Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 46 Posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4200 times:
This is one of those summer destinations, and with the new terminal now open at PLN, NW will implement a huge increase in flights this summer, especially the weekends. The increase will also include a daily ARJ flight. The weekends will have the biggest increase in capacity, with Saturday and Sunday seeing 6 CRJ's and 1 ARJ. Weekdays will have 4 CRJ's 1 ARJ and 2 SF34's.
NW remains to be the only airline serving this non towered airport.
The most impressive part about this, IMHO, is PLN will be all Jets on the weekends.
ElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3871 times:
Looks like many people will be heading up to Mackinac Island for the 4th of July weekend...... and the few remaining seats will be gone before July 1 gets here. Almost all DTW-PLN flights were completely sold out today.
Isitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3763 times:
Hey Maiz..I found a 78 North Central timetable in the basement last week and TVC and PLN had 14 departures a day the summer of....half of em were model 50's and I don't mean Rj's. ALSO..went thru DTW yesterday around 6pm and counted 24 NW birds in new colors(excluding Canadairs)parked at the A. NW is parking more ARJ's at the A. I counted 5 parked there around 6 30pm.
If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7965 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3666 times:
You mean Ford F-250 Diesel club cab dual rear axle's with a couch, ATV, BBQ grill pulling a 26 ft Sea-Ray with a Jet-Ski on top doing 85 mph up I-75. Ah yes, the madness. I'm supposed to head up there this weekend, thus why I'm not leaving until about 9pm tonight.
Yeah, NW has been parking most of the Arvo's on the north inside alley of A since CRJ's are using most the gates on B now during certain flight banks.
PLN sure is a unique market, it is extremely high yield with the communities in the tip of the mit and they've got virtually no competition up there. I knew that it was going to be all-jet on the weekends, but I didn't know that they were even getting an Arvo. Offering First class into PLN, impressive. Largest aircraft since I believe it was North Central breifly flew DC-9's in there back in the late 70's. In the winter, traffic sharply drops off and it goes back to 3 daily Saabs and 1 CRJ. I've flown that route in the winter before and those flights rarely have more than 10 -15 people. In the summer, especially the weekends they're packed.
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3644 times:
are you heading to Harbor Springs? Stop by the airport, they have been pretty busy with Bizjets today, even a Falcon 2000. I am going to try to get up there for some photos when I head back to TVC in a few weeks...
Information as of 5/28/2004 8:42:10 PM GMT
FlightID: N151GR (General Aviation Jet)
Status: IN FLIGHT
Owner: GUTHY-RENKER AVIATION LLC
Ground Spd: 487 kts Altitude: 38,700
Type: F2TH (Dassault-Breguet Falcon 2000)
Origin Apt: UDD BERMUDA DUNES
Dest Apt: MGN HARBOR SPRINGS
Departed: 12:16 PM PDT (1916Z)
Original ETA: 06:36 PM EDT (2236Z)
Calculated ETA: 06:38 PM EDT (2238Z), In 1h 49m
Dist Fm Dept: 711 nm Dist To Dest: 886 nm
SegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3600 times:
When I was with Great Lakes, we flew the 1900 during the winter up there in the ORD-PLN-CIU market.. in the summer we'd have strictly ORD-PLN turns on the Brasilia 3x a day.. our 7A flight from ORD to PLN was always full (from UA's red eyes).. I believe just below Lakes pulled out of ORD (as UAX, pre divorce days) the flights were routed thru TVC or MKG on the 1900...
Jamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1053 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
I am a child prodigy of the 1970's and as a kid I was so fascinated with large jetliners servicing small-town airports in America. My dad worked for United while I was growing up and I remember passing through Chicago and Detroit and seeing North Central DC-9's and Convairs departing to destinations such as Kalamazoo and Pellston. I also remember watching Ozark's DC-9s darting off to small towns in the midwest from Chicago...Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, etc.
