GoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8238 times:
It appears to me that on 9V-SGE, the titles are covered with a temprary sheet, most probably to be removed during a naming/acceptance/delivery ceremony, rather than because SQ is 'ashamed' of flying Airbus. That's the way it looks, anyway.
AndersNilsson From Sweden, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8214 times:
I haven't read anything about any bigger problems with A340-500s
Ashamed is a strong word. Airbus is probably doing their outmost to
satisfy their customers.
Andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8191 times:
My concern here is not too much about the word Leadership. Anyway it has been delivered for sometime. So no reason for it to be still sealed temporarily for reasons stated.
The biggest query is WHY IS THE WORD AIRBUS and AIRBUS LOGO removed also?
I assume it was removed when the title LEADERSHIP got covered. As it was there even after delivery.
Not really sure about it... Maybe ashamed is a strong word. Just seeking some answer to clear my doubt as I love the A340-500.
Tsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8054 times:
Apparently SGA now has the Leadership titles removed as well.
Dont think the Airbus or Boeing logos or titles ever featured on the newer SIA models. You dont see a B747-400 on the Megatops, neither do you see a B777 on the Triple seven, heck SIA even removed the RR logos on the 777 engines!
Dont think a removal of a title, or the lack of the display of a title indicates that an airline is ashamed to operate it. Think of the SIA advertisements where they proudly advertise the non-stop SIN-LAX service as being flown by an AIRBUS A345LeaderShip.
9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8012 times:
If SIA is so ashamed of the airbus, then god they better not take the delivery of the A380 otherwise SIA will this and that bla bla bla......
I just can't see a problem with SIA removing the "leadership" title. Maybe passenger does not appreciate the word "leadership"? Maybe SQ thinks that the "leadership" has had its effects already and now is the tiime to remove it? Maybe SQ reckons that they could find a better name instead rather than "leadership"?
At least it's obvious that SQ is still operating the A345 at present, and also in the future. SQ has never complained anything about the A345, well at least we could not hear much. I'm pretty confident that SQ will keep the A345s, not forever but at least in the further future because there are no planes at the moment that could replace them.
UALongHaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6211 times:
What does LEADERSHIP have to do with Airbus in the first place? Is MEGATOP a Boeing name? Jubilee? What exactly are you saying. The LEADERSHIP logo obviously has a covering over it. People already know it is a airbus by the small cabin size, let alone those tiny engines. Ha just kidding well i am not but kind of am.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2958 posts, RR: 30 Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5491 times:
If SIA is ashamed of flying Airbus, then why would they go ahead and buy the A340-500 and place orders for the A380??
Im sure passengers would know what airplane they are flying once they get inside the aircraft and see the emergency cards. Most people don't care what aircraft they are flying as long as it gets them to where they are going. And I think they wouldn't care about the name the airplane has, "mega top" or "Leadership".
I'm sure SIA has it's reasons for removing logos and names from its aircraft .
Andrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 457 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5372 times:
Yes. Finally some people replied with posts that make sense and not just to stir trouble.
I know passengers will know the type printed on the Emergency cards but maybe the cards are changed also...
Ultimately I am just asking WHY SIA is removing the AIRBUS logo and Airbus name on the plane they just spent lots of effort and money promoting. It's just like earlier asked why Leadership is removed as this does bring me to think if this has something got to do with Mr B
Some people mentioned arguement internally and led to removal of the Leadership name. But still it dont make sense applying the word AIRBUS A340-500 and later change it to A340-500 for no economical reason. Is the word AIRBUS so strong that they need to remove it?
SIA is not an airline that does stupid thing so I just want to know if anyone knows the answer. If you don't and find this stupid, then just leave.
Propulsion From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 294 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5201 times:
I don't think simply removing a title indicates an airlines' dissatisfaction with an aircraft. It certainly does not mean SIA are ashamed of flying Airbuses.
