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LAX- SIN IN 747-400  
User currently offlineElcapi1980 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Is this route possible with a 747-400?



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Not even remotely. Not even half empty with a 747-400ER.

The route requires an A340-500 or a 777-200LR.

N

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 8803 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

The proposed B 747 Advanced can..... Also the shelved B 747-500 as well as B 747X.....

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Only empty...and likely with extra tankage.....
and maybe not at that...

Didn't Qantas do LHR-SYD with an empty -400