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IB A319s At MIA Last Sunday?  
User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Hi everyone,

I was flying from MIA to BOS last Sunday (trip report is coming up!) and I'm pretty sure
I saw two IB A319s taking off one after the other, two to three minutes apart.
I didn't have a great view from where I was seating and I only got a glimpse of them
(so I could be wrong!). Can anyone explain this? Have I gone totally mad?  Nuts
Or were they being ferried?

Thanks,

Tony


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

It's been a while since this has been brought up.

Iberia has a hub in Miami, the only foreign airline to have a hub on US soild. They have a fleet of 4 A319s flying between Miami and Cancun and Central America.



a.
User currently offlineBizboy From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Interestingly I asked Iberia recently if the new A.319’s (msn 2264 08/04, 2311 10/04 & 2365 12/04) would be shipped out to Miami as well and the response was: ‘The mini hub will be kept at Miami, but will not expand”

Which I think means no!


User currently offlineMD80Nut From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 909 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

As MAH4546 said, it's Iberia's mini-hub in Miami, the A319s are used to connect with their A340s and 747s to Spain. Before the A319s they used MD87s for the Cancun and Central America flights.

Relax, you haven't gone mad!  Smile

cheers, Ralph



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Hey guys,

Thanks for the very quick info! It all makes sense and I feel better now!  Big thumbs up

Regards,

Tony



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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Yea the 319's are a daily thing down here with several flights to leaving to points in Central America and Cancun as stated before...

Just for kicks: Air France flies an A320 and on certain days an ERJ145 for their MIA-PAP route.



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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Wasn't there talks several months ago or maybe even a year ago about possibley moving the mini hub to another destination? I believe the problem they were having was due to the security wait times and processing and all..I thought they were considering other airports such as FLL and CUN. Anyone know what i'm talking about?


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Wasn't there talks several months ago or maybe even a year ago about possibley moving the mini hub to another destination? I believe the problem they were having was due to the security wait times and processing and all..I thought they were considering other airports such as FLL and CUN. Anyone know what i'm talking about?

Yes, there was. It would not have moved to FLL, though. The problem was US security issues, which FLL also has. They were looking at CUN, SDQ, and HAV mainly, though, once again (they were considering this back in early 2002 as well), Iberia came to the conclusion MIA is still the only profitable place to run thier hub from. It's not moving.



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User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1906 times:


I believe IB had considered moving the hub to HAV due to its strategic location and relative proximity to MIA. Also as a side note IB did indeed operate MD-87's and DC-9's for these connecting routes.
Regards



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User currently offlineIberia340600 From Spain, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Wow..it sure has been a while since the HUB topic has come up! LOL But dont worry Tony...as others have said, you have not gone mad. To bad you didnt see the other two take off...you would have really gone mad then! LOL

There is still talks regarding moving the HUB to Central America due to the rules that TSA and Immigration have put in after 9/11. It is just a big hassle for the transit passengers and they are not happy with the procedures implemented.

The main problem with moving the HUB to Central America would not be the feeder traffic...as that would improve, but IB also makes money on the local traffic boarding in Miami to Central America(5th freedom rights). That local traffic wouldnt be sustained from lets say SJU or SDQ or HAV hence a huge loss in revenue. At times the local MIA traffic accounts for more than 50% of the passengers.

We'll see how it evolves.



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User currently offlineGOTbound From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

AF does also have some Caribbean services out of MIA.

rgs.GOTbound


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Here's some AF:

Airline Air France
Flight Number 3946
Departure City (Airport) Port Au Prince, Haiti (MTPP)
Departure Time 06/10/2004 07:20 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Miami, FL (MIA)
Arrival Time 06/10/2004 09:03 PM
Remaining Flight Time 01:43 (scheduled)
Aircraft Type
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Scheduled

Airline Air France
Flight Number 3946
Departure City (Airport) Pointe A Pitre, Guadeloupe (TFFR)
Departure Time 06/10/2004 04:42 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Port Au Prince, Haiti (MTPP)
Arrival Time 06/10/2004 06:26 PM
Remaining Flight Time 01:44 (scheduled)
Aircraft Type Airbus A320
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Scheduled


Port a Prince,that must be an experience!

Airline Iberia Airlines - Spain
Flight Number 6146
Departure City (Airport) Panama City, Panama (MPTO)
Departure Time 06/10/2004 11:55 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Miami, FL (MIA)
Arrival Time 06/10/2004 03:14 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Airbus A319
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived




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User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

767-332ER: No the only reason IB was thinking about moving the hub was because of US security reasons. How passengers just connecting in US needed a US Visa. MIA is the only spot they can run a profitble hub in North America


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

AF got a 319-115ER, dont know the range, but IB maybe flies with that model.
It must be a new model cuz its not in the range of 319CJ.........

Mike//SE  Big thumbs up



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