SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6 Posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2074 times:
This letter was sent to my dad. (I'm not sure I'm allowed to post it ) Anyway I only pasted a small portion of it.
May 21, 2004
Last week your MEC Chairman, Capt. Andy Hughes, was presented with an unwritten, verbal "offer" from Mesa Air Group Management for a 737 operation. This operation was presented as an independent, stand-alone, up to 10 aircraft venture out of Pittsburgh. The offer was also presented under an implied threat that if the offer was not accepted, then the certificate, and flying under it, would be sold.
The offer was as follows:
- 737 Captain Pay Rates at 20% over the CRJ 900
- 737 First Officer pay at current Jet First Officer Pay Rates
- 2-year extension to the current Collective Bargaining Agreement
(thru Sept. 19, 2009)
- No Jet-to-Jet First Officer Movement
Freshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1961 times:
Yeah we all got the same letter in our E-mail from Johnny-O. We already have the 737's, 8 of them that are ready to go. I believe that they are being stored in a hangar out at Goodyear. Its part of Johnny's back up plan should US have more problems and not make it, but what I have herd is that alot of the pilots would not touch a 737 for that kind of pay and low ball the other pilots (WN,DL for ex.) that make good pay flying it and set yet another bad example like Mesa is prone to do.
SonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
I'm somewhat confused Sonofacaptain........does your dad work for USairways, or Mesa, because you have now claimed he works for US in one thread, and YV in this thread.........which is it?
Lol, I think I have made it a little confusing . Ok, this is the tiny summary of my dad's sad airline career for the past year and half (This is the 3rd time he has been furloughed) On Jan. 1st, 2003 my dad was furloughed. (Ok we will skip the summer time) On Aug. 16 he started training for Mesa Airlines on a CRJ-200 flying under US Airways Express banner. Sometime during the winter he made capt. . And this is were we are at today. (And he is counting down the days until Oct. (That's when his contract for Mesa is up and he can go to MidAtlantic, flying the Emb-170 (Which is an AWESOME plane to ride in)
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
Yeah we all got the same letter in our E-mail from Johnny-O. We already have the 737's, 8 of them that are ready to go. I believe that they are being stored in a hangar out at Goodyear.
Yeah right...I'll believe it when I see it. If Mesa is serious about this, they would be in violation of codeshare agreements. They cant operate an aircraft with more than 90 seats or something like that.
If Mesa got the 737s, would they continue to code share for HP and UA?
If and only if this was to happen, Im sure it would tick off HP for sure. Mesa has got to be very very careful at what they are going to do in terms of aircraft aquiring and pax configuration.
no doubt J.O. threw about 3.40 plus speed tape to get them airworthy......
He probably used permaseal (for floor panels) tape with Cargo pit tape to keep the airframe together.
A Safe Flight Begins With Quality Maintenance On The Ground.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5892 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
And this also was previously mentioned in the media, as I post in a thread a few days ago. According to public statements anyway, this is only one possible alternative being looked at by Mesa in the event that US fails.
A340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1696 times:
Give me a break regarding the CO 733 comment...A good sign of an airplane's worth is the maintenance done to it by the previous carrier. Note that a good portion of CO's MD-82s have gone on to fly for other carriers, quite a few more than US's (granted that theirs are -81s). And also note that COs 737-300s are almost all accounted for since they've gone to the desert, becoming cargo birds for TNT in Belgium, and soon to become Mesa's 737-300s (Ship 308 should be the first one I'm told)...even the 3 -500s were snatched up within a week of returning to the lessor.
Anything in Mesa's contract preventing them from flying them for a carrier that has yet to start service? VirginRed (USA, whatever) anyone?
"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"