Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7872 times:
not a bad question, i assumed it was just a number in sequence but i never really knew. Remember this forum is about asking questions and getting answers, it's not for the aviation "elite" to pick on people who don't know as much as they do. don't be so quick to jump on people who don't appear to be as "smart" as you *know* you are....
Levg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 7742 times:
Retiring numbers is one thing, but other companies still use these numbers. For example, when we talk about flight 800, we always remember TWA 800 that crashed out of JFK. However, United still uses flight 800 operating to JFK, kind of ironic. I flew on that flight last month, and every time I've heard '800 heavy' on channel 9, I always remembered TWA flight.
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Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 7690 times:
Something that was barely mentioned in the other thread was codeshares. Different airlines seem to use different schemes for identifying codeshares. For example, VS 19 (LHR-SFO) is CO 8239 (no apparent correlation, but from another flight it appears to be VS+8220), but CO 19 (LGW-EWR) is VS 3119 (easy, ie 31 prefix).
SQ 317 (LHR-SIN) = VS 7317
BA 15 (LHR-SIN) = QF 320
QF 10 (LHR-SIN) = BA 7310
Probably some correlation, such as partner airline and so forth.
CessnaLady From Mexico, joined May 2004, 312 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7626 times:
Bottomline: there is nothing like an international regulation governing flights' nomeclature... It is a style or system pertinent to each airline...
I just read that Mexicana, one of the oldest airlines in the world, will re-start its flights between Mexico City and Newark as MX 001 and MX 002 (return).
A retired MX Captain friend of my family tells me many in the industry consider MX 900 (Mexico City - Los Angeles) to be the flagship service of this old airline. (MX is 83 years old; she started flying in July 1921 with the first scheduled service in Latin America, between Mexico City and Tampico - with a scheduled flight that still exists to this day as MX 740, due its departure schedule was 07:40 AM).
InnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7602 times:
There ARE no rules beyond designating RANGES of numbers for certain types of flights (e.g. 1-100 = international, 4000-5999 is regionals, etc.) and special numbers (e.g. #1 for a banner flight, #1776 for a PHL flight, etc.). Some airlines do even numbers for inbound and odd for outbound or even=west, odd=east. After that, it's just "grab an available number in the range". Don't burn so many calories trying to figure it out... it just kinda is.
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FL1TPA From United States of America, joined May 2004, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7590 times:
There is an odd pattern in AirTran's flight numbers. Most of the numbers between original Valujet cities remained the same. New cities got a new "group" of numbers. For example: (Not in order of departure time)
TPA-ATL: 118 / 120 / 122 / 124 / 126 / 128 / 130 / 132 / 138
ATL-TPA: 121 / 125 / 127 / 131 / 137 / 139 /
ALL 32 of BWI flight numbers except for CRJ flights and the flight to FPO begin with a 4: 443 / 450 / 483 / 413 / 451 / 444 / 495 / 461 / 484 / 493 etc.
All flights into IAD are double digits: 58 / 62 / 64 / 66 / 68
MKE flights all begin with 6: 601 / 603 / 608 / 625 / 671
DCA flights are all 18s: 181 / 183 / 185 / 187 / 189
BUF has 55s: 551 / 555 / 553 / 559 etc.
I don't know by what rhyme or reason flight numbers are chosen, other than to stay away from different carriers with the same numbers at the same airport.
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Josegsd From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 7553 times:
I believe United Airlines uses 800-series flight numbers for their trans-Pacific flights and 900-series for those across the Atlantic.
Virgin Atlantic also has a scheme. Flight numbers to 199 are for flights to/from North America. 600-series flights are to Africa. China (inc. Hong Kong) have 200-series flight numbers. India flights are 300 and Japan has 900.
I've noticed other airlines also use blocks of flight numbers to certain regions i.e. North America, Europe, etc.
I'm not sure of the reasoning behind it, but there is some structure out there.
MSPXJGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 150 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 7542 times:
Although I don't know exactly how airlines come up with flight numbers, I do know there are some fun ones that Northwest has.
For instance, I know there is a Indianapolis flight 500 for the Indy 500. Columus has flt 1492 (Christopher Columbus sailed the Ocean Blue). Most passengers don't understand that, but when your bored, it can be amusing. I don't know if these are still around but i'm sure they are.
Another addition to this topic is Northwest likes switchin the flight numbers with different cities. I remember when I started MSP-YQR was always 3571. Now its something different, I think either DSM or LSE.
Flairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7412 times:
i think delta is random (first 3 flights are 958, 1531, and 395!) ...continental (at least from FLL-IAH and EWR) are interesting...to IAH they all end in 49...I think from IAH they end in 48
TO EWR they end in 00 (except for CO24)...they end in 01 going back from EWR.
Iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3754 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7345 times:
While not true in every case, CO assigns each route a two digit code: IAHMSY is '23' (623, 423, 1023, etc..) MSYIAH is '22', IAHLGA/LGAIAH are '32/33', CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO is '86/87', TPA is '06/07', etc... There are exceptions all over the place, but if one looks at the full day's schedule for most routes, the pattern is very obvious.
XJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2511 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (11 years 11 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7289 times:
In TOL, NW Airlink has an afternoon flight 2960 that hasn't changed in years. Every other flight number has changed so many times. When I worked there it had to change at least 10-15 times and I was only there for 8 months.