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CO To Start EWR-Ponce, Puerto Rico  
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

According to Caribbean Business, Continental has signed an agreement with the Puerto Rico Toursim Company to begin a daily non-stop flight from Newark to Ponce, Puerto Rico, in December. The flight will be operated as a revenue guarantee; if it doesn't generate a minimum revenue target Puerto Rico will pay Continental USD$500,000.

An online version of article is available here:
http://www.prwow.com/html/barchives-detail.asp?amaspHidden_listActive=true&amaspField_beat=Aviation%2C%20Tourism&amaspHidden_beat_dataType=string&amaspField_newshd=Continental%20to%20fly%20from%20Ponce%20to%20Newark&amaspHidden_newshd_dataType=string

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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5060 times:

Hopefully my hometown will soon see nonstop service to the mainland one more time. The tarmac at Mercedita looks kind of sad nowadays with only cape air flying into the airport.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5044 times:

I wonder how long it would take AA to add service to PSE to stay up with CO. It wouldn't surprise me to see JFK-PSE happen soon after CO makes a formal announcement for EWR-PSE.

Also, for anyone at CO, have they decided what are the flight times going to be? I would presume that they might do a RON schedule similar to BQN, but anything's possible.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

This is an excellent idea as many PR people in the NYC/Northern NJ area from that area of the island - less need for someone to use a connecting flight, or take a bus or have relatives pick them up at SJU. The only problem is that this will probably be a modest money yeild flight, not much premium business (1st/Business). What equipment is proposed to be used? 757's or 737's and what versions?

[Edited 2004-06-06 03:48:43]

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

The article says that a 124 seat aircraft will be used, so I would have to guess that CO plans on using a 73G to service the route.

User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

That'll be great for the surfers on that end of the island.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4970 times:

I wonder how long it would take AA to add service to PSE to stay up with CO. It wouldn't surprise me to see JFK-PSE happen soon after CO makes a formal announcement for EWR-PSE.

CO has flown EWR-BQN with AA never adding service. Even when AA took over TWA, they closed down TWA's BQN station. AA has shown little interest in adding BQN in the past, although they are looking at MIA/SJU/JFK-BQN closely now with jetBlue (to JFK) and Pan Am (to SDQ and FLL) in the picture.



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4941 times:

Now we just need ORD->VQS service with a 773-300.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4936 times:

Ironically, Eastern, Continental's sister carrier, operated from EWR to Ponce during their last months.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

Even if CO starts flgihts to Ponce I doubt we will be seeing AA back in Ponce. If AA is planning to serve any other airport it wold be BQN, which is seeing more and more airlines come in.
Chepos



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Interesting to see a 70 x 30 miles island as Puerto Rico to have so many passenger airports, thinking about Mayaguez which has American Eagle ATRs flying there from SJU, Fajardo with its Trislanders flying to Vieques and Culebra. I guess American might jump onto Continental not by direct flights to Ponce but restarting connecting service from/to SJU with ATRs (airtime probably in the 10-15 minutes range) offering a one stop service with pricing competitive to CO.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Is the airport at Ponce the former Ramey Air force Base?




Bob


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

Why would someone want to take a connection in SJU over a nonstop from EWR?

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Cory > Don't forget not everyone is living near EWR. For people living in say BOS or MIA or Orlando or any other place with non stop flights to SJU, there's no difference between flying BOS-SJU-PSE compared to BOS-EWR-PSE.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Not everyone lives near EWR, but there is a very large Puerto Rican population in the New York area.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Bobnwa - BQN in Aguadilla is the former Ramey Air Force Base, PSE is Mercedita Airpor in Ponce.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4699 times:

The beautiful thing is, the NY/NJ metropolitan area is so populated and so diverse that flights to most destinations, especially the Caribbean, can be supported by O/D traffic alone. The connection opportunities at our EWR hub are just icing on the cake; the real money at our most profitable hub comes from travelers either originating or terminating in the New York area.

I will wager that we do not anticipate heavy connecting loads on the EWR-PSE flight, and I think the schedule will reflect that.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4695 times:

So what will the schedule be then? Has CO made any informal announcements to its employees about the new service?

User currently onlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16825 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4681 times:

"I wonder how long it would take AA to add service to PSE to stay up with CO."

AA at one time did fly to Aguadilla, but before CO started the route. This was the mid 1990s and AA flew from both JFK and MIA to Aguadilla, AA's competition was Carnival which flew A300s from EWR and JFK to Ponce and Aguadilla on an alternating schedule.

Another route AA flew at one time and has not brought back is JFK-Nassau.



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6207 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Cory1688 I believe a formal announcement hasnt been made yet.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 906 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4595 times:

Looks like the service will be flown with a 737-700, since the article says it will carry 124 pax.

To those who are not familiar with Ponce, it's a very beautiful city, the second largest in Puerto Rico, with a lot of history. Plus there are some interesting locations nearby like the phosphorescent bay near San German on the southwest coast.

I hope the service is successful!

cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineRampero From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2004, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

I visit the Ponce (PSE) airport in last october with the CO managers of SJU,BQN,STT and the operations manager for latin america and the caribbean.
The were atonished with airport facilities and the passengers terminal. I was invited By them so that i am from Ponce and i know about the airport very well and its airline history.

Rampero
BQN ramp spotters



"Ponce es Ponce" y lo demas es parking...
User currently offlineRampero From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2004, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

And please do not compare the market of Aguadilla with the one of Ponce since they are completely different.

Rampero
BQN ramp spotters



"Ponce es Ponce" y lo demas es parking...
User currently offlineRampero From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2004, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Chepos

The announcement of the PSE flight has not become official from Continental.
This knows only government (P.R.P.A) people, some CO employees and me because i am co ramp supervisor at BQN.

Rampero
BQN ramp spotters



"Ponce es Ponce" y lo demas es parking...
User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

I heartily agree with you, MD80Nut - Chepos's hometown is indeed a beautiful city. The central plaza is enchanting; make sure you check out the old firehouse (you cannot miss it!). The buildings are beautiful; the side streets are interesting, too, with folk art murals and sculptures. The art museum and the music museum are well worth visiting, too. Yes, there is also the phosphorescent bay near San German (also an historic place) and the bay near Cabo Rojo and the Rio Camuy caves. Ponce would make an excellent starting point for a tour of "La Isla del Encanto." San Juan is not far, thanks to the new "autopista."


The aeroplane has unveiled for us the true face of the earth. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery
25 PROSA : BDL-PSE might be workable, albeit possibly on a less-than-daily basis. Much of the sizeable Puerto Rican population in Connecticut comes from the Ponc
26 Aa767400 : Fanofjets, What new "autopista"? As I recall that expressway has been there for years. On a more related topic, why did AE leave PSE?
27 CactusA319 : I wonder if this flight is going to be a daily or just 3x a week or something along those lines. I think CO can make a pretty good go of it. PSE has
28 MD80Nut : The old firehouse in Ponce is indeed gorgeous, the pictures I've seen don't do it justice. It's very impressive "live". I agree, Ponce is an excellent
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