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Atlantic Coast's J41s  
User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

I looked at UA's June schedule and a lot of ACA's J41 are being taken off routes as of today, June 2. Is this the beginning of their removal from the fleet? Or, is this just a schedule change for the summer?

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User currently offlineJcooke From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 81 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

I think I read they're starting to take some of the J41's out of service. I would definitely not be sad to see these go.  Smile

-JC


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

They are slowly being phased out and retired to make way for further RJ's and the A319/320's that they will be getting a couple of months.


Sean from MCO



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Saab 340's should be comming online anytime now as United Express to replace the J41's

-m


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

The SF34's are operated by Shuttle America not ACA.



Sean from MCO



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

Very true FO...very true

-m


User currently offlineKingGeo3 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

I would definitely not be sad to see these go

How could you say this about the J41? Honestly, my best flights in a turboprop have been on the J41! But to put that in perspective, all the other turboprop flights have been in B1900s!

Have a great evening everyone.

-KG3



Nobody respects me . . . :(
User currently offlineFlyKCRW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Today (06/02) is to be the final day of service for all but 5 of the J41s. 35 ACA aircraft are scheduled to be WFU tomorrow...CRJs bound for the paintshop and I-Air service, J41s to a storage facility.

J41 was fun to fly as a pilot. As a passenger, it sucks beyond all description.





User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

I for one will not miss the Junkstreams! Loud & extremely cramped. It looks like today was the last day for them ROC-IAD . Good! The J31 was no better.


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

its funny how they consider a saab an "upgrade". lol

User currently offlineFlyKCRW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

It's better than the 41 in that the cabin is wider and it has overhead bins. I think it also has that big row of seats in the very back, but maybe I'm thinking of the Brasilia or Dash 8. Anyway, I'm pretty sure they are A model 340s so expect lots of weight restrictions. (maybe even worse than the J41)

User currently offlineFallout01 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

In a weird sort of way, I really liked the J31. I never got to fly on the J41, but in the mid 90's for almost three years straight I flew on J31's twice a week from my local airport, and it got to the point where I was on a first name basis with the crews. I started bringing my headset with me and if the a/c wasn't full, I'd move up to the front seats and they'd plug me in. That was a treat, and the ride on the J31 was almost always the best part of my trips...certainly the most interesting!

I guess those kinds of opportunities are gone forever now.

I hope all those guys are flying RJ's now, or have moved up to mainline...they were about the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

I had the opportunity to fly ACA's J41s back in January, on a very crappy day weatherwise at IAD. Personally I liked the close quarters and the chance to be a bit more personal and chatty with the crew. Granted bigger seats, overhead bins, and a quieter cabin would be nice. But for a lot of the markets that ACA served from IAD, the J41 was the only and best way to go.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

"Today (06/02) is to be the final day of service for all but 5 of the J41s. 35 ACA aircraft are scheduled to be WFU tomorrow...CRJs bound for the paintshop and I-Air service, J41s to a storage facility. "

BLECH. I just *love* how they're still serving my base with the J41s, thank the lordy for AWAC's CRJs on the way... But to be quite honest, DesertJets is right... there are some markets for which the J41 was the only feasible option.


User currently offlineFlyKCRW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Yes, indeed the J41 is a POS from the standpoint of the passenger. (I commute(d) on them, nobody knows this more than myself.)

It's good at what it was designed to do...segments of 300 mi. or less. Performance was reasonable as long as ambient temps weren't too high or there was no need for ice protection. It is/was fairly fast...if I remember right about 280 KTAS. I think only the Brasilia and D-328 cruise faster. During it's better days, it was relatively MX-free. Those days are long gone. Pretty cheap to operate as well...it seats 29 but I believe break-even was around 9.

I enjoyed flying the J41, but I sure as hell won't miss commuting on it.


User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

I booked a business trip to State College, PA for June 6-9 a long time ago and I specifically wanted the J41's out of IAD because I have never been on one. A few weeks ago, I noticed the flights were changed to Shuttle America Saab 340's. I'm a little bit disappointed...

Mark



A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man...
User currently offlineSjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Mark:

Don't be =)


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

I will not forget my last junkstream flight.... Aug 02,GSO-IAD. After boarding,props begin to turn,and turn. Then stop. Cap't comes on and says a warning lite came on,we'll have to wait 3 minutes and restart...In August North Carolina heat & humidity in a filled to capacity plane....Not fun....
I had a MUCH better time on the flight down,IAD was all messed up with t-storms so when I checked in for my UA flight I was offered a transfer to another airline,but only DL would give me my miles. So I took the Delta flight on 2 727's thru ATL ! Much better flight than the 2 J41's I would have taken on UA  Smile



'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

I used to live in CHO, where I could easily non-rev on the J41s and J31s. At one point there were 10-15 of them a day... Does anyone know who will be picking up the IAD-CHO route for UA Express ? and with what aircraft?

Many thanks,
-Philzy



Save a horse! Ride a Cowboy!
User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

The first five retired J41's are flying to PQI for storage right now...if any of you have any ASD programs their idents are BLR99xx. I believe another 10 or so are skd to fly up there today too.



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