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User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12119 times:

Found this pic of the planned evacuation slides for the A380 (1st pic of a miniature created for the evac-slide manufacturer, see: http://www.pacmin.com/news/news_060603a.html for info, second pic from slide manufacturer)

That will be one hell of a slide from the second deck... anyone know if the second deck 747 slides have ever been succesfully used?

-WILCO

(this thing looks like a waterslide park with a aviation theme)






[Edited 2004-05-28 20:47:52]


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11956 times:

I would imagine the overwing exits wouldn't be utilized unless absolutely necessary, seeing as they go under the top two slides. Seems like that'd be a real mess in the event that the aircraft was sitting on the ground with the engines and gears having been sheared off by impact.

Also, I wonder what the procedure is for a water evacuation. Will they be leaving the aircraft via the first floor only? I shudder at the thought of riding a rickety slide all the way down to the icy North Atlantic.



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User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11856 times:

yeah, that main deck overwing exit is insane.


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User currently offlineFutureUApilot From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1365 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11777 times:

You're all right, that would be an insane over wing evacuation. I think they could make a good amusement park ride off of the A380's evacuation slides!!!


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User currently offlineLacsaA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11620 times:

I'm concern (as well as maybe other members of a.net) about security proceedings of the A380. This is not a critic about the a/c, but I think that Airbus Industries must be paying a closer attention to this point (don't have any doubt about the professionalism of Airbus people).

The problem is that in an eventual emergency, are the security devices of this a/c "enough"? Hope nobody will be involved in such a terrible situation, but there is always a possibility.


User currently offlineFallout01 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11578 times:

Hmmm...

I'm wondering just HOW that main deck overwing exit gets deployed.

Excerpt from the A380 exit row passenger safety card:

"By sitting in this exit row on the A380 aircraft, you must be advised of the following points in the unlikely event of an emergency:

1) You will be required to rapidly construct the emergency scaffold device and attach it to the inflatable emergency exit slide. A hammer and a sufficient supply of nails is located immediately under your seat. Lumber for the emergency scaffold device is located in the baggage bin immediately above your seat row. Schematics for the emergency scaffold device are posted on pages 133-134 of our in-flight magazine, or are available upon request from a member of the cabin crew.

2) Important! All nails must be used in the construction of the emergency scaffold device! Failure to use all nails may result in an unsafe condition!

3) When attaching the completed emergency scaffold device to the inflatable exit slide DO NOT use any remaing nails to attach the inflatable exit slide to the emergency scaffold device. If you have read and followed the instructions in Step 2) above, you should not have any remaining nails.

4) If time permits, the emergency scaffold device may be primed and painted. Primer, paint, and brushes are located in the forward lower deck galley.

5) In the event of missing lumber, nails, or paint, please see a member of the cabin crew for assistance."

I think I'll just sit up front when I fly on one...  Smile


User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11550 times:

I can count 18 evacuation doors, which is 1 for 30 people.

It doesn't sound unsafe to me.


User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11491 times:


And im scared of some water slides- that plane had better be a full-on inferno before i jump down from the top deck!



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User currently offlineSEAPete From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11447 times:

You know that upper deck is going to be 30-40 feet off the ground. You think that the average person is going to all that thrilled about jumping onto an evacuation slide from up there. Thnk about it... You're sliding off a 4 story building.

Of course if the thing is on fire it's an ovious choice! Big grin



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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11446 times:

And im scared of some water slides- that plane had better be a full-on inferno before i jump down from the top deck!

If Airbus have half a brain they'll write "Push me" on the back of the A380 life jackets.


User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11423 times:

I would to see how it would feel jumping out of one of them from the top. Of course, not while in a emergency though.


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User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11418 times:

I'm wondering just HOW that main deck overwing exit gets deployed.

The A380 overwing exit design is tried and true on other aircraft. It automatically inflates that way...pretty neat.

I'm not saying it's unsafe, just saying I hope someone doesn't panic and try to use that overwing exit in less-than-ideal conditions. I'd hate to slide straight into the side of another evacuation slide...



