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Mexicana To Begin Flights To DFW  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Admittedly, this is not my scoop, but considering my source it should be legit none-the-less.

Mexicana will begin (actually, restart) service from DFW to Cancun, Mexico City, Morelia, and Zacatecas on A318/319 aircraft in November. No frequencies are known yet and the flights will be AA codeshares.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

Yes this is exciting news. I remember when they had
7 flights a day out of DFW.

I understand that they will be 2 daily flights to start with
and both, as you mentioned, code share with AA.

Great destination for Mexicana.

Now hopefully they will return to SEA, SJU and PHL.


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Good to hear, I think I read something concerning their possible return to DFW a little while ago in some paper. They will be adding DFW in Nov along with switching ops to JFK, then more than likely stop PDX service as I've been told the loads are horrendous (even w/ schedule revamping). It would be nice to see them take over the 2x weekly 757 STL-CUN route, or even add on to it as there are something like 320 passengers a day on that route (300,000 a yr/ according to Stl Biz journal).

Unfortunately, I believe they will return to SEA or PHL before they even give St Louis a sniff.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32698 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

Unfortunately, I believe they will return to SEA or PHL before they even give St Louis a sniff.

If rumours come true, San Juan will be the next US destination they return to after Dallas, to connect MEX with AA's SJU Caribbean feed.



a.
User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

There are some points that let me state that MX can offer AA a good business deal. I'm sure that MX could become an excellent feeder for the AA LAX, DFW, ORD, JFK, MIA, and even SJU hubs from Mexico. No one has better experience and reputation on the Mexico - USA market than MX. So why not give it a try?


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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

MX served SJU seasonally in the past. How much I have missed that route!!

__Ad.



A300/18/19/20/21 B721/2 B732/3/G/8 B741/2/4 B752 B762/3/4 B772/3 DC8/9/10 MD11 TU134/154 IL62/86 An24 SA340/2000 E45/90
User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

I'm way off on math above....they said close to 200,000 fly that route every year. It shows I've been out of school for a month... Nuts

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5217 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Its going to be interesting the number of frequencies MX will serve from the beginning. Indeed it would be great if MX get back to 7 frequencies as in the past!

If rumors come true, San Juan will be the next US destination they return to after Dallas, to connect MEx with AA's SJU Caribbean feed.

Two hours ago I heard this rumor also! I would love to see SJU back! I would become a frequent SXM visitor!

Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Lamberman...That really sad to hear that Mexicana isn't doing well out of PDX..Since you seem to have inside info. that the service is performing so poorly, do you know when that airlines planning to pulled out of PDX?

User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Leneld,

I do not know where LambertMan gets his info but he might be right on MX at PDX. If you go to the PDX website and look under statistics, you can see how MX is doing. Their loads are in the 50 to 60% range and for the 1 year they have been here, they have not gone much aboe 60%. They are slowly growing with the revamping of the schedule but it may be too little too late. I have not heard that they are planning a pull out but they can't be terribly thrilled with the loads. Unless they are carrying a lot of cargo (which does not show in the statistics for some reason), they probably are not making much money.


User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

Leneld,

I do not know where LambertMan gets his info but he might be right on MX at PDX. If you go to the PDX website and look under statistics, you can see how MX is doing. Their loads are in the 50 to 60% range and for the 1 year they have been here, they have not gone much aboe 60%. They are slowly growing with the revamping of the schedule but it may be too little too late. I have not heard that they are planning a pull out but they can't be terribly thrilled with the loads. Unless they are carrying a lot of cargo (which does not show in the statistics for some reason), they probably are not making much money.


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2072 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2673 times:

I inquired about them coming to St Louis, I was told its a possibility since they are concentrating on AA cities now. Mentioned it could be swapped for PDX because loads are terrible...

User currently offlineAA623BDLSJU From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 354 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

This is awesome, awesome news to hear.

It's great know ing that MX is coming to DFW.

I agree with MAH4546, I did hear SJU is coming after DFW.

It'll be so sweet to see MX again in SJU.


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6213 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

I would love to see Mexicana back in San Juan, it could really work if its a codeshare with AA. Im prety sure 3 weekly A319 flights could work out maybe MEX-SJU or MEX-CUN-SJU.
cHEPOS



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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Im prety sure 3 weekly A319 flights could work out maybe MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU or MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-SJU

"¿Que comes que adivinas?"

You'll see that at least MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-SJU will be put in operation. Many clues lead to that; MX's request for lots of slots at CUN, code sharing with AA, AA's inability to operate it due to the lack of 5th freedom in DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU, increasing interest for Puerto Ricans to visit Cancun and the Mayan Riviera, Cancun's arisal as a hub for both MX and AA, etc.

