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1st A318 Jumpseat Pic-AF Captain's Views On A.net  
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Hey all,
It looks I beat everyone to the 1st A318 revenue service jumpseat pic, thanks again to a wonderful AF flightcrew  Big thumbs up

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Photo © William Ronciere


That prompted an email from an AF senior Captain on photographers and a.net in general.
To make a long story short :
1) Jumpseats are still allowed on AF, but only if you're a pilot/aircrew/airline employee with credentials.
2) Pictures must be dicussed beforehand with the crew.
3) Please refrain from showing "inappropriate" situations, i.e anything that deviates from normal procedures.
4) Please refrain from writing "negative" or inaccurate comments in the comment field.
5) If possible, blank out the registration on the panel (see pic).

The Captain also advised me that an internal memo concerning a.net jumpseaters had circulated in the airline, stating that these were still legal and allowed at the Captain's discretion, but that restraint will have to be exercised in the future.
So If we still want to enjoy the ride upfront in one of the last airlines that allow it, let's follow these guidelines.

UTA

[Edited 2004-05-31 11:33:50]


Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3369 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?

Other than that, it's a great pic!



Attamottamotta!
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?

This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?
 Laugh out loud

UTA



Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

Thats awesome that we can still do the jumpseat on AF. But the question begs to be asked with the Rule of Airline Crew,Employee or pilot do we circumvent that rule for being A.net photographers? Just a question



Sean from MCO



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User currently offlineMSPXJGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 150 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3288 times:

Kind of curious, on larger aircraft are non-revs allowed to sit in unused jump seats? For instance if I wanted to fly AF somewhere and the only seats available was a unused jump seat would i be able to sit in it? Would i have to be part of the crew or would a CSA count? Just curious on different airlines policies.

User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

The rule concerning traveling on a Jumpseat on AF is simple :

Any airline staff or relative, traveling with an ID Ticket can apply for a jumpseat, if the cabin is full.

The jumpseats on a plane "belongs" to the Captain. He and only HE can decide if he wants (or not) to take somebody on a jumpseat, and who he is going to take.

This rule is the same on short, medium and long-haul.

Most Captain accept visits in the cockpit from children or private pilots, or people who have a job dealing with aviation.


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

Wohoo, then i have good chances to get in with my Pilot Licence?  Smile

Nah, i have another special trick to get there  Wink/being sarcastic

BTW: The topic should get deleted for badselfplug  Laugh out loud just kidding, nice image William!

regards, Florian

EDIT: Can you tell me what ISO setting you used? Last time I was on a JS flight ( May8th, A320 ) I used ISO800 to make the LCD screens visible... but now they're not A.net quality in large size...  Sad

Thanks!

[Edited 2004-06-02 12:20:54]


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User currently offlineDoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

What a nice policy! The airline I work for will not allow anyone in the jumpseat for landing/takeoff.

User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

5) If possible, blank out the registration on the panel (see pic).

Now, if that is not some shameful plugging !!!  Big thumbs up

707


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Florian, you should conme fly with us in Elbonia someday, as you are ysed to the mountains :

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © William Ronciere
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © William Ronciere


As for the camera settings, I used my trusty PowerShot G5 as my DSLR was on holidays.
Settings ? P mode and fill-in flash  Smile (no kidding !)

Cheers,
Will



Fly to live, live to fly - Air France/KLM Flying Blue Platinum, BMI Diamond Club Gold, Emirates Skywards
User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2485 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

That A318 photo is badlevel! The easiest and best instrument is available to detect badlevel, and there are even three of them!

Great photo William Big thumbs up

PW100



Immigration officer: "What's the purpose of your visit to the USA?" Spotter: "Shooting airliners with my Canon!"
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

What a nice policy! The airline I work for will not allow anyone in the jumpseat for landing/takeoff.

Since September 11th, the CAA has banned flight deck visits in flight.


User currently offlineDoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

I was actually referring to the fact that the airline won't allow staff to remain in the flightdeck for landing or take-off unless we have a 4th crewmember aboard.



User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?


If you have ATC records, you can look at the clock which is clearly visible and then also the approximate location of the aircraft according to the map.


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