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User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1639 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11400 times:

Imagine if the forward landing gear is broken off or the nose of the plane has somehow gone into a ditch or lower area and the tail is high up in the air.. those rear exit slides will be so steep. I guess the same is true for 747 upper deck passengers too if the reverse were to happen and it's not like they could run to the back of the plane to exit out of a door closer to the ground.

User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11375 times:

someone actually did a study on the PSYCHOLOGY of evacuating the upperdeck of the 380....
http://www.gp.tu-berlin.de/users/j/helmut_jungermann/artikel/atlantic%20city.pdf
-WILCO



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12284 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11359 times:
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I volunteer for the emergency evacuation drill in this baby. And I wanna be on the top floor  Big grin Looks like fun sliding on those!


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User currently offlineFallout01 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11345 times:

If, for whatever reason, I ever find myself in a situation where I have to use an A380's evacuation slides I can assure you that a 30 to 40 foot drop will be the absolute LEAST of my worries.

If anybody in front of me hesitates, stops, or even slows down it'll be just like that first jump at airborne school: I'm goin' through 'em...


User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11233 times:

Here's a shot of the 747-400's upper deck slide in use:

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Brian J. Gore



jeremy


User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11159 times:

How the hell do they plan on releasing the slide from the a/c in a water emergency. Now I know and most of us here know that any a/c small or large will have a heck of a time in a water landing but they do have to show that if it is ever possible that it will work...

UA777222



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User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 11002 times:

What about the friction burns and physical injuries from the slides.

Ruscoe


User currently offlineWilco From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 10940 times:

i'll take friction burn over jetfuelfire burn anyday.

-WILCO



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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 10905 times:

One of the primary reasons that the 380 is not being approved for more than 550 passengers is the inability to evacuate the aircraft in 90 seconds. This has nothing to do with the slides or number of exits. Apparently, there is a very prevalent 'hesitancy factor' in jumping on the slide from the top deck.

Airbus wisely chose to certify with a lower number initially, than having the embarrassment of failing the drill with a higher pax load.

I would think at some point, they will have push the existing barrier--particularly for Japanese domestic use (if that ever occurs).


User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 10817 times:

i'll take friction burn over jetfuelfire burn anyday.

-WILCO

Yes, but I guess the point is this: Are friction burns being built into the equation as an acceptable means of controlling terminal velocity.

Ruscoe


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 10815 times:

I guarantee if the plane is on fire and your in the upper deck, you will decend the slide. Height or not. I'd rather get a broken arm or leg or risk being trampeled from the many pax's trying to get to the main deck than to die from smoke inhalation or get burns that are much painful than a broken arm or leg.

Just close your eyes on the way down. 10 sec or less you will be on the ground.


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10719 times:

I put this in a previous thread on the 380 slides. Add speed bumps. I am serious about this. As I look at the picture at the top I think this is just another form of suicide. If I ever fly the 380, and I don't think I will, I will not fly the upper deck.


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User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10700 times:

The posted research by Helmut Jungermann is quite interesting. One of things I believed he mentioned is that since the slides are trapezoidal, clustering at the bottom of the slides can be a problem. They are shaped this way in order to accomodate slides for both decks, but unfortunately this causes issues that go against the study of human factors. The slides are also extremely advanced with a different material being used at the bottom of the slide to slow the passengers down (so they don't go flying into the ground). I also believe Airbus is experimenting with pitch technology so that depending on how the aircraft is positioned, the slides can inflate properly and safely. This also helps accomodate for windy conditions. Sorry I don't have more details on the technology as I'm remembering most of this research off the top of my head.

