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US Airways Exp. To Stop PIT-RDG Service In Sept.  
User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

US Airways Express will discontinue PIT-RDG service come Sept. 1st, 2004 due to poor flight scheduling and poor passenger loads. This will be a huge loss of business for the Reading Airport and may spell the end for it. Back in 1998 US Airways Express ran 14 daily flights from RDG to PIT, PHL, BWI and BOS but due to the Sept 11 attacks service was drastically cut and even after strong passenger complaints to US Airways to bring back the flights most of the RDG service was never reinstated and the service that was kept was downgraded to Beech 1900 aircraft insted of keeping the DASH-8 and Dornier 328's that had been previously used on some of the routes. US Airways Express will start service from LNS to PIT in OCT of 2004. The service will be provided by Mesa/Air Midwest using Beech 1900's 4 times a day, but according to the LNS airport authority the main goal is to have RJ service from US Airways Express/Mesa to several destinations by mid 2005. LNS is in the process of lengthening its runways to accomadate the RJ's preformance needs.

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User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

Whatever happened to that rumor you mentioned awhile back about NW Airlink starting service to DTW from RDG?

Also isn't the PIT service cuts a direct result of the pull-down of US's hub?


User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

The NW deal was true, I saw the paperwork on it but apparently the revenue gaurentee numbers that they wanted didn't work out so it was scrapped. I believe that may be true about the PIT cuts, but I don't see how they can claim poor pax loads. Most of the flights to and from RDG are 17 and higher. True the schedule is not the best but I don't see their logic in this.

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23004 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

At only 224 miles, RDG-PIT is probably not a significant O&D market, so these flights primarily provide feed. Thus, PSU.DTW.SCE is absolutely correct: these cuts are the direct result of the reduction in connecting opportunities in PIT.


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Interesting. Several of the options Mesa/Air Midwest provided in its EAS application for LNS involved one-stop service to PIT via RDG. (Incidentally, the DOT decided on 3 non-stop daily flights for the PIT-LNS service, and not 4 as LNS was hoping for.)


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Get in line to cry about it. With PIT going to a focus city, there a lot of communities that will have no air service in the near future. The PIT closure and the war in PHL will start to have casualties and they are the B1900 communities.

User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

That's a shame. I flew through RDG in Feb '03....on my B1900 flight from PHL, there were a total of four people on board...myself, one passenger (looked to be a non-rev), and the flight crew. Great though, since they left the door open up front  Big thumbs up

It's a great airport...there's nothing like flying through an airport with extremely limited airline service. It's a great experience.



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4043 times:

Get in line to cry about it. With PIT going to a focus city, there a lot of communities that will have no air service in the near future.

I think this would be happening even without the PIT downgrade. If it ain't EAS, Mesa doesn't want anything to do with it. They just can't make money with the 19-seaters anymore.



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User currently offlineColemanville From United States of America, joined May 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3973 times:

I thought the DOT approved up to 5 LNS-PIT routes/day. I also heard rumor about the classic PIT-RDG-LNS-PIT or the other way around.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3943 times:

I thought the DOT approved up to 5 LNS-PIT routes/day. I also heard rumor about the classic PIT-RDG-LNS-PIT or the other way around.

Nope.

Mesa gave 5 options:
Option 1: 4x LNS-PIT + 1x LNS-RDG-PIT
Option 2: 3x LNS-PIT + 1x LNS-RDG-PIT
Option 3: 3x LNS-PIT
Option 4: 3x LNS-RDG-PIT
Option 5: 4x LNS-PIT
Mesa's filing is at http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf89/280455_web.pdf.

The city of Lancaster wanted Option 1 or Option 5.

The DOT chose Option 3. The DOT filing is at http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf89/282058_web.pdf.



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User currently offlineColemanville From United States of America, joined May 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3934 times:

The Lancaster Air-Service task force wanted option 4. I was still hoping (for the benefit on Lancaster) that DCI would feed something into LNS. But they pulled out of the runnings for the EAS money.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3925 times:

The Lancaster Air-Service task force wanted option 4.

No, they didn't.

As I said, they wanted Option 1 or Option 5.

Their filing is at http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf89/280454_web.pdf.



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User currently offlineColemanville From United States of America, joined May 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

What the Task Force wanted and what they were forced to put on paper is 2 different issues. If anyone knows the most about this on this board it would be me. My last post should have said option 5 plus one. I have to learn i cant post on here after an IROP night. BTW press release should be coming out soon for LNS-PIT starting late JUL early AUG depending on aircraft availabilty. As of yesterday LNS is still inactive in any RES system.

[Edited 2004-05-28 17:58:12]

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3799 times:

Im sorry it was option 5 plus one more flight. I have to learn i can't post on here after an IROP night! I have the docs too if you would like to see.

No, it was not.

Quoting from the above linked document at http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf89/280454_web.pdf:

"The Lancaster Airport Authority and the Lancaster Air Service Task Force respectfully requests that the DOT choose “Option 1, five round trip, four non stops and one one-stop, or “Option 5”, four round trip non-stop flights."

I'm through arguing with you now. Good day.

[Edited 2004-05-28 17:58:48]

[Edited 2004-05-28 17:59:24]


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User currently offlineJcooke From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 81 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

All I can say is BUMMER! That really sucks!

Freshlove, I hope they're giving you an option to move to LNS or another station. PM me and let me know what's going on.

That's a real bummer. I really enjoyed flying into RDG when the schedules permitted and the fares were semi-reasonable. They renovated the airport a number of years ago and let it go to waste. Thanks, AD.

I hope someone picks up the service into RDG - I wouldn't mind flying into PHL, perhaps even ORD or AD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD  Smile Riiiight... hehe. I really do hope someone picks the service back up nonetheless.

What are they going to do with the charter service?

-JC


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