RM  Smile



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User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32698 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

AA's inability to operate it due to the lack of 5th freedom in DFW-MX), Mexico">MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU

Lack of fifth freedom? SJU is in the United States. AA could fly DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU. They could not carry DFW-SJU passengers via SJU (the same way Pan Am can't carry FLL-SJU passengers via SKB on thier FLL-SKB-SJU flights), but they could rotate a plane and have it do DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX, then MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU-MX), Mexico">MEX, then MX), Mexico">MEX-DFW.

All AA has to do to operate any Mexico-Puerto Rico route is apply with DOT for the authority.



a.
User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

My mistake.... good observation!
I meant DFW-MEX-CUN-SJU instead of DFW-MEX-SJU in which of course they can do whatever they want !

All AA has to do to operate any Mexico-Puerto Rico route is apply with DOT for the authority.

Shhh.... don't make a lot of noise about it. That's the only thing missing here. AA operating to the Caribbean from Mexico and being succesful at it right in the face of our carriers.

Thanks !
RM  Smile



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User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

I would add several other cities:

ACA
HUX
CUN
SJD
HMO
GDL
MZT
PVR
ZIH
MLM
BJX
OAX
PBC
MTY
SLP
ZCL
VER
VSA
DGO

Some of these are already planned, so lets wait for the other ones.



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User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

A lo que hemos llegado:

We are all excited now because MX is or might be starting flights to DFW and SJU?


What's next, launching a massive advertising campaign naming their red-eye LAX-MX), Mexico">MEX flights "El Tecolote"?


Welcome back to the 70's, folks! "Aún hay más!" Big grin

[Edited 2004-06-11 07:06:44]

User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2716 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

JoseMex
A lo que hemos llegado: We are all excited now because MX is or might be starting flights to DFW and SJU? What's next, launching a massive advertising campaign naming their red-eye LAX-MX), Mexico">MX), Mexico">MEX flights "El Tecolote"? Welcome back to the 70's, folks! "Aún hay más!"

LOL!  Big thumbs up Hey man what can you say. "Life is like a box of chocolates: cause you never know what you're gonna get." Forest Gump.



 SmileLatinPlane


User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Going back to the main topic of this thread.

What terminal will they use? Will AA allow them to use AA? Will they use B or E? Any possibility they might use terminal D once its done?



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

They'll definitely use D once its done as will all international flights (with the possible exception of Air Canada). They will use terminal B for the time being though.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2312 times:

I don't know what to believe anymore..I wrote to the Port of Portland about how the Mexicana flight is doing..He stated that Mexicana traffic at PDX has been strong during the last three months and as the result of the increase, the airlines has added larger planes on that route..Also, the airlines does not plan to discontinue service at PDX.. Whatever..I'll just believe it if it happens..But I hope that it doesn't........

User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Other than making customs quicker since Terminal B has KE,BA,LH, and the charters as opposed to Terminal A's AA constant Int'l arrival influx, why will MX use B? A seems the more likely choice given that AA's operations and lounges are right there.

Also is there really that much demand for all of these additional flights to new cities other than MX), Mexico">MEX?

blink



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7569 posts, RR: 43
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

CUN is the foremost leisure destination in Mexico, so I think there is sufficient demand. As for MLM and ZCL, there is a lot of ethnic travel between the U.S. and these cities; I recall reading a few days ago somewhere that there are more Zacatecans in the U.S. than in Zacatecas City.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
25 Aa61hvy : Will MX park at B36-39? With BA and LH?
26 Anthsaun : Aa61hvy: Those gates are for larger airplanes. MX is going to use the little Airbuses.
27 Blink182 : Anthsaun- I've seen those gates regularly handle Futura 737s and Frontier A318s and A319s. The issue is more customs capability as I'm not sure B35 an
28 AirStatDFW : B33 to B39 are all Customs gates at DFW. I can see them using B39 or B35 but really everything else is taken, unless they will use B34 or B33 when BA,
29 Post contains images Jcs17 : Damnit, I meant Mexicana will probably use Terminal A for the time being.
30 Venezuela747 : That would be an awesome photo, just picture this: "The Sandwich" : A MX 318 in between a BA 777 and a LH 340
31 UAFan17 : I have a feeling that in the coming months to years MX is going to join One World.
32 DFWLandingPath : I was talking to a guy that works at American today and he said that ALL international flights will have to move to D when it is finished, including C
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