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User currently offlineBOAC707 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 278 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

The following article appeared today on YYZNews:

e)...effective tomorrow, June 1st Air Canada Cargo is getting back into the pure freighter business to a degree with a new scheduled weekday trans-continental service. The flights will depart Toronto at 0630 with a Boeing 727-200F wet-leased from All Canada Express and fly non-stop to Calgary, then on to Vancouver. The return flight will operate non-stop from Vancouver to Toronto arriving back at 1830hrs on a Tu/We/Th/Fr basis only for now.


Any chance of a nostalgic appearance of a 727 in AirCanada livery?

I also think this is the start of something bigger. There is still rumours of a similar arrangement with Atlas for inter continental flights.



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User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

It will be ACA's own 74F's, Atlas will be interim....


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineBOAC707 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Slawko;

Where did you here that? I am pretty close to Cargo Ops in YUL and they are still saying Atlas for the foreseeable future.



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User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

Wait and see what the details of the new pilot agreement are. Milty is getting his freighters...  Smile


"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 1562 times:

This has been talked about a lot at AC. In fact, last year AC was supposed to have Atlas 747's flying to Hong Kong from Toronto, but that never materialized. Only time will tell really, but I'd like to see the re-emergence of Air Canada Cargo once again.


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26022 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 1543 times:

Yes, late last summer Air Canada got very close to leasing an Atlas 747 for Hong Kong services from Toronto, however my understanding was that this deal was killed based on the rejection by the pilots union.

Maybe the plan is possible now based on agreements that have been reached between the unions and company during the bankruptcy process.



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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 1508 times:

So, thanks to AC, it looks like ACE gets another extension on it's lease on life. Can ya sense the irony here, folks?
I wonder what were the reasons for Air Canada getting out of dedicated freight operations?

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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

I wonder what were the reasons for Air Canada getting out of dedicated freight operations?

The 6 DC-8-73F's were used almost exclusively for Purolator. When that contract ended, AC retired the DC-8's.

AC still owns 2 742Combi's which could be converted to cargo. These have been in storage for several years.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSlawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

I imagine the cost of converting, re-fitting and operating a 742 that has been sitting in the sand for almost 10 years are much higher then getting an almost new 74F, or converting some of the 762's that they have just parked.




"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Perhaps Slawko. As Combi's they are half-converted already effectively. They remain for sale by AC and I presume in airworthiness state.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineWjv04 From Canada, joined Jun 2001, 584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

One dedicated cargo route, doesnt mean anything for Air Canada getting back in to the dedicated cargo bussiness. Its also a Wet Lease remember.
From what I heard is Air Canada doesnt have enough belly space on there aircraft for these routes, so they are having ACE fly it for them.


User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

I think the reason for the wet lease is because there are no wide bodies operating out of YYC for the summer sked domestically. Alot of cargo was moved on the 2 B767s to YYZ and the B767 to YVR daily.

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