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Questions On The A340-500/600  
User currently offlineCO737800 From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 545 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 5852 times:

I was wonder how sales are doing for the 500 and 600? Also how do airlines that operate them like the a/c? I have seen the 600 in YVR a few times and it looks like a great a/c

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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

I was wonder how sales are doing for the 500 and 600?

A346 has a slight lead over the 773ER, which is rather pathetic as it's been available twice as long (it lost it's lead for over a year at that).

A345 remains far ahead of the 772LR in number of units ordered, though it should be noted that the overwhelming majority of those orders were placed when it was the only C-market aircraft available. The Airbus has only been able to secure a single new customer (TG) in the four years since the launch of its twinjet competitor.


User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

Based on favorable reviews I've read recently on the 777-300ER's performance and economics, it seems reasonable that it and its 777-200LR stablemate can soon pull even with the A345/6, provided that pricings of the Boeings aren't too much higher. Even with a slightly higher price, however, it can probably stay in the hunt; reviews in AS&ST and FI have been resoundingly positive.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

provided that pricings of the Boeings aren't too much higher.

...they list significantly higher than the Airbuses, despite Boeing's [superficial] lowering.


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

Both 345 & 346 is leading the orders, just look at www.airbus.com,
CO737800! (22 of A345 & 84 of A346 right now)
Thats what makes C-boy so upset  Big grin Chill out........

Mike//SE  Big thumbs up



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

Michael, he doesn't sound all that upset, to me. And he has a point, despite years of lead time AND a significantly lower price, the A346 only has a nominal lead over the 773ER, one that Boeing could erase with only a couple of significant orders. The A345 DOES have a big lead over the 772LR but remember, that model was put on hold for 18 months before development resumed fairly recently. That model, too, could close much of the gap with only a couple of significant orders and anyway, the C market isn't very big.

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

Of course, everything C-boy say is right and true  Insane
Im just giving the guy (CO737800) facts about the orders for 345/6, is that so wrong, and C-boy called it "rather pathetic"! Sounds to me that C-boy is a humongus loooser, cant stand Airbus as we all know, bla bla bla bla....
I´m outta here  Sad

Michael//SE



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 970 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

Sounds to me that C-boy is a humongus loooser, cant stand Airbus as we all know, bla bla bla bla....
I´m outta here


Will you maintain that attitude if SQ buys 773ERs in bulk and considers swapping their A345s for 772LRs? Just curious thats all...

Of course, everything C-boy say is right and true

Again, just curious, but have you ever said anything meaningful? I mean, ever? It seems like I could track down 1222 short quips about Airbus superiority in the face of blatantly opposing facts....


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 5684 times:

Sounds to me that C-boy is a humongus loooser, cant stand Airbus as we all know, bla bla bla bla....
I´m outta here


Jesus christ, shut up. Please dear Darwin shut up.

N


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 13 hours ago) and read 5680 times:

1222 short quips? Woow, somebody´s being working......
So what, as long as we can argue wich "plant" is the best, is that alright with me! Guess its the same for you?
I dont care if SIA swap from A to B, but I will get dissipointed with them!
Airbus superiority?? I never called Airbus superior than Boeing, but I think its a great and bold move of the Europeans to challance the big B and succed!!
Even you must be thinking how boring it would be with only Boeings buzzing around airports  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
I like Boeing.....i really do, exept WalMarts 736 but I think you know that.
U can call me what you like, but I stand for what I´m saying:
Vive la diffrencé  Big thumbs up

Mike//SE



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months ago) and read 5515 times:

cant stand Airbus as we all know

"we"?
...hate to break this to you, but most members here can read the first eight letters of my screen name  Big grin




I dont care if SIA swap from A to B, but I will get dissipointed with them!

...the thought of which I'm sure Dr. Cheong is sh!tting his pants over  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months ago) and read 5486 times:

since when was Concorde called the Airbus A350 Concorde

Solnablo has got a point there, although not very maturely argued. After a simple question was asked you lot have instantly bashed the A340ng's. Even though more are on order/delivered. So what if the A345 was out earlier, so what if the Airbus is cheaper (190m vrs 215m), business is business. If you're sure that you're beloved 777NG's are going to outsell the A340NG's you should sit back with a quiet confidence and laugh louder when/if the time comes.


User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1863 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months ago) and read 5464 times:


...the thought of which I'm sure Dr. Cheong is sh!tting his pants over


I don't think he will. He's retired if I'm not mistaken.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months ago) and read 5453 times:

Dunno.

Guess we'd have to consult Aerospatiale/BAe for that answer... oh wait, they're Airbus now  Yeah sure


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months ago) and read 5428 times:

Well that's settled then, Concorde is an Airbus aircraft  Nuts . I shall look forward to arguing that next time somebody starts telling me Airbus make inefficient and poor plane, and also that Airbus PR make such a big deal about their products. Such a big deal i couldnt even find Concorde on their website.

[Edited 2004-06-03 18:03:26]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5346 times:

Concorde's existance as a de facto Airbus is no different than the 717's as a Boeing

...it's really not that tough of a concept  Big grin


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

Not really

The Boeing 717 is officially a Boeing plane, Concorde is not officially an Airbus plane.

Simple as that.


User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

Aerospatiale/BAe are not part of Airbus......the Airbus part was taken out to form Airbus France and Airbus UK.

Aerospatiale/BAe still remain....


User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1863 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5280 times:

Hmmm...

