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NWA Flights From MSP  
User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

I will never ever fly NWA again, I am so tired of the consistent delays due to weather from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke. They don't even do a damn thing to ease your pain. Flying around MSP, running out of fuel, diverting to Deluth (where the hell is this place) to get more fuel, to fly around MSP some more?!?!? Unbelievable!!! Anyone wanna buy 70k World Perk miles cheap? =)

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User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

Gee, we all know that AA NEVER-EVER diverts their flights. NWA really should get on the ball here. They had that DC-9 pilot last year who tried to land during the tornado, and GOT IN TROUBLE!! He should have been promoted for the on-time arrival.

Second of all, it is Duluth (DLH)! There is a NWA MX base there. Even still, NW should have given you 10k miles because of the consistent bad weather in the Mid-West. You should be glad they didn't outright cancel your flight. What airline gives credit or additional perks for weather in the US. Hmmmm...none??

[Edited 2004-06-16 01:04:12]

User currently onlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7598 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

Buddy, every airline deals with this mess, its thunderstorm season, you have to deal with it. MSP and DTW are a heck of a lot better than other places like...ORD, PHL, LGA, EWR where they clog up at the slightest drop of rain anywhere east of the Mississippi River it seems.

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

The thing is, that same thing would have happened at any midwestern hub with thunderstorms: ORD (especially), DTW, CLE, CVG, STL, etc. You can't blame the airline for the weather. It's dangerous to fly in severe weather, so delays happen. It's not necessarily NW's, or any airline's, for that matter, fault.

BTW, Duluth is in northeastern Minnesota along Lake Superior.


R


User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

Assuming this was on or near your day, check this thread out. You were not so special. There were a few other flights from other airlines that diverted too. Just be glad you didn't end up in North Dakota.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1608335/


User currently offlineFilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Buddy, There should be pilotless airline just for you that goes thru everything hail, windshear, tornado 's and has a 95 % completion rate.The rest land short...In the woods.

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
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I had 2 delays on a 3 day trip. One in DFW and EWR, both due to thunderstorms. You're fortunes could be worse. Passengers were ok about it.


Made from jets!
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4405 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2117 times:
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Would you rather fly out of ORD and literally have a 10x better chance of delays on AA or UA??? I don't think you should complain. MSP rarely has delays while ORD has constant delays.


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD.
User currently offlineAIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2104 times:


delays due to weather

You may want to send a letter to the weather gods or something, complaining about Northwest won't help since they do not control the weather. Get it?


User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Wow, that sounds horrible. Please don't fly Northworst again. I mean they should have just landed in horrible weather risking yours and everyone else's life just so that the plane could get to the ground on time. We all know this does not happen with quality airlines such as American especially with hubs in DFW and ORD, planes are never diverted.

Also for a future pilot, (that's what is in your profile) I would have expected more level headed thinking.

Either way, please don't fly Northworst again. I think all of us loyal NW flyers deserve to fly in peace and quiet without some hostile maniac next to us ranting on about how the airline is responsible for the weather.

SR 103


User currently offlineDtwintlflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

Airlines hate delays also !! Not only does it screw things up for the passengers, but it really makes a mess for crew scheduling. Sorry you had a bad experience, I have had to suffer through delays as a passenger on other airlines and my own and as a crew member. I hope it ALL gets better for you. No doubt it has impacted you both for work and on your vacation.

Things can really get you down and cause problems, and rightfully so. In reality though...you could be serving your country overseas , away from your loved one for an extended period of time, or even homeless.. the list goes on Now tell me again how these delays have really ruined your life.


Cheers
Fly Red Tails


User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

from the NWA hubs in the Northwest...what a joke.
That is a joke in itself. Northwest does not have a hub in the Northwest. They have hubs in the midwest, the south, and Asia.

Airlines cannot control weather. If they had to compesate people every time there was a weather delay, diversion or cancellation, they would go bankrupt.



The New American is arriving.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2060 times:

These are the kind of posts that make this board sound so childish. We are supposed to know something about aviation and the airlines, but this thread just sounds like the ranting irate pax, who doesn't know the difference between a 747 and a 737.

Go fly AA through DFW a few times or CO through IAH, or DL through CVG, soon you won't have any airlines left to fly on. Sorry, 'bout that, but that's just my 2 cents.


User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

I think aa777jr, as a multi-engine rated "future AA pilot" per his profile is pulling our chain, so to speak.

joe


User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Another first class thinker to add to the useful threads on this forum.


Kalamazoozoozoozoozoozoozoo
User currently offlineCaptSkibi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

I just went through four airlines (to end up flying on two) to get from Grand Rapids to Pensacola on Monday, June 14, 2004.

I was supposed to fly UA from GRR to ORD at 1:55PM. That was delayed. Just as we were scheduled to take off, I get a call from NWA. My flight out of ORD to MEM was cancelled.

So, NW books us on DL from GRR to ATL to PNS. Then we got our bags back from UA. Thanks, UA! The DL flight was due to leave at 7:05 PM.

At 4:20, we check the DL site for the flight. GRR to ATL is cancelled. So, DL rebooked us on CO from GRR to CLE, then DL from CLE to ATL to PNS.

We board on time for the CO flight to CLE, but have a 20 minute ground stop due to TSRA at CLE. Our DL flight out of CLE was delayed by 1.5 hours. Our DL flight out of ATL was delayed by 2 hours.

The moral of the story is, it doesn't matter what airline you're flying when it comes to TSRA and other bad weather. They all have their problems. ORD is probably the worst due to all of the intersecting runways. I've had problems at MIA, too. I know people who had very bad problems at MSY and IAH. DTW seems to be pretty good to me, so far, but still, not without weather delays.

Airplanes are required to have a certain amount of reserve. They can only carry so much fuel, too. If they carry too much, then they might exceed the maximum landing weight of the aircraft.

AA777jr, as a pilot myself, I would never want to sit in an airplane with you, let alone if you're flying it. With that kind of attitude and knowledge, let me off! I'll walk.



Private Pilot, Airplane Single Engine Land / DL Gold Elite
User currently offlineMSPXJGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 150 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

All I can say is that no one likes delays. It's not as if the airlines do it on purpose. I'm sure they love risking million dollar pieces of equipment and 100+ lives along with their crew so they can get an on time arrival. And I'm sure the counter agents love dealing with crabby people becuase a flight is delayed and they purposely delay it on purpose. And I'm sure the people that get to use the plane once your done with it love waiting and told the airline to send it to DLH because they have time to wait around.

Give me a break. MSP is one of the best airports for dealing with weather problems.


User currently offlineAlphascan From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 937 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

70K WorldPerks miles and not one of them earned in the air, obviously.




"To he who only has a hammer in his toolbelt, every problem looks like a nail."
User currently offlineTaloush From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2001, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Seeing as apparently nobody's asked for them yet...

How much for the 70K WorldPerks miles?

:D

talal/in/a2



Your attention, please.
User currently offlineMMEPHX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

Aa777jr, I think SAN probably has some of the best weather in the country better start routing all your flights through there. Mind you, if you want to actually end up in MSP then what are you going to do?

User currently offlineDinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1064 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

I'll give you some money for those miles. What are you asking?

Dinker



Two rules in aviation, don't hit anything and don't run out of gas, cause if you run out of gas yer gonna hit something.
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