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Air India Inaugural LAX Flight  
User currently offlineThunderbird1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 225 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6190 times:

I am going to be spotting at LAX on Friday--does anyone have information regarding landing and takeoff runway info, gate info, aircraft registration, etc., for the inaugural June 11 AI flight into LAX?

I can't wait.

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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6145 times:

The details you ask for are not determined yet, but I can tell you who the crew will be. Not that you care of course....  Big grin

User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Let make wish for good luck with AI to LAX.

User currently offlineBOEING787 From India, joined May 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6058 times:

Hey T-Bird - here it is!

* 1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO * AI 137 2 FR 11JUN

BOM - AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA 0710-1225
AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA - LAX 1400-1635

Wish you luck with getting great pix! Hope to see them on A.NET soon!


User currently offline744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Good Luck Air-India, and wish you all the VERY BEST. FLyhigh in the sky, PALACE in SKY!

User currently offlineCx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Also make sure you empty the watse (Toilet) tank before your departure!!
I read on Skytrax that once the toilet overflow and it leaked into the cabin!!!


User currently offlineTrevD From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 335 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6000 times:

Best wishes to Air India on their commencement of service to LAX from India !!

User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1970 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5958 times:

I'm not sure if this helps, but LH lands at around 2pm from AB) (FRA / FRF / EDDF), Germany">FRA with a 744 every day and almost always uses 25L to land. I would assume that AI would use 25L as well. However, ATC will make the final decision!


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5920 times:

Will AI be using the Bradley Terminal or Terminal 2?

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Did AI's newly leased 744s arrive? More ex-Korean Air aircraft? And what are they calling them this time around?

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

AI will be at TBIT.

The specific airframe that will operate the inaugural AI 137 will be assigned approximately 1430Z on Thursday. I'll post once it becomes known.


User currently offlineThunderbird1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

Thanks for the replies. I am aware that LH flights generally use 25 L, but you never know. Many late afternoon flights land on 25 R (BA, Virgin, JAL, Philippines, ANZ, etc).

It's helpful to know that TBIT will be the terminal in use.

Sean, when/if you find out further details, do let us know!


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

Does anyone know how these flights are booked for the next weeks (sold out??)? Of course, the inaugural one will be full, but I could imagine that this connection will be a very popular one...

would be nice to get some data (if someone has access to booking system??)


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

I can look into Sabre, Galileo and Amadeus - but I can only do that tomorrow... so if no-one gets the data earlier, then I can supply it... although, the CRSs always only give a partial view - I guess that Sean is probably in a much better position to get precise infos...  Big grin

Regards,
Frank



Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineBOEING787 From India, joined May 2004, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

Flight wide open!!! (AMADEUS)


1AIAD11JUNBOMLAX
** AI - AIR INDIA ** 001 FR 11JUN
SEE FLIFO FOR SHARED FLIGHTS
21 AI 137 F2 A2 J4 C4 D3 BOM LAX 0710 1635 1 744
W4 Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 M4 V4 G4


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

Flight wide open!!!

Interesting - and very surprising... so I could show up at the ticketing if I decide to go spontaneously and get a cheap ticket!  Smile

How is it with the following days?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5360 times:

Flight wide open!!!

I won't say "wide open" but its up there.  Smile

>150 seats available for sale...


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Aircraft operating AI 137 of June 11 is now confirmed to be VT-ESM "Konark".


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User currently offlineThunderbird1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

Wow, thanks Sean. I thought for sure it'd be AIC, AID, or EVJ (something about crew cabin space?)

Best of luck to AI as they commence LAX service. Hopefully it will be a profitable run. As a longtime CA resident, this is SO long overdue! Hopefully SFO will be on the AI route map soon as well.

Does anyone have landing/takeoff runway info yet?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

I thought for sure it'd be AIC, AID, or EVJ (something about crew cabin space?