Aerospatiale still remains? I beg to differ  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineWidebody From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 1152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

My apologies, EADS.

Point remains above for ConcordeBoy, Concorde was built by the old BAE and old Aerospatiale, with Aerospatiale now owned by EADS. EADS also controls Airbus. No real link to Concorde except through founding companies.
717 is a completely different concept.


User currently offlineGlobetrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

ConcordeBoy kind a has a point. Though not quite directly as the 717, Concorde is an Airbus aircraft in a sort of twisted way, if you know what I mean.

GT.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5037 times:

No real link to Concorde except through founding companies

...there's also the rather small & minute issue of Airbus providing Concorde's parts/spares/maintenance  Big grin


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Of course, the Concorde was NOT a Boeing aircraft  Big grin
BTW... I still no find any info about the B777-300ER at Boeing web site.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 970 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5004 times:

BTW... I still no find any info about the B777-300ER at Boeing web site.

Well then, here you go-

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/flash.html

http://www.boeing.com/assocproducts/aircompat/777.htm

Edit, here's another few Boeing websites-

http://www.newairplane.com/777/wt/usa/default.asp?pg=777



[Edited 2004-06-04 00:31:23]

User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4958 times:

Thanks Dfw....
But it's curious... still is the A346 with a higher in max. take off weight (804.700 lb/ 365.000 kg vs 750.000lb/ 340.195 kg) I thought the heaviest plane currently was the 773ER.... anyway... it's the same.This summer I will go to JFK from CDG in the newest AF's plane with a friend of mine who is an AF- emp; but before I will try it with the IB's A346.I promise to be honest and sincere. I'll say my real opinion of both planes.


25 Post contains links and images ConcordeBoy : I still no find any info about the B777-300ER at Boeing web site. I dont see how you could so easily miss it, as (unlike most models featured therein)
26 NWDC10 : Let's say pax capacity is exactally the same. What has the LOWEST cost/seat mile? A340-500/B777-200ER. A340-600/B777-300ER. Robert NWDC10
27 ConcordeBoy : There's still plenty of other factors to take into consideration. And BTW, the A345 competes with the 772LR, not -ER.
28 Widebody : Airbus has a separate department that deals with spares/customer support for its founding companies legacy aircraft, for the simple reason that they h
29 Post contains images Anxebla : C-boy... you know per-fec-tly that AN225 is not a pax. aircraft By the way.... Boeing only shows its 773 in technical specifications, no info about th
30 Dynkrisolo : Boeing only shows its 773 in technical specifications, no info about the 773ER's They do show 773ER info. It's a few clicks away from the links provi
31 Anxebla : I'm sorry, Dyn, but really I can't find the info about B777-300ER in "technical specifications".Are you sure this info is provided at Boeing's web-sit
32 Post contains links and images ConcordeBoy : you know per-fec-tly that AN225 is not a pax. aircraft quite, but I also know that you didn't specify pax aircraft in your above statement either Boei
33 Post contains links DfwRevolution : I'm sorry, Dyn, but really I can't find the info about B777-300ER in "technical specifications".Are you sure this info is provided at Boeing's web-sit
34 Post contains links Dynkrisolo : Or something with slightly less details: click http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/777technical.html click technical specs click characteristic
35 Post contains images Anxebla : OK!!! Thank you very much, friends Now, I have it
36 767-332ER : Just want to make a quick note here about Roberta's mentioning that the 717 is an official Boeing a/c...mmm...the 717 comes directly from the work and
37 AirxLiban : i was under the impression that BAe still existed as an independent entity...is this not the case?
38 Roberta : Just want to make a quick note here about Roberta's mentioning that the 717 is an official Boeing a/c...mmm...the 717 comes directly from the work and
39 767-332ER : Roberta, based on your argument, please explain what Boeing has added that McDD had not designed or planned for the aircraft? The people who worked o
40 N328KF : AirxLiban: They do. In essence, they sold their civil operations to Airbus in exchange for a 20% stake. BAe still exists for military hardware.
41 Gigneil : Boeing rearchitected 13 major systems on the 717. It ain't your granddad's DC-9 anymore. N
42 Venezuela747 : can anyone make me a list of the carriers that operate both the -600 and -500 and those that will take delivery of them? ( i can only think of VS, SQ,
43 AirxLiban : Heres my amateur list from memory A340-500 operators Emirates Singapore On order: Air Canada (I believe) A340-600 operators Iberia South African Lufth
44 ZK-NBT : Cathay Pacific also operate the A340-600! Thai have ordered both the A340-500 and 600.
45 TrevD : Roberta and Gigneil are right about this. Shortly after the Boeing/MDD merger a design review was done for the MD95/717 to introduce systems/component
46 Osteogenesis : ConcordeBoy: A345 remains far ahead of the 772LR in number of units ordered, though it should be noted that the overwhelming majority of those orders
47 TrevD : Let's not forget that Airbus' numbers also include aircraft that will never see the light of day: Aerolineas Argentinas: (6) A340-600's Air Canada: (2
48 9V-SVC : Well, AC will be receiving 2 A345s this summer.
49 Post contains images Dynkrisolo : I think it's kind of amusing to see the Concorde/Airbus vs MD95/Boeing argument. Anyhow, I will present one observation that no one has mentioned. Whi
50 ConcordeBoy : The fact remains that the A340-500 was the first ULR in its class Um, whomever disputed that it was? Well done Airbus! Is it? We don't know that yet..
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