In my adult life I have become a collector of postcards of small town airports that feature what were then known as the local service airlines. Every once in a while a postcard pops up on eBay of a North Central DC-9 parked on the tarmac in Pellston. I always get outbid on that particular postcard. Being an aviation buff, I can honestly say that it warms my heart to know that places like Pellston, MI are at least receiving regional jet service. I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and lived in a suburb of San Francisco that had a small general aviation airport. It was in Concord, California. As I kid, I used to fantasize about commercial airliners landing in Concord. My childhood fantasy came true when PSA started flying into Concord in the mid-1980's. It was such a beautiful sight to watch a PSA BAe-146 on final approach into my hometown airport. I was literally living a dream-come-true. To this day, I think the 146 and its later derivative, the Avro, is the best regional airliner in its class. It has a nice wide cabin appeal and doesn't feel constraining the way a CRJ and ERJ feel to me. PSA was taken over by USAir in the 1980's and it was so amazing to me that one could fly FIRST CLASS on a BAe-146 from Concord to LA. They would actually serve a beautiful pasta salad with prawns on the one hour and fifteen minute flight to LAX! So, I can relish in your delight of witnessing an Avro fly into Pellston with first class service! Only a fellow aviation buff can understand the turn-on!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4185 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3008 times:
As PSU mentioned, the majority of the avros are parked now on the A concourse. We operate out of gates 59, 61 and 63 and Mesaba rampers and agents work the flights. A memo to the pilots a few weeks ago indicated in June we will occupy 2 more gates (presumably 57 and 55) and no longer park on the B concourse.
As far as PLN goes... I hope I see a PLN turn in my schedule sometime this summer... looks like it will be fun flyin'!
AGrayson514 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2951 times:
With that new terminal (its really nice by the way, its like a huge ski lodge) I hope that PLN see's some additional service from chicago. Possibly AE, UA, or C8 (Chicago express, don't know their two digit code). I know quite a few Chicagoans who vacation in beautiful northern Michigan.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7965 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2945 times:
Emmet County went all-out on the new terminal in PLN. It first opened last fall but there is still some detail work being completed, such as a new parking lot (free parking), landscaping, and repaving the ramp area outside the airline terminal. Plus a nice restaurant on the 2nd floor is set to open this summer. There is also an observation deck on the 2nd level that overlooks the entire field. The terminal has the feel of a northern Michigan lodge. Its seems like a private airline lounge with stuffed chairs, couches, large TV's, etc. Both gates have regional aircraft jet-bridges.
As for now NW Airlink (Mesaba station) with both XJ and 9E flights is the only airline servicing the airport. Service to Chicago in the future again is very possible, however;
ORD is a nightmare right now with the massive congestion, again. While there is no slot system, both AA and UA have been asked to limit the number of flights to reduce massive cluster#@$'s. Mostly its all the RJ's causing the mess. So for the time being neither airline will likely dedicate the flights, and aircraft to a small outstation like PLN, where they are flying RJ's into major markets still. If either airline still were flying props out of ORD or have available "slots" then they probably would. Given the situation at ORD, its unlikely for non-stops to PLN. One-stops continuing from either TVC, GRR, or GRB could be possible, but for now it seems they aren't focusing on smaller markets out of ORD. I still can't believe that either AA or UA has service from ORD to FNT!
As for C8, they would be possible too, but they don't have additional aircraft and they aren't planning to expand anytime soon. MDW has its own problems with congestion too. C8 winter loads would also be horrendous out of PLN. Since they don't serve TVC, they'd probably look there before PLN.
NW owns Michigan, especially many small airports in Northern MI. In the future its possible for seasonal or year-round Saab service to MSP.
Type-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
NW owns Michigan, especially many small airports in Northern MI......
".....but it seems they also took over Wisconsin and Minnesota
They got most of these routes through the buyout of RC. Almost all of these were old NC routes. Appleton, Menominee Falls, Green Bay, Ironwood. All former "Route of the Northliners". Herman was a very popular guy in these parts!
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2878 times:
Almost all of these were old NC routes. Appleton, Menominee Falls, Green Bay, Ironwood.
Menominee Falls??? Thats a suburb of Milwaukee and doesn't have an airport. I'm talkin' places like Wausau, Eau Claire, Appleton, Green Bay, Madison, Milwaukee, Grand Rapids, Flint, Alpena(?), Sault St. Marie, Rochester (MN), etc....
Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.