The flights are being staffed entirely with non-union cabin crew (executive crew, probationary new hires and trainees) until a final agreement on crew rest is reached with the union. Staffing has been set to an optimal complement of 19 cabin crew for this flight, compared to 16 on other 744 longhaul sectors.


User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

The flights are being staffed entirely with non-union cabin crew (executive crew, probationary new hires and trainees) until a final agreement on crew rest is reached with the union.

Why hasn't there been any Union Agreement yet?? Has it something to do with their control by the Shiv Sena?


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5138 times:

Why hasn't there been any Union Agreement yet??

AICCA is objecting to some of the workrules for the new hires (who aren't union members yet) and so they are stalling all along the line.

Nothing new here. When the 744s were first introduced, they ran almost an entire year of executive operations before the unions finally reached agreement. Even during SARS last year, executive operations were commonplace. Most passengers won't even notice the difference.


User currently offlineSeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

Excuse my ignorant... but is this a non-stop flight ? or does it make a stop in Europe? If it was a non-stop flight do you think they go west or east of India to LAX? I would think flying east is closer considering LAX is in the west coast of the US.

User currently offlineThunderbird1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Interesting that they're flying with AI's oldest 744 bird.

It's a great name though--Konark. Also the first to be fitted with sleeper beds in First Class.

Sea, the flight is stopping in Frankfurt.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

Interesting that they're flying with AI's oldest 744 bird.

Oldest maybe, but she's also the flagship and one of the best behaved.  Smile

Also, the inspiration for my username so maybe I'm a bit biased. Of course, I love all 6 of the original -437s but ESM and EVB are my favorites.

Ok, I'm about to get all misty eyed about my "babies" so I'll quit before people start making more fun of me!  Nuts


