Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
Admittedly, this is not my scoop, but considering my source it should be legit none-the-less.
Mexicana will begin (actually, restart) service from DFW to Cancun, Mexico City, Morelia, and Zacatecas on A318/319 aircraft in November. No frequencies are known yet and the flights will be AA codeshares.
NAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
Yes this is exciting news. I remember when they had
7 flights a day out of DFW.
I understand that they will be 2 daily flights to start with
and both, as you mentioned, code share with AA.
Great destination for Mexicana.
Now hopefully they will return to SEA, SJU and PHL.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2040 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
Good to hear, I think I read something concerning their possible return to DFW a little while ago in some paper. They will be adding DFW in Nov along with switching ops to JFK, then more than likely stop PDX service as I've been told the loads are horrendous (even w/ schedule revamping). It would be nice to see them take over the 2x weekly 757 STL-CUN route, or even add on to it as there are something like 320 passengers a day on that route (300,000 a yr/ according to Stl Biz journal).
Unfortunately, I believe they will return to SEA or PHL before they even give St Louis a sniff.
Anthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 543 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1792 times:
There are some points that let me state that MX can offer AA a good business deal. I'm sure that MX could become an excellent feeder for the AA LAX, DFW, ORD, JFK, MIA, and even SJU hubs from Mexico. No one has better experience and reputation on the Mexico - USA market than MX. So why not give it a try?
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2040 posts, RR: 38 Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1778 times:
I'm way off on math above....they said close to 200,000 fly that route every year. It shows I've been out of school for a month...
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5126 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1762 times:
Its going to be interesting the number of frequencies MX will serve from the beginning. Indeed it would be great if MX get back to 7 frequencies as in the past!
If rumors come true, San Juan will be the next US destination they return to after Dallas, to connect MEx with AA's SJU Caribbean feed.
Two hours ago I heard this rumor also! I would love to see SJU back! I would become a frequent SXM visitor!
Ricardo APM
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Leneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
Lamberman...That really sad to hear that Mexicana isn't doing well out of PDX..Since you seem to have inside info. that the service is performing so poorly, do you know when that airlines planning to pulled out of PDX?
Kwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 438 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
Leneld,
I do not know where LambertMan gets his info but he might be right on MX at PDX. If you go to the PDX website and look under statistics, you can see how MX is doing. Their loads are in the 50 to 60% range and for the 1 year they have been here, they have not gone much aboe 60%. They are slowly growing with the revamping of the schedule but it may be too little too late. I have not heard that they are planning a pull out but they can't be terribly thrilled with the loads. Unless they are carrying a lot of cargo (which does not show in the statistics for some reason), they probably are not making much money.
Kwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 438 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
Leneld,
I do not know where LambertMan gets his info but he might be right on MX at PDX. If you go to the PDX website and look under statistics, you can see how MX is doing. Their loads are in the 50 to 60% range and for the 1 year they have been here, they have not gone much aboe 60%. They are slowly growing with the revamping of the schedule but it may be too little too late. I have not heard that they are planning a pull out but they can't be terribly thrilled with the loads. Unless they are carrying a lot of cargo (which does not show in the statistics for some reason), they probably are not making much money.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2040 posts, RR: 38 Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1693 times:
I inquired about them coming to St Louis, I was told its a possibility since they are concentrating on AA cities now. Mentioned it could be swapped for PDX because loads are terrible...
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5967 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1668 times:
I would love to see Mexicana back in San Juan, it could really work if its a codeshare with AA. Im prety sure 3 weekly A319 flights could work out maybe MEX-SJU or MEX-CUN-SJU.
cHEPOS
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 23 Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1610 times:
Im prety sure 3 weekly A319 flights could work out maybe MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU or MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-SJU
"¿Que comes que adivinas?"
You'll see that at least MX), Mexico">MEX-CUN-SJU will be put in operation. Many clues lead to that; MX's request for lots of slots at CUN, code sharing with AA, AA's inability to operate it due to the lack of 5th freedom in DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU, increasing interest for Puerto Ricans to visit Cancun and the Mayan Riviera, Cancun's arisal as a hub for both MX and AA, etc.
