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User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1523 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

After reading another topic of UA possibly reconsidering AKL, I was wondering what was the schedule like when UA flew AKL-MEL-AKL. Did they have similiar times to NZ and QF?
Also, when UA had the short lived LAX-MEL non-stops, did this operate daily? That would have meant doubling of capacity without the SYD stopover..
Also, what was the reason UA pulled the non-stops? I am quite sure this was due to some payload restriction/tail wind issue rather than a yield issue. If QF can make a success out of it, im surprised UA couldnt.

Thanks for your answers.

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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

The last Southern summer UA operated AKL-MEL was 2001-02 the flight left AKL at around 0950 and returned to AKL at around 1840, QF and NZ flights were usually earlier departures ex AKL and then an afternoon flight so UA weren't really in direct competition. Loads weren't great though on the 744, some days it was like 35-50 people.

UA did operate daily non-stop LAX-MEL from December 1999 to April 2001 with 744's!

Flights were pulled I believe due to severe weight restrictions I think they could carry 300 people max plus they also lost space in the hold aswell.

QF perservered and now operate the 744ER which eliminates all load and weight restrictions so they probably do pretty well!



User currently offlineNz1 From Australia, joined May 2004, 2277 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
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When UA switched to the 777 for AKL-LAX services, they ditched the onward leg to MEL and layed over in AKL till mid afternoon before returning to LAX.

Regards
NZ1


User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5302 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Does UA fly the 777 to AKL? Isn't there an ETOPS problem?

User currently offlineNz1 From Australia, joined May 2004, 2277 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
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They USED to fly the 777 AKL-LAX, but no longer fly to New Zealand.

Regards
NZ1


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

When they flew MEL-LAX non-stop they stopped the AKL-MEL leg aswell!

The AKL flight was in the NZ summer
STA AKL 0800
STD AKL 1530

Winter

STA AKL 0550
STD AKL 1330

The 772ER was NZ summer

STA AKL 0810
STD AKL 1830

Winter

STA AKL 0550
STD AKL 1830

Rather long layovers at those times.


User currently offlineDinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1068 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1217 times:

Its too bad they don't do MEL-LAX non stop anymore. I just flew that route yesterday and its kind of a hasle to go through SYD. The QF direct took off about 20 minutes before we boarded and I really envied the passengers on that direct flight. Must have been more comfortable for the pax as well with more seats between for room to spread out. It was tight from SYD-LAX yesterday.

Dinker



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