the right colour, and the number of seats they should have in the house is written on the side of the airplane  Smile



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