RM
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31116 posts, RR: 74 Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
AA's inability to operate it due to the lack of 5th freedom in DFW-MX), Mexico">MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU
Lack of fifth freedom? SJU is in the United States. AA could fly DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU. They could not carry DFW-SJU passengers via SJU (the same way Pan Am can't carry FLL-SJU passengers via SKB on thier FLL-SKB-SJU flights), but they could rotate a plane and have it do DFW-MX), Mexico">MEX, then MX), Mexico">MEX-SJU-MX), Mexico">MEX, then MX), Mexico">MEX-DFW.
All AA has to do to operate any Mexico-Puerto Rico route is apply with DOT for the authority.
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1788 posts, RR: 23 Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1596 times:
My mistake.... good observation!
I meant DFW-MEX-CUN-SJU instead of DFW-MEX-SJU in which of course they can do whatever they want !
All AA has to do to operate any Mexico-Puerto Rico route is apply with DOT for the authority.
Shhh.... don't make a lot of noise about it. That's the only thing missing here. AA operating to the Caribbean from Mexico and being succesful at it right in the face of our carriers.
Thanks !
RM
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LatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2629 posts, RR: 15 Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1413 times:
JoseMex
A lo que hemos llegado: We are all excited now because MX is or might be starting flights to DFW and SJU? What's next, launching a massive advertising campaign naming their red-eye LAX-MX), Mexico">MX), Mexico">MEX flights "El Tecolote"? Welcome back to the 70's, folks! "Aún hay más!"
LOL! Hey man what can you say. "Life is like a box of chocolates: cause you never know what you're gonna get." Forest Gump.
Venezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1407 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1378 times:
Going back to the main topic of this thread.
What terminal will they use? Will AA allow them to use AA? Will they use B or E? Any possibility they might use terminal D once its done?
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1369 times:
They'll definitely use D once its done as will all international flights (with the possible exception of Air Canada). They will use terminal B for the time being though.
Leneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1332 times:
I don't know what to believe anymore..I wrote to the Port of Portland about how the Mexicana flight is doing..He stated that Mexicana traffic at PDX has been strong during the last three months and as the result of the increase, the airlines has added larger planes on that route..Also, the airlines does not plan to discontinue service at PDX.. Whatever..I'll just believe it if it happens..But I hope that it doesn't........
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5430 posts, RR: 19 Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1277 times:
Other than making customs quicker since Terminal B has KE,BA,LH, and the charters as opposed to Terminal A's AA constant Int'l arrival influx, why will MX use B? A seems the more likely choice given that AA's operations and lounges are right there.
Also is there really that much demand for all of these additional flights to new cities other than MX), Mexico">MEX?
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7170 posts, RR: 45 Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1261 times:
CUN is the foremost leisure destination in Mexico, so I think there is sufficient demand. As for MLM and ZCL, there is a lot of ethnic travel between the U.S. and these cities; I recall reading a few days ago somewhere that there are more Zacatecans in the U.S. than in Zacatecas City.
25 Aa61hvy: Will MX park at B36-39? With BA and LH?
26 Anthsaun: Aa61hvy: Those gates are for larger airplanes. MX is going to use the little Airbuses.
27 Blink182: Anthsaun- I've seen those gates regularly handle Futura 737s and Frontier A318s and A319s. The issue is more customs capability as I'm not sure B35 an
28 AirStatDFW: B33 to B39 are all Customs gates at DFW. I can see them using B39 or B35 but really everything else is taken, unless they will use B34 or B33 when BA,
29 Jcs17: Damnit, I meant Mexicana will probably use Terminal A for the time being.
30 Venezuela747: That would be an awesome photo, just picture this: "The Sandwich" : A MX 318 in between a BA 777 and a LH 340
31 UAFan17: I have a feeling that in the coming months to years MX is going to join One World.
32 DFWLandingPath: I was talking to a guy that works at American today and he said that ALL international flights will have to move to D when it is finished, including C
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