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User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 859 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

There's are some rumours on German internet pages that LTU will start a regular service from Duesseldorf, Germany to New York next summer.
Flight will operate 4 times a week...


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

I think will be good to bring back to JFK again and already served to MIA.

User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Won't Miami be upgraded next season to 2/7?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16228 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Good. Germany is the largest country without a 2nd intl sked carrier. LH could use some domestic competition.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Which German internet pages?????

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Which German internet pages?????

http://www.airliners.de/community/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=18260&forum=1&3

Patrick


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Considering this "source", I would be very cautious to believe it. Unless LTU manages to market the bellyspace of their Airbusses with some very favorable freight rates, I doubt that they would be able to make money on this highly competitive market.

Remember that already LH and CO have pulled out of the DUS-NYC market - and these airlines both had considerably higher passenger feed at one of the ends of the flight.




Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

LTU really wants to grow that is obvious. The question is who they want to attract. Business passengers will not like their frequencies while cities like New York are not exactly typical charter destinations.

Years ago I already talked to friends saying that if it were up to me I would merge LTU with (then still called-) Deutsche BA and build up a "real" airline turning away from the charter network. It would have DUS as main base and be able to serve 15 million people of the Rhein-Ruhr area. Well Deutsche BA is now dba but LTU seems to go in this direction anyways, just without a merger having Air Berlin feed their flights.

Max


User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

So we have one poster quoting another forum. As long as I don't see anything official from LTU I'm not convinced.
I'm not sure how they want to make money in this market. Other airlines tried it and failed.


User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

LH could use some domestic competition.

Lufthansa
Air Berlin
dba
Germanwings (ok belongs somewhat to Lufthansa)
gexx
HLX
Easyjet (maybe not yet, but in planning stages)
...

I think thats plenty of competition for a country that is about half as large as Texas.

SailorOrion


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Not so much of a competition if you consider the market share, traffic figures, turnover and profits of the competitors compared to LH.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

@FraT:

I can't really believe it, too  Smile
Think the author of this rumour isn't the best source.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Considering the author of that source in the other forum is a schoolkid, who is quite infamous for his rarely fact-based pro-DUS cheerleading, one should be extremely cautious.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

For all German speaking members, look at the thread on Airliners.de (link in reply no. 5), it has become a complete flamefest  Laugh out loud.

Patrick


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4692 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

... and I have to admit that I am one of the flamers, although I am trying to remain constructive and follow a logical line of argumentation (as it should be the case in any aviation related discussions anyways). Big grin



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

Won't Miami be upgraded next season to 2/7?


It alreayd has been upgraded. LTU is now operating MIA-DUS on Tuesdays and Fridays, both year-round. They are also now flying MIA-MUC on Wednesdays, year-round.

It's awesome that LTU is looking at NYC. I definitley think they can make it work.



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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

There is correct for LT is used them with DUS-MIA for once in the weekly. I remember while back was use service to MIA.

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