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Question About Flying On New Passports?  
User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Hi there,

Up until Jan 2004 I didn't have my own GB Passport.

In April 2004 I was at LHR flying to LAX with my good friend Chris Sharps. We were just about to go through the gate and when they put my ticket into the machine it made a beep and they told me to wait to one side.

They took my passport and done something on their system which involved them swiping the strip full of letters and numbers that is usually found at the bottom of the photo page through a reader of some kind?!

Does anyone have any ideas why this may have been?

Many thanks for the help,

Regards,

Justin  Smile

PS: Here's a shot of me waiting looking VERY unimpressed  Big thumbs up Cheers Chris!



Kinda got my hands in my trouser pockets starting at these people pissing about with my passport! I was NOT HAPPY!  Laugh out loud

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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2729 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

All I can say is:

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!

Simon  Big grin



Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

By goodness I recognize that area! Its T3! Gate 50.3 million!

Dashing, Justin, dashing!

They always swipe my passport, AFTER the flight, not before! No clue really!

Cheers,
VS346

[Edited 2004-05-29 09:57:51]


Virgin-Atlantic: More experience than our name suggests
User currently offlineSenliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

There are three people in the picture, which one are you? The blonde?  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Are You that old man on the right side of the pic? Your profile states a different age... Laugh out loud



Putana da Seatbeltz!
User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Ahem, NO!

I am the handsome one in the white shirt FOOL  Laugh out loud

Justin  Big grin


User currently offlineVS346 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 339 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Hey the lady, isn't that bad looking really!

This thread prompted me to read your trip reports. Great reads!

I'll be flying MAN-LHR may 31. BMI as well. Wish me luck!  Big thumbs up

Cheers,
VS346



Virgin-Atlantic: More experience than our name suggests
User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

Jkw777, well, I somehow was wrong then...lol... Big grin


Putana da Seatbeltz!
User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Does anyone have any ideas why this may have been?

The reason why they do this is because all visitors to the USA must have machine readable passports. If you don't have a machine readable passport you'll be deported at the airlines expense plus the airline will get a fine (and if it happens too often they may revoke the route license). They sometimes swipe your passport at check-in and if it doesn't work (the machine can't read your passport) they usually deny you on the flight. Last year, my friend was almost denied on a AKL-LAX flight because the machine at check-in couldn't read his passport. Fortunately it worked on another machine but he was told not to put his passport in his pocket as it may get wet during the flight.

Other airlines swipe the passport at the gate and some (Air New Zealand at LHR) clearly like to swipe passports as my passport was swiped once at the transfer desk and again at the gate.






User currently offlineCorpsnerd09 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Some exceptions to this rule LJ kindly pointed out:

Canada, The Bahamas, and Japan.

The U.S. allows people from these nations to enter without machine readable passports.

[Edited 2004-05-29 11:23:41]


If you really want to do it, you will find a way; if you don't, you'll make excuses.
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

The reason why they do this is because all visitors to the USA must have machine readable passports

Absolute nonsense.

A MRP is only required to participate in the VWP program. All other visitors are absolutely permitted to travel on non-MRP passports.

The actual reason they did this was because of the APIS (Advance Passenger Information System) upload that the airline is required to make within 1 hour of the flight departure inbound to the United States. This alerts the US to the identities of passengers incoming and allows them to focus on any specific names that may raise flags. Since your passport was new, they did not have your data in the system yet (regular travelers for example have their passport details kept on file or in their frequent flyer profile) and they swiped the MRP strip through an optical reader to capture that data for upload.

Similar APIS systems are used for passengers traveling to/from the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and New Zealand - although the US system is by far the most comprehensive and arguably among the least effective.


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2610 times:

How could you possibly look unimpressed with that blonde right there? I would have let the gate agent fiddle with the passport while I tried to fiddle around with that blonde while I waited!  Big grin



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