Moreover, it is not as though the 'Leadership' title is some petty primary school-like award in recognition of being 'good' that may then be removed where circumstances render the A340-500 as having 'not been good' and undeserving of such an accolade thereafter. The titles have not gone to another aircraft type.
I suggest a more reliable sign of dissatisfaction would be an airlines desire to dump a particular type of plane as soon as is possible - something which we shall of course have to what and see for in the case of SIA's A340-500 fleet.
A bus is a vehicle that runs twice as fast when you are after it as when you are in it.
Daumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 677 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4936 times:
"ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board flight SQ xxx from SIN to LAX - this aircraft which type we're ashamed off has got 8 emergency exits..." - don't think so
UALongHaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4692 times:
"UALongHaul :
I don't understand what you are trying to say. ? Sorry but can you rephrase your sentences ?
Tiny engines ? If the A345's engines are tiny, then what is A343's engines ?"
I was not really saying anything of any value. Engines are appear small when sitting next to a 777.
Are they working on a new Decal for the Leadership or something? I see no real reason that they would be taken off other than something asthetic. Maybe Airbus ripped them off and they do not want to advertise?
I do not think any clear reason exists for this. I will check in EWR to see what is on the plane on the 28th.
25 Solnabo: Some puzzling info about RR Trent 550: Its 9000 nm (16.600km) to EWR from SIN, but the max.range for 345 is 8.650 mn? Are the Trent 550 better than RR
26 Pacific: SIA's A345s carry around 200 pax at full load, might be even less than 200! I'm sure it's payload restricted as well therefore the increase in range.
27 Leskova: Solnabo, not really - SQ only has less passengers on the A345 than the configuration that Airbus uses as an example to get the 8650nm range: less pass
28 N243NW: What about simple economics, people? I mean, it's the airline's choice of having certain manufacturer's stickers on the aircraft, but another sticker
30 Kavirajkhadun: I think SIA is making a big fuss here..Who told them to acquire A340 aircrafts anyway?????
31 Mandala499: In the words of one SQ employee... "This cost cutting has gone too far to make sense..." Mandala499
32 Leskova: Well, SIA isn't making a big fuss of it at all - they, as far as I know, are keeping completely quite so far as to why they've made these changes... a
33 ConcordeBoy: Its 9000 nm (16.600km) to EWR from SIN Actually, try 8285nm (by the GC)
34 ConcordeBoy: SIA's A345s carry around 200 pax at full load, might be even less than 200! yes, 181 seats
35 Solnabo: According to SQ´s website it says 9000 nm (16.000 km) EWR-SIN...... Dont know who to belive, but it sounds more likely with 8285 nm so I´ll go with
36 ConcordeBoy: According to SQ´s website it says 9000 nm (16.000 km) I find it rather difficult to believe that they'd divert nearly 800nm off the GC (which is howe
37 Solnabo: C-boy: Go in and have a look about the new flight starting 06-28.... When I looked GCM it was 15.344 km/8285 nm EWR-SIN!! SQ is lying, those ¤%&%¤ *
38 BoeingBus: BREAKING NEWS - They removed the logos because of the added wait.... again, they need to make it to EWR... lol... It is interesting how people read in
39 WhiteHatter: If anything it's just a marketing issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 'Jubilee' stickers come off the 777 fleet either, as they don't really hav
40 Qexonial: Howdy all, I was so excited and happy when SQ named their A340-300E back in 1996 "Celestar". It was a cool name, I thought. Anyway, to those who forgo
41 SQ452: Well taking paint of the body of the plane is a good idea (not that removing "leadership" from the A345 would do much in my opinion) to cut cost, hell
42 N79969: Come on. Anyone with even the slightest interest can figure what kind of airplane they are on by simply asking, by looking at the safety card, or even
43 Mark777300: It's truly just a name that was removed. It means absolutely nothing about what SQ thinks of the A345 or Airbus. It wouldn't surprise me that the reas
44 Buckfifty: Although 800nm seems like a lot, it definitely isn't just 8285nm from SIN-EWR. The route does a lot of twisting and turning flying through Chinese and
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