Wilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1 Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11195 times:
Found this pic of the planned evacuation slides for the A380 (1st pic of a miniature created for the evac-slide manufacturer, see: http://www.pacmin.com/news/news_060603a.html for info, second pic from slide manufacturer)
That will be one hell of a slide from the second deck... anyone know if the second deck 747 slides have ever been succesfully used?
(this thing looks like a waterslide park with a aviation theme)
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4472 posts, RR: 21 Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11032 times:
I would imagine the overwing exits wouldn't be utilized unless absolutely necessary, seeing as they go under the top two slides. Seems like that'd be a real mess in the event that the aircraft was sitting on the ground with the engines and gears having been sheared off by impact.
Also, I wonder what the procedure is for a water evacuation. Will they be leaving the aircraft via the first floor only? I shudder at the thought of riding a rickety slide all the way down to the icy North Atlantic.
LacsaA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10696 times:
I'm concern (as well as maybe other members of a.net) about security proceedings of the A380. This is not a critic about the a/c, but I think that Airbus Industries must be paying a closer attention to this point (don't have any doubt about the professionalism of Airbus people).
The problem is that in an eventual emergency, are the security devices of this a/c "enough"? Hope nobody will be involved in such a terrible situation, but there is always a possibility.
Fallout01 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10654 times:
I'm wondering just HOW that main deck overwing exit gets deployed.
Excerpt from the A380 exit row passenger safety card:
"By sitting in this exit row on the A380 aircraft, you must be advised of the following points in the unlikely event of an emergency:
1) You will be required to rapidly construct the emergency scaffold device and attach it to the inflatable emergency exit slide. A hammer and a sufficient supply of nails is located immediately under your seat. Lumber for the emergency scaffold device is located in the baggage bin immediately above your seat row. Schematics for the emergency scaffold device are posted on pages 133-134 of our in-flight magazine, or are available upon request from a member of the cabin crew.
2) Important! All nails must be used in the construction of the emergency scaffold device! Failure to use all nails may result in an unsafe condition!
3) When attaching the completed emergency scaffold device to the inflatable exit slide DO NOT use any remaing nails to attach the inflatable exit slide to the emergency scaffold device. If you have read and followed the instructions in Step 2) above, you should not have any remaining nails.
4) If time permits, the emergency scaffold device may be primed and painted. Primer, paint, and brushes are located in the forward lower deck galley.
5) In the event of missing lumber, nails, or paint, please see a member of the cabin crew for assistance."
I think I'll just sit up front when I fly on one...
SEAPete From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10523 times:
You know that upper deck is going to be 30-40 feet off the ground. You think that the average person is going to all that thrilled about jumping onto an evacuation slide from up there. Thnk about it... You're sliding off a 4 story building.
Of course if the thing is on fire it's an ovious choice!
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4472 posts, RR: 21 Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10494 times:
I'm wondering just HOW that main deck overwing exit gets deployed.
The A380 overwing exit design is tried and true on other aircraft. It automatically inflates that way...pretty neat.
I'm not saying it's unsafe, just saying I hope someone doesn't panic and try to use that overwing exit in less-than-ideal conditions. I'd hate to slide straight into the side of another evacuation slide...
Caribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1630 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10476 times:
Imagine if the forward landing gear is broken off or the nose of the plane has somehow gone into a ditch or lower area and the tail is high up in the air.. those rear exit slides will be so steep. I guess the same is true for 747 upper deck passengers too if the reverse were to happen and it's not like they could run to the back of the plane to exit out of a door closer to the ground.
Ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10235 times:
How the hell do they plan on releasing the slide from the a/c in a water emergency. Now I know and most of us here know that any a/c small or large will have a heck of a time in a water landing but they do have to show that if it is ever possible that it will work...
Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9981 times:
One of the primary reasons that the 380 is not being approved for more than 550 passengers is the inability to evacuate the aircraft in 90 seconds. This has nothing to do with the slides or number of exits. Apparently, there is a very prevalent 'hesitancy factor' in jumping on the slide from the top deck.
Airbus wisely chose to certify with a lower number initially, than having the embarrassment of failing the drill with a higher pax load.
I would think at some point, they will have push the existing barrier--particularly for Japanese domestic use (if that ever occurs).
Cmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9891 times:
I guarantee if the plane is on fire and your in the upper deck, you will decend the slide. Height or not. I'd rather get a broken arm or leg or risk being trampeled from the many pax's trying to get to the main deck than to die from smoke inhalation or get burns that are much painful than a broken arm or leg.
Just close your eyes on the way down. 10 sec or less you will be on the ground.
Blackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1892 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9795 times:
I put this in a previous thread on the 380 slides. Add speed bumps. I am serious about this. As I look at the picture at the top I think this is just another form of suicide. If I ever fly the 380, and I don't think I will, I will not fly the upper deck.
Cameras shoot pictures. Guns shoot people. They have the guns.
Spyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9776 times:
The posted research by Helmut Jungermann is quite interesting. One of things I believed he mentioned is that since the slides are trapezoidal, clustering at the bottom of the slides can be a problem. They are shaped this way in order to accomodate slides for both decks, but unfortunately this causes issues that go against the study of human factors. The slides are also extremely advanced with a different material being used at the bottom of the slide to slow the passengers down (so they don't go flying into the ground). I also believe Airbus is experimenting with pitch technology so that depending on how the aircraft is positioned, the slides can inflate properly and safely. This also helps accomodate for windy conditions. Sorry I don't have more details on the technology as I'm remembering most of this research off the top of my head.
25 DAirbus: I once went down a 757 slide after it was deployed accidentally (not by me) and it was great fun. The way it is designed, at least on the 757, there a
26 Wilco: save you all some trouble.... the last reply link goes to: