Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1667 times:
I will never ever fly NWA again, I am so tired of the consistent delays due to weather from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke. They don't even do a damn thing to ease your pain. Flying around MSP, running out of fuel, diverting to Deluth (where the hell is this place) to get more fuel, to fly around MSP some more?!?!? Unbelievable!!! Anyone wanna buy 70k World Perk miles cheap? =)
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
Gee, we all know that AA NEVER-EVER diverts their flights. NWA really should get on the ball here. They had that DC-9 pilot last year who tried to land during the tornado, and GOT IN TROUBLE!! He should have been promoted for the on-time arrival.
Second of all, it is Duluth (DLH)! There is a NWA MX base there. Even still, NW should have given you 10k miles because of the consistent bad weather in the Mid-West. You should be glad they didn't outright cancel your flight. What airline gives credit or additional perks for weather in the US. Hmmmm...none??
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6871 posts, RR: 29 Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1626 times:
Buddy, every airline deals with this mess, its thunderstorm season, you have to deal with it. MSP and DTW are a heck of a lot better than other places like...ORD, PHL, LGA, EWR where they clog up at the slightest drop of rain anywhere east of the Mississippi River it seems.
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
The thing is, that same thing would have happened at any midwestern hub with thunderstorms: ORD (especially), DTW, CLE, CVG, STL, etc. You can't blame the airline for the weather. It's dangerous to fly in severe weather, so delays happen. It's not necessarily NW's, or any airline's, for that matter, fault.
BTW, Duluth is in northeastern Minnesota along Lake Superior.
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
Assuming this was on or near your day, check this thread out. You were not so special. There were a few other flights from other airlines that diverted too. Just be glad you didn't end up in North Dakota.
Filejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 351 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1586 times:
Buddy, There should be pilotless airline just for you that goes thru everything hail, windshear, tornado 's and has a 95 % completion rate.The rest land short...In the woods.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7336 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
I had 2 delays on a 3 day trip. One in DFW and EWR, both due to thunderstorms. You're fortunes could be worse. Passengers were ok about it.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4089 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1526 times:
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Would you rather fly out of ORD and literally have a 10x better chance of delays on AA or UA??? I don't think you should complain. MSP rarely has delays while ORD has constant delays.
AIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
delays due to weather
You may want to send a letter to the weather gods or something, complaining about Northwest won't help since they do not control the weather. Get it?
SR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1702 posts, RR: 42 Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1504 times:
Wow, that sounds horrible. Please don't fly Northworst again. I mean they should have just landed in horrible weather risking yours and everyone else's life just so that the plane could get to the ground on time. We all know this does not happen with quality airlines such as American especially with hubs in DFW and ORD, planes are never diverted.
Also for a future pilot, (that's what is in your profile) I would have expected more level headed thinking.
Either way, please don't fly Northworst again. I think all of us loyal NW flyers deserve to fly in peace and quiet without some hostile maniac next to us ranting on about how the airline is responsible for the weather.
Dtwintlflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1493 times:
Airlines hate delays also !! Not only does it screw things up for the passengers, but it really makes a mess for crew scheduling. Sorry you had a bad experience, I have had to suffer through delays as a passenger on other airlines and my own and as a crew member. I hope it ALL gets better for you. No doubt it has impacted you both for work and on your vacation.
Things can really get you down and cause problems, and rightfully so. In reality though...you could be serving your country overseas , away from your loved one for an extended period of time, or even homeless.. the list goes on Now tell me again how these delays have really ruined your life.
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 641 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1476 times:
from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke.
That is a joke in itself. Northwest does not have a hub in the Northwest. They have hubs in the midwest, the south, and Asia.
Airlines cannot control weather. If they had to compesate people every time there was a weather delay, diversion or cancellation, they would go bankrupt.
Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
These are the kind of posts that make this board sound so childish. We are supposed to know something about aviation and the airlines, but this thread just sounds like the ranting irate pax, who doesn't know the difference between a 747 and a 737.
Go fly AA through DFW a few times or CO through IAH, or DL through CVG, soon you won't have any airlines left to fly on. Sorry, 'bout that, but that's just my 2 cents.
Jjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1430 times:
I think aa777jr, as a multi-engine rated "future AA pilot" per his profile is pulling our chain, so to speak.
AZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 765 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
Another first class thinker to add to the useful threads on this forum.
CaptSkibi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 150 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1322 times:
I just went through four airlines (to end up flying on two) to get from Grand Rapids to Pensacola on Monday, June 14, 2004.
I was supposed to fly UA from GRR to ORD at 1:55PM. That was delayed. Just as we were scheduled to take off, I get a call from NWA. My flight out of ORD to MEM was cancelled.
So, NW books us on DL from GRR to ATL to PNS. Then we got our bags back from UA. Thanks, UA! The DL flight was due to leave at 7:05 PM.
At 4:20, we check the DL site for the flight. GRR to ATL is cancelled. So, DL rebooked us on CO from GRR to CLE, then DL from CLE to ATL to PNS.
We board on time for the CO flight to CLE, but have a 20 minute ground stop due to TSRA at CLE. Our DL flight out of CLE was delayed by 1.5 hours. Our DL flight out of ATL was delayed by 2 hours.
The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter what airline you're flying when it comes to TSRA and other bad weather. They all have their problems. ORD is probably the worst due to all of the intersecting runways. I've had problems at MIA, too. I know people who had very bad problems at MSY and IAH. DTW seems to be pretty good to me, so far, but still, not without weather delays.
Airplanes are required to have a certain amount of reserve. They can only carry so much fuel, too. If they carry too much, then they might exceed the maximum landing weight of the aircraft.
AA777jr, as a pilot myself, I would never want to sit in an airplane with you, let alone if you're flying it. With that kind of attitude and knowledge, let me off! I'll walk.
Private Pilot, Airplane Single Engine Land / DL Gold Elite
MSPXJGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 150 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1304 times:
All I can say is that no one likes delays. It's not as if the airlines do it on purpose. I'm sure they love risking million dollar pieces of equipment and 100+ lives along with their crew so they can get an on time arrival. And I'm sure the counter agents love dealing with crabby people becuase a flight is delayed and they purposely delay it on purpose. And I'm sure the people that get to use the plane once your done with it love waiting and told the airline to send it to DLH because they have time to wait around.
Give me a break. MSP is one of the best airports for dealing with weather problems.
Alphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 936 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1285 times:
70K WorldPerks miles and not one of them earned in the air, obviously.
"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
Taloush From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2001, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1209 times:
Seeing as apparently nobody's asked for them yet...
MMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Aa777jr, I think SAN probably has some of the best weather in the country better start routing all your flights through there. Mind you, if you want to actually end up in MSP then what are you going to do?
Dinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1049 posts, RR: 20 Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1191 times:
I'll give you some money for those miles. What are you asking?
Dinker
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