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KL 763 @ LHR?  
User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 969 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

What are KL 763's doing at London Heathrow? Do they fly AMS - LHR - AMS, if they do, why does KL also uses long-haul planes?


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And which more destinations does KL serve with the 763?

Thanks, FJWH


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User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2482 times:


FJWH

KLM frequently substitute the 737 flights for a 767 into LHR. Admittedly, they are not as common as they used to be.

It could have been one of two things, original aircraft went tech or the pax numbers were high on that particular flight.


User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

KL1007/1008 operates daily with 767 to LHR according to Amadeus. Arrival LHR 0900 and departure 0955.

/Robert



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User currently offlineBritish767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 284 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

BA also use 767 to many European destinations such a Frankfurt, DME, BRU and so on.

User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2039 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
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I'd imgine loads into and out of LHR aer fairly high, being slot controlled using larger planes obviously makes more sense. Larger planes mean more passengers because they have less frequency.

Hope that makes sense.  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

KLM have operated a morning 763 to/from Heathrow for years, mainly for the benefit of the heavy North American connection traffic.

User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5263 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

I used to work a few days per week in LHR and a few days at AMS, and almost always the morning flight to LHR was a 763. I did prefer BD however, being it a A321, which I like more and is more 'smooth'. ( just my opinion)

User currently offlinePicarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

KLM also utilizes the type to Africa. I recently flew AMS-JRO-DAR-AMS on the '67.

Picarus


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

KLM opeartes regurlar 767 into LHR especially in the morning so it can pick up passengers to transfer them to africa north america and asia


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineFlyba From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Does anyone know if the Business Class section onboard the 767 is the international product 'World Business Class'?

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4353 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Even if the aircraft isn't always filled, it's better for KLM to use a 767 in the morning as otherwise they had to buy an extra 737 while most 767s would be parked at mornings (arriving around 07.00 AM and departing in the afternoon to the US or the evening to Africa and the Middle east).
The mixed use of their mid size aircraft had been like that for years. DC-8-63s and then the A-310s used to do a lot of the busier European routes in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, like ATH, CDG, MAD, LIN and LIS. Actually the 737 has slowly taken over most european routes and now even typical DC-8/A-310 stuff like BEY and CAI.



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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Does anyone know if the Business Class section onboard the 767 is the international product 'World Business Class'?

The seats are the "World Business Class" seats, but the service (meal, etc...) is the "Europe Select" service.


User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

KLM have operated a morning 763 to/from Heathrow for years, mainly for the benefit of the heavy North American connection traffic..

Not entirely correct. The B767-300 is there for the benefit of the Accra flight. If the 767 does the AMS-LHR they only have to get the containers out of the aircaft onto the LHR flight (if they have to unload them at all because they regulary use the aircraft inbound from ACC for the outbound LHR flight). They do this not only with the usual LD2 containers but also with LD3 containers (if the ACC flight is operated with a MD-11).. These containers are filled with Accra bound pax at LHR in order to have an effecient transfer. They used to do this also for the Lagos flight but since the Lagos departure ex AMS was moved earlier they couldn't do this anymore.

The second reason is cargo, as the 767 can transport pallets and LD2 and LD3 containers which the 737s can't.

Finally, the first two flights flights to LHR is usually packed with business traffic (although most business traffic on the first) and the second departure can catch transfer pax.



User currently offlineGlobetrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

a ten for LJ!
What he stated above is 100% correct. It just has to do with efficiency.

GlobeTrekker



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Couldn't help laughing when reading this:

. . . These containers are filled with Accra bound pax at LHR in order to have an effecient transfer . . .


Self loading cargo . . . how efficient Smile/happy/getting dizzy

PW100



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2118 times:

They fly to CAI with their B763s


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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2109 times:

yeah KL1001 is 1/2 full from PAX that just arrived from ACCRA connectibg to heathrow


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2096 times:

Self loading cargo . . . how efficient

Can't be much worse that the in-cabin service!  Big grin


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