25 Post contains links DAirbus : I once went down a 757 slide after it was deployed accidentally (not by me) and it was great fun. The way it is designed, at least on the 757, there a
26 Post contains images Wilco : save you all some trouble.... the last reply link goes to:
27 WidgetBoi : That cartoon says it all! jeremy
28 Gigneil : I put this in a previous thread on the 380 slides. Add speed bumps. I am serious about this. As I look at the picture at the top I think this is just
29 Post contains links Wilco : Here's a link to a FAA powerpoint presentation about the A380 slides... there are a few cool sketches that compare the A380 slides in comparison to th
30 StearmanNut : What a long way to slide! Might burn a hole through your breeches or panty hose before you get to the bottom. Not to mention the possiblity of first a
31 DAirbus : Thanks for posting the strip Wilco. I bow to your superior technical knowledge.
32 Wilco : DAIRBUS.... and I bow to your searching skills... finding a comic strip that is directly related to the post "A380 Evacuation Slides" is truly a gift.
33 Post contains images Espion007 : Well, if the damn plane is on fire, the top deck slides is the least of my worries. Ive seen video of a guy jump 4 stories from a burning building wit
34 Post contains links DAirbus : Wilco I have been reading this strip on a regular basis for a couple years. The author is an ERAU grad who started the strip in the school paper about
35 CessnaLady : If an A380, a true Lord of the Skies, ever gets in a situation in which slides have to be deployed... I couldn't care less about fear of heights, burn
36 Eddieho : ENGINES: Is there a danger that the slides are pretty close to the engines (and the engines are very big)? eddieho
37 Cx123 : That Slide from the upper deck seems to be pretty steep?? You might as well just jump out of the aircraft?? hahaha I remember QF had an incident last
38 Post contains links and images Ants : Goodrich are manufacturing the evacuation slides for the A380. Here's a picture of a prototype slide for the upper deck being tested. To see a big ver
39 TKMCE : Having participated in one of the many evacuation trials which are being held using A 380 cabin simulators, I can tell you jumping from the top deck c
40 Post contains images Leezyjet : "Also, I wonder what the procedure is for a water evacuation. Will they be leaving the aircraft via the first floor only? I shudder at the thought of
41 Post contains links and images FL350 : An a/c has never been sucessfully ditched in the sea yet, well not in the way the safety card shows anyway. View Large View MediumPhoto © Craig D
42 Boo25 : I can't see a problem , Put into perspective , after all the millions of hours , hundreds of 747s have flown, how many people have had to evacuate fro
43 LacsaA320 : I'm also concern about the possible event of evacuation of older people, as well as handicapped ones and children. I know is basically the same situat
44 Post contains links N863DA : Just to correct one misconception: "An a/c has never been sucessfully ditched in the sea yet, well not in the way the safety card shows anyway." On Ma
45 Sammyhostie : Just imagine having to learn the A380 safety equipment diagram by heart! I thought the A330 was hard! [Edited 2004-05-30 09:27:48]
46 AirframeAS : Another question is how are they going to stuff that upper deck safety slide into the slide deployment box that can fit the lower part of the door?? T
47 Post contains links and images VirginFlyer : AirframeAS - I was under the impression that the upper deck slides will be stored in compartments under the door, visible in these photos: View Large
48 Sammyhostie : The slides on all a/c are stored in the "bustle of the door", which is the lare box that sticks out from the door inside the a/c. When the door is arm
49 AirframeAS : Im not questioning where they will be stored. I am questioning about the SIZE of the slides. How on earth are they going to fit the slides on the uppe
50 StefanDotDe : Sorry to say that, guys, but the 90 seconds rule is also valid for the 380 - so I don't have any words for the 380 bashing , just : Boeing-Nightmare!
51 JMChladek : Folding the slides in shouldn't be a problem, but I doubt it can be done by a maintenance crew if one does get deployed. More then likely, I would exp
52 Post contains images Crosswind : As VirginFlyer correctly said, The slides on upper deck of the A380 will be stored in compartments within the fuselage, under the door. This will mean
53 Jc2354 : When I went through recurrent one year, we got to participate in an upper deck evacuation of a 747-200. Scared the living daylights (and more) out of
54 Wilco : I'm curious about the details of slide deployment (slides in general, not just 380). How long does the slide stay inflated after being deployed? Is it
55 Ha763 : The slides have air tanks for inflation and will not deflate unless punctured or manually deflated. However, they will slowly lose air, like a balloon
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