25 Thunderbird1 : Don't worry, I understand. I personally was always favourably biased toward ESN (love the name Tanjore) and ESP (love the name Ajanta as well). I'm no
26 B747-437B : However, growing up it was always about AI 747s being named after emperors. I thought that was so wonderful. I agree. The Emperor names truly gave the
27 Thunderbird1 : Exactly. The personality aspect of it was probably the most special thing. It also, to me, as the child of Indian parents and born and raised in the U
28 Post contains images Mrniji : OK guys, sorry I have to interfere in your discussion.. this time when I took AI to India from FrA my goal was somehow to fly with Narasima Varhan...
29 Post contains links B747-437B : I tried to ask friends about Narasima Varhan - no one knew the history about him... do you know more about him (i.e. who was he...?) From http://www.w
30 B747-437B : are the differences between AI's various 744 really so big Depends how closely you know them. They all have their tiny quirks that you get to know ove
31 Sammyk : Ahh yes Konark. Flew on her quite a few times. Beautiful aircraft.
32 B747-437B : Good grief. Thats all I can say. The inaugural Air-India Mumbai-Los Angeles flight was flagged off on Friday morning by Minister of State for Civil Av
33 744 : Wouldn't it have been better for AI to fly over the Pacific through Seoul, Tokyo, HKG etc as the already fly into Europe (CGD and LHR) as their main b
34 Mrniji : Scheduled Arrival time FrA: 12:25 GMT+1 Estimated Arrival time FrA: 12:12 GMT+1 will land in less than an hour... any idea how many pax will additiona
35 Post contains images Mrniji : FYI> Scheduled Time LAX: 1635 (435 pm) Estimated arrival tile LAX: 1502 (302 pm) So hurry if you wanna spot! - flight is more than 1 1/2 hr early
36 B747-437B : Don't worry, they have been instructed to take a slower transatlantic track and won't be arriving in LAX till around 4pm, which is when the media even
37 Lfutia : Well... Best of luck to AI to LAX... as for myself... i have flown Velha Goa.... from JFK-LHR-DEL-LHR-JFK in 1998
38 Thunderbird1 : This is great info. I'll get there early just in case. Anyone have gate information? It would be helpful to know if it will land on 25 L or R, and par
39 Mrniji : Thunderbird1, are you taking pics and publishing them here in the forum? Would be very grateful... otherwise... can you send me a private mail (my pro
40 Thunderbird1 : I'm taking all my photos with a film SLR, and not digital. I haven't scanned most of my pics, so you'll probably see better photos on here taken by so
41 Maharajah : Thunderbird1, Hope you could get good pics of this flight! Let us know when you develop them. Any specific news about the media event?
42 Post contains images Mrniji : I like this one...
43 ACAfan : Doesnt Air India have fifth freedom rights LAX-NRT ?
44 Mrniji : Doesnt Air India have fifth freedom rights LAX-NRT ? AFAIK they have them for some decades...
45 Post contains images B747-437B : Some pictures from the pre-flight ceremonies at Mumbai on Friday.
46 Post contains links and images B747-437B : Maybe Sean can explain this Sean already did explain this over a month ago on another thread. http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/re
47 Thunderbird1 : Let me give a summary of yesterday's exciting activities. I couldn't get gate information anywhere on the internet so I decided to head to the termina
48 Post contains images Mrniji : Glad you enjoyed, thanks for the nice report.. wish I was on the flight - maybe next year on the FrA-SFO one   Edit: (with the hope of giving a simil
49 Thunderbird1 : By the way, Sean, thanks for those pics. I'll post some soon if I can too. Have to get mine developed first.
50 Skyguy : Hopefully there weren't any venal & slimy politicians and their followers, families and unlimited pressmen on this flight like the fiasco on the inaug
51 BN747 : Mrniji and B747-437B, Be sure to watch on of the Indian News stations.. you'll see some stunning footage of Konarks' arrival and water cannon salute o
52 WhiteHatter : This flight should soon reach full loads as there is the huge Indian community in Southern California to cater to, once the AI marketing & sales machi
53 Post contains images Thunderbird1 : BN747, what about me I checked Namaste America, etc today and there was no footage. I'm in LA. Can you pass on some programming times please? That wou
54 B747-437B : If you can .. let me know which ship is doing the honors tomorrow! Sorry, its the weekend so my contact in ops is home. Smart money says it should be
55 Post contains images Maharajah : Thunderbird1, Thanks for the detailed report! I could see through your eyes . If anyone has pics of water cannon salute, do post them. BTW why doesn't
56 B747-437B : why doesn't AI start BOM-SFO service this FALL (with 2nd leased a/c)instead of increasing BOM-LAX frequency from 3 to 5? Because SFO is not an approve
57 Post contains images Mrniji : BTW why doesn't AI start BOM-SFO service this FALL Sean once pointed out that the US-India bilateral only permits services to either LAX orSFO, when I
58 BN747 : Thunderbird1, the footage was fed to an India Post camera man (www.indiapost.com) and their operation then probably edited the footage and pooled it o
59 Thunderbird1 : BN747, thanks for the info. I'll definitely keep my eyes open. I'd love to have some video footage to go along with the stills. I'd like to see EPW or
60 Mrniji : if you ever get surprised and see word of one of the 743s ever getting the duty...Please let me know! That would be a prize catch! The 74Ds are the be
61 Jaysit : Another question: Have the new 747-400s arrived? Are they also ex-Korean Air aircraft? What are they being christened? And --- was that Spider Man and
62 AirxLiban : i got off of work at 4pm (huntington beach) and came over to LAX but it had already landed by then so I didnt get any pictures. Are there any posted o
63 HALFA : I was on a layover in LAX today and left my crew hotel at 5:00pm for my flight back to HNL and had the pleasure of chatting with the Air India flight
64 B747-437B : As I noted in reply 19, the flights are currently being operated only by executive crew and trainees as the unions have not yet reached agreement on s
65 Thunderbird1 : Some of my pics covering the inaugural flight arrival on June 11 are posted on MyAviation.net. I will post more shortly. We'll see if any ever make it
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