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808 Or 787?  
User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2847 times:

Personally, there is no need to remove the 7-7 numbers. Airbus built its airplane of the future, the A380 and kept the 3 series. Why doesn't Boeing stick to a legacy thats been with them since the 707, That seven has just become a common place in aviation, to change it, granted sometimes change is good, but reliability and the notion of something being around for a while, is also something to be spoken for as well. Boeing should keep the 7-7 numbers, to let everyone know we have been established and we will continue to be here.

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User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2816 times:

Eventually they are going to have to finish the 7-7 format (787 797 7107 wtf!!) so I think now is a good time to do it. I have a mild suspicion they are going to keep 7E7 though.

User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2811 times:

Do the airlines think that Boeing will not "continue to be here" if Boeing aircrafts get other numbers?
Boeing should work on its planes and not on its numbers.

Maybe they could show: we've something new, very modern, another sort of aircraft, so we don't use the 7er numbers any more.



User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2786 times:

If the 7E7 is supposed to be a "new generation" of aircraft...then start with a new generation of numbers..it will show that Boeing is going for the future and not just staying with an old system. Like what was mentioned before, if they kept the 7 #s..what are they going to do when they get to 797, etc.? Plus if they keep it the "7E7," what are they going to name the next one?? Just my opinion  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2770 times:

The 7D7 perhaps. Maybe they could go with the #L# format, They could use 7A7, 7B7, 7C7, 7D7, 7E7, 7F7, 7G7, 7H7 and so on. The only question is, what kind of confusion would it cause for companies who operate 737-7H7 aircraft.

User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2753 times:

I think it is just easier to go to the 8#s...it owuld be very strange at first but i think we could get used to it.


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User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months ago) and read 2736 times:

I think this should be not a problem. They should try to build a good product that has all the things and fuel reduced amount Boeing promises.
We're living in a modern world where lots of things change very often and fast.
So I am sure people can live with an 8 instead of 7.


User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

I don't get it.

Have Boeing suggested that the 7E7 will be in the 8's instead? As far as I was aware 7E7 was the same as the A3XX, the E was just a substitute for another number (8, 9) that will be added once the aircraft gets off the drawing board.


User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

The 7E7 should be a major advance, but it will not be the quantum leap that the 707 was. I think Boeing should stick with the 7- series for now, and reserve moving to the 8's until its next truly revolutionary advance is made.


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User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2621 times:


Have Boeing suggested that the 7E7 will be in the 8's instead? As far as I was aware 7E7 was the same as the A3XX, the E was just a substitute for another number (8, 9) that will be added once the aircraft gets off the drawing board.


But you forgot, the original 707 prototype was named the Dash 80, or more precisely, the 367-80. One thing that is constant is all Boeing models always have a 7. While I strongly suspect that the 7e7 will not be named 787, I also don't think it will be called the 808. Is Boeing ready to break away from the "7" tradition?


User currently offlineA380900 From France, joined Dec 2003, 1106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

Although I definitely like the idea, I think rushing to 808 before it's really necessary would amount to stamp all the existing Boeing families "old junk".

User currently offlineDllongisland From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2538 times:

My understanding was that "E" is representative of the #5, since E is the 5th letter of the alphabet. Has anyone even considered that the 7E7 will just be the NG of the 757?? Being that production has ended on the 757, it does seem possible since the two aircraft are designed to carry similar pax loads, and a similar thing was done when the NG 737 was launched. Perhaps these will be "757-600, 75G, 757-800" and so on?

Any input?


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2592 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

I think the 7E7 should become the 787, for sure.

Am concerned about those 737's, though! We're up to the -900 series already, so which direction do they go in with the (next?) series??! I say keep on going - roll on the 737-1000!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5366 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2497 times:

Has anyone even considered that the 7E7 will just be the NG of the 757??

You've been looking at too much Airbus propaganda, friend. The 7E7 is much more than "just the NG of the 757." Besides - the 'E' stands for Efficient, not for being the fifth letter of the alphabet.



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User currently offlineWomack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 485 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2450 times:
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"This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down."

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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Won't be 808 anyways as Peugeot registered all 3-digit numbers with a "0" in the middle.

UTA



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

This is a very important issue. Boeing is running out of numbers. Once 797 has been reached they will be forced to close down.

What the hell...?

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

It will be the 787 as E will be very old hat when it rolls out. A bit like the A3XX was. Besides, 808 would look very naff, and 7G7 would look worse. Boeing has to risk egg on face soon, and the 7E7 will be their sushi hor'douvre. Chin chin.

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7993 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

The reason why Boeing described the 707 prototype as Model 367-80 was to ensure that no competitor knew about the project, given that it was developed under a lot of secrecy. If I remember correctly, Model 367 was the designation for the derivatives of the Stratocruiser. However, the registration for the prototype was N70700, so people knew the plane was going to be designated Boeing 707.

By the way, there is one possibility of a new number designation: how about Boeing 2007? After all, when Boeing was studying the Sonic Cruiser project it was done under the Boeing 2XXX moniker.


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Nothing is written in stone yet regarding the new name for the current 7E7. Boeing marketers are playing a teasing game with the general public. The aircraft could very well be renamed the 787 at the official roll-out ceremony. We know the "E" stands for efficiency, but could stand for Eight as well. Just my theory here. Regards.


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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3078 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

maybe perhaps 888...now that would be cool.....



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User currently offlineSonicKidatBWI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2112 times:



Have about this for controversy . . .

744 Replacement = Boeing 2740 (A340)
Boeing 7E7 = Boeing 2730 (A330)
NG 737 = Boeing 2720 (A320)

Just build upon the Model 2707 designation that was originally given to the proposed Boeing SST.

Maybe . . . but the 787 is a lot better than the 808. I would think if Boeing was press enough to go to the "8" series they should start at the Boeing 828.



User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Since Airbus leaped ahead in their number system (from 340 to 380) in part as a way of anticipating Boeing's next aircraft designation of 787 or 808, I am willing to bet the 7e7 will be called the 797.

The 787 or 808 sounds like it should be a BIG aircraft.




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User currently offlineAGrayson514 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Nothing wrong with keeping the 7E7 designation. Its new, I'm sure they've never used letters before. Only thing is when in a few years it is no longer the most efficient and most economic airplane, the name would lose some of its edge.

~ Andrew Grayson



Give a little bit...
25 Al319 : Perhaps they are going to break away from numbers and start using actual names, *cough* DREAMLINER…besides I don t think they will be using 808. Las
26 Post contains images AvObserver : They won't be changing the name, '7E7', to anything else, my friends. They've spent far too much advertising it with that name, unlike other models wi
27 The777Man : I recall a Boeing manager saying a few months back in Aviation Week that they were still not sure wether to keep 7E7 or change to 787. I personally wo
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