Spacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 3164 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4126 times:
http://www.planemart.com shows 6 ex-United 777s... 2x 777-222s and 4x 777-222ERs being offered by Bristol for sale/lease. These airframes have between 17,000 and 35,000 hours on them, and were built between 1994 and 1999. Are these the only 777s being disposed of by United, or have some already been placed?
And a quick follow up: Have the 767-222/ER's been placed yet? There are quite a few already out in the desert, but they have not been listed for sale for a while. I was curious whether they had any buyers.
Dl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11448 posts, RR: 73
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
md11luxurylinr.....DL is selling aircraft not yet built because they have decided that they cannot afford to pay pilots of these aircraft $275,000 per year to fly them. They may buy more in the future, but these are on the market unless something major changes....it does not affect the 777's DL is currently flying.
FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3984 times:
I find a record breaking load factor of 80% in May in opposition to Aaron747's comment: They should - the glut of capacity in their fleet is ridiculous.
I think once we retired our rather large fleet of 722's and the remaining 732's that got rid of excess capacity. We're running nothing but full planes. The problem is high fuel costs, readjusting our operating expenses, writting down a lot of items as we traverse through Ch. 11, and a very low yeild environment caused by an increasingly competitive marketplace.
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
UAMAYBACH1239 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3830 times:
It is sad to see these birds sitting, the bright side is that they were able to fly them even if it was brief. Some carriers will never own or lease a brand new a/c. Also between the larger US carriers close to half of their fleet of 7's was a luxury. A lot of routes served could have remained profitable with a 767. I would look in the future for STAR to begin picking up extra a/c from US, UA , and AC.
Gabrielz From United States of America, joined May 2004, 106 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3594 times:
Umm, Aaron747 - SFO is a large maintenance facility for UA. Aircraft parked at the SuperBay are there for maintenance. Recently, you may have seen the 777s all rotating through SFO for both routine maintenance and the fitting of E+/C+ on all international aircraft.
They don't generally park planes at SFO any longer than necessary - it's not a cost-effective place to store airframes. If you see planes parked away from the terminal at SFO, they are there for maintenance.
Ultrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2836 times:
What is the "asking price" How does it compare to list price?
If another airline flying 777 wanted to buy these (assuming same engines) would the be configured close enough to allow their pilots tolegally fly them would the confirguration be close enough to make it practical?
Propulsion From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 294 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1898 times:
It may be a sad event that such action is necessary, but anything that will assist United's dire situation will be a blessing. I hope for their sake that buyers can be found quickly, although some have been for sale for over 8months now (according to the planemart link).
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