That prompted an email from an AF senior Captain on photographers and a.net in general.
To make a long story short :
1) Jumpseats are still allowed on AF, but only if you're a pilot/aircrew/airline employee with credentials.
2) Pictures must be dicussed beforehand with the crew.
3) Please refrain from showing "inappropriate" situations, i.e anything that deviates from normal procedures.
4) Please refrain from writing "negative" or inaccurate comments in the comment field.
5) If possible, blank out the registration on the panel (see pic).
The Captain also advised me that an internal memo concerning a.net jumpseaters had circulated in the airline, stating that these were still legal and allowed at the Captain's discretion, but that restraint will have to be exercised in the future.
So If we still want to enjoy the ride upfront in one of the last airlines that allow it, let's follow these guidelines.
UTA
[Edited 2004-05-31 11:33:50]
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Petertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3239 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?
UTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2631 times:
Maybe a silly question, but is it really the intention to blanc out the registration on the flight deck.... only to add it in the photo details? Kind a defeats the purpose I'd say?
This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?
UTA
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FutureFO From New Caledonia, joined Oct 2001, 3096 posts, RR: 23 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
Thats awesome that we can still do the jumpseat on AF. But the question begs to be asked with the Rule of Airline Crew,Employee or pilot do we circumvent that rule for being A.net photographers? Just a question
MSPXJGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 150 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
Kind of curious, on larger aircraft are non-revs allowed to sit in unused jump seats? For instance if I wanted to fly AF somewhere and the only seats available was a unused jump seat would i be able to sit in it? Would i have to be part of the crew or would a CSA count? Just curious on different airlines policies.
FLYSSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2080 times:
The rule concerning traveling on a Jumpseat on AF is simple :
Any airline staff or relative, traveling with an ID Ticket can apply for a jumpseat, if the cabin is full.
The jumpseats on a plane "belongs" to the Captain. He and only HE can decide if he wants (or not) to take somebody on a jumpseat, and who he is going to take.
This rule is the same on short, medium and long-haul.
Most Captain accept visits in the cockpit from children or private pilots, or people who have a job dealing with aviation.
INNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 62 Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
Wohoo, then i have good chances to get in with my Pilot Licence?
Nah, i have another special trick to get there
BTW: The topic should get deleted for badselfplug just kidding, nice image William!
regards, Florian
EDIT: Can you tell me what ISO setting you used? Last time I was on a JS flight ( May8th, A320 ) I used ISO800 to make the LCD screens visible... but now they're not A.net quality in large size...
DoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1494 times:
I was actually referring to the fact that the airline won't allow staff to remain in the flightdeck for landing or take-off unless we have a 4th crewmember aboard.
Fritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1465 times:
This way there's no photographic evidence that can or could be used.
How do you know for sure ?
If you have ATC records, you can look at the clock which is clearly visible and then also the approximate location of the aircraft according to the map.
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