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How To Buy A Plane In Mojave...?  
User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10746 times:

Does any one knows how to buy and old plane like 727, 37 or any, that are scrap on the deserts, like in Mojave or the desert in New Mexico and Arizona.
The idea its to use one for a restaurant....


757 forever
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User currently offlineStearmanNut From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10612 times:

Nearly all the old planes there are on "floorplans" from some financing or leasing entity or other. You can find out from airport management who are the banking parties and contact them on what they may have to sell or liquidate.

Evergreen is another source for old aircraft. They have tons of them at Marana by Tucson.



If wishes were horses, a Tail Dragger I would fly...
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10597 times:

Are you looking for an airworthy frame or simply a hulk?

User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10480 times:

Well we want something complete from the outside, inside we are going to change all for tables and seats, and the outside have to be perfect, well of course we have to paint and fix parts...


757 forever
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10470 times:

Let me rephrase. Is the plane going to fly?

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10433 times:


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User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10420 times:

Of course no.... We just need the body...


757 forever
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10346 times:

If you are just looking for a hulk, your best bet is to contact one of the many scrap dealers that are located around each of the "graveyards". The operators usually sell the frames sans operational parts to the dealers who then strip out everything else usable and then convert it into scrap metal. They would much rather save themselves the scrapping costs (after salvage of parts) and make a few $ out of selling a fuselage hulk.

User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10333 times:

Thank you 9-11... Can you imagine how to move them from Arizona to Cancun...? That's the funny job



757 forever
User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10190 times:

B747-437B Tank you, sounds much better then buy a almost new plane...


757 forever
User currently offlineConcord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10108 times:

Cun757,

I suggest that you contact Doug Scroggins. He has bought & sold several aircraft out there. (he's a great guy, also!)

You can contact him through his websites:

http://www.lostbirds.org/

http://www.convair880.com/




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User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10035 times:

Thank you Concord... Hope one day I can get my toy down here...


757 forever
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9856 times:

I will take an Eastern 727  Big thumbs up (are there EA planes left there??)


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9801 times:

OK7E72004.... You want to open a restaurant also.... :O


757 forever
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9771 times:

nah...people in Indiana have old, rusty cars in their backyard..so why not a 727?  Big thumbs up


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9702 times:

With shipping, you could have several options. The 727 and other narrowbodies should be narrow enough to ship by rail, sans tail and wings, which would have to be shipped seperately, though they could still go by rail. BNSF from Mohave to Dallas, then KCSouthern to Mexico. From there, you're on your own. Also, length might be an issue, especially on routes that twist through the mountains. The bird might have to be chopped in half before being loaded onto the railroad car.

For the larger birds, I can't imagine any other way than flying them out of there. The only other way I can think of would be by rail to the port of Los Angeles (if that's even possible), then by ship.

No matter what, it's going to cost.



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User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9651 times:

Just imagine...having an old Eastern 727 being dropped off in the backyard!  Big thumbs up


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offlineCun757 From Mexico, joined May 2004, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9630 times:

Yeap... I think IM going to made one on wood.... Maybe its going to be cheaper:D


757 forever
User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

Cun757,

Do you already have a name for your restaurant?
Like: Casa delAvioni  Smokin cool

FJWH  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



FlightS in the next 3 months: MSP, PHX, MEM, NCE, TFS, BCN. All round trips from AMS
User currently offlineSAS330GOT From Sweden, joined May 2004, 252 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9464 times:

Cun757,
Dep. On the budget... You could call Boeing or Airbus and have a 7E7 or a A380 as a restaurant. You would have to wait a bit but it would make a hell of a restaurant!
SAS330GOT


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1374 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9370 times:

Will be nice but the larger types(747/L1011/DC-10) would have to be totally dismantled and rebuilt. Their bodies are to tall to fit under alot of overpasses,wires etc. Call and keep us informed.


Treat others as you expect to be treated!
User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1122 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9278 times:

You could always get a aircraft that is capable of being ferried but not economical for operations.


Knowledge Replaces Fear
User currently offlineSQ452 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1082 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9205 times:

Im am intrigued by this. How much does say a 757 post sans parts cost in the mojave???

But then honestly how do you get it OUT of there.

Sounds like a big undertaking



SIN > CVG > BOS
User currently offlineDonreith From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9057 times:

Here's another option: http://www.airplanehome.com/. You should also do a search on eBay. A quick check there turned up the cockpit of a 727 simulator. I'm sure a whole fuselage will be available from time to time.

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5197 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 8965 times:

Cun757,

Why bothering going all the way to Mojave?

At CUN there's an old 727 ex. Allegro. You just go to the terminal, ask for the administrator or someone that could help you buying that 727.

At CVJ there are 7 ex. Aerolineas Internacionales 727s. I've heard a week ago that they'll come back with 2 and probably they'll add 2 more. But I know that at least 2 won't get back to the air. You could also go and search for those 727s.

At TLC airport you have 2 ex. 727s from Taesa.

At MEx you have 2 ex. 727s from Taesa. (In fact there were 4, one has been cutted in piece going somewhere and one its a 727-100 that will carry Mexicana's colors at Museo Explora in León city)

And at MTY there are several ex. 727s from Aviacsa/AeroExo.

In Costa Rica I think there are several 732s ex. TACA.... closer to CUN also.

If you still want to go up north, please bring a 747! I would love to go to your restaurant! It's a very nice idea.

Ricardo APM  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
25 Post contains images Airshowdawg : Finally some real talk about getting a real meal on an airliner Seriously, good luck with this adventure, I hope it becomes reality. Karl
26 Post contains images Mjcasta : I have thought about inquiring as well. Although, I am more interested in the aircraft as housing. Not so sure if the wife concurs though Seriosly tho
27 Cun757 : Thank you all... You know what Ghost... I try in here with this 727, but some people say its from Aviacsa, and some other from Allegro... And when you
28 Post contains links Spacepope : Search http://www.planemart.com by type. Each airframe has hours and cycles, as well as contact information for the parties selling the planes.
29 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : @CUN757: moving is no problem, contact one of the larger international logistic companies (i.e. Kuehne + Nagel), they are able to arrange the transpor
30 IMissPiedmont : I truly hate to put a damper on the idea, but I must. My now deceased dad had the same idea 18 years ago. He had the advantage of living in Tucson, wh
31 Post contains images Ghost77 : Cun757, Yeap, I was checking who that 727-200 was and it is from Aviacsa. XA-RXI std and used for spares since 1995. Well if it is impossible because
32 CruzinAltitude : Hmmm. Ive always wondered how much it would be to get just the flight deck from one of those birds. Maybe turn it into a home offce desk. Or better ye
33 Post contains links Spacepope : If you have a look here http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?main=Boeing they have a 767-200 cockpit from one of the ex-TWA birds for sale. Would t
34 Cospn : There is a 747 at TIJ..mabe easier because it is Mexico they may give it to you free to get rid of it..or open one in TIJ >>>
35 Post contains images Cun757 : Thanks Cospn... I knew about this one but its to big... Can you imagine how many tables I need to full that...?
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