UALongHaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
In my opinion,
I have doubts about DXB being a megahub anytime soon. As bad as it may sound, most Americans, along with many other westerners, if they had a choice would choose to not fly through a middle eastern airport, no matter how nice it may be or how friendly the people are. I know it sounds stereotypical and stupid, but i do think that it holds true in some circumstances.
SQ linking east and west with leadership flights driving pax through SIN can only help. The Singapore Stopover deal is a good one, and i hope it grows.
I would vote HKG as the regions next major hub, as you are really in the middle of everything. SIN is nice, few hours to dehli, few hours to perth, hour to KL, 6 hours to tokyo, etc. The preformance of the national carriers, such as Singapore air, thai, cathay, ana / jal etc will determine the real preformance of the airports. If an airline has great service at the right price with a good network of routes they will succeed.
It will be all about wooing customers, offering deals, nice seats, etc. I think SQ is on the way with exec economy. If they could lower their prices a bit and not be so by the book all the time i think they have a real good chance of emerging as the asian airline of choice for a lot of people.
UALongHaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
Well it sounded like the article was talking about who is going to emerge as the mega hub of Asia, sin, bkk, hkg?
I guess if i really had to vote, i would say none of them. No airport in the US has emerged as the MEGA HUB of all air travel. LAX is big, so is JFK. ORD is big, so is IAD. No single airport is going to rule all of Asia. I do think the continued success of all of them is going to be the national airlines that use them as hubs. If they do well, the airport will see much traffic. I am not trying to encite a "HKG is better than SIN" or any crap like that, I am just saying national carriers dominate at most asian hubs, gains or losses in national carriers will be reflected on the airport traffic and city traffic as a whole.
Motorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2986 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1879 times:
Your reply #8:
I agree entirely with your sentiment, especially since the sub-continent has the world's largest middle class population as well as a superior socio-politico-geographic position in the world compared with DXB and SIN.
Well maybe not socio-politico over SIN, but they should work on it eh?!
Chinaeastern From China, joined Apr 2004, 348 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1848 times:
one thing SQ/SIN provides extensively while EK/DXB can't do is routes from australasia to north asia, personally i prefer EK slightly over SQ, but the fact is that it just makes no sense for me to fly MEL-PVG via DXB, altough theoritically i can. but EK is sort of using SIN as a hub which is good to see
Chinaeastern From China, joined Apr 2004, 348 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1695 times:
SIN and HKG are still quite attractive fro transit and stopovers. they are in really good lcations as well. i don't think BKK will do as well as SIN and HKG cuz TG is not strong enough at the moment. For the story of PVG and PEK, it would be miles to go since there is not any strong airlines based there.
Dirkou From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 571 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1555 times:
This reminds me of the Boeing vs Airbus war: Dubai is a newcomer and because of that is has great advatadge over Singapore. Like empires, dominant airports change and sooner or later SIA/Singapore will not stop rulling and loose predominance...so sooner or later Dubai will be the most important airport for that region and be there for 15 to 20 years...after that, who knows...
CX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6454 posts, RR: 56 Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1437 times:
I think Cathay have seen what Emirates and SQ have achieved over the years and with the 'new' airport in Hong Kong Cx can finally spreads it's wings and become a proper hub airport. We are shortly going to grow the fleet to 100 aircraft and we are entering a rapid expansion phase....well, rapid for Cx standards!
9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1364 times:
If I have to compare SQ and EK as a hub, the main advantage SQ has is its location, for example if one is in Australia and heading to Asia then no-one would ever choose to fly on EK only if they have a lot of time to bludge. Heading to Europe or Middle East, passengers would then choose to fly on either airlines, depending on their will.
In terms of service, both airlines offer "1st class" service which is recognized throughout the world.
To ensure SQ maintaining it's "hub" position there's one thing that it has to do which EK has been aggressively doing - Expand its network. SQ has suspended so many destinations in the past (Recently Las Vegas, Brussels, Chicago etc, further Darwin, Cairns, Vienna, Abu Dhabi etc). Yes, understandable why they're doing this and also relying more on Code-share services but to expand its own would always be better instead of relying on others.
Have heard pretty bad comments on EK from my friends but I'd love to try them out one day. However, doesn't look like I'd be heading to Europe anytime for now!
AeroOzzie From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 55 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
If you define "largest hub" as the airport which handles the most passengers, in Asia and the Middle East, SIN is now actualy fifth behind HND (63.2m), BKK (30.2m), HKG (26.8m) and NRT (26.5m). It's sixth if you include SYD as being part of Asia (24.7m, all figures from ACI). I'm not sure how the numbers pan out if you count transit passengers only (SYD would fall way off as it's mainly a "destination" airport rather than an international transit airport).
I don't know what SIN can really do about it...SQ remains a first-class carrier but that doesn't necessarily mean it can grow at the same rate as other mainline carriers in the region (EK, MH, Thai), especially if it has to continue to fend off the growing number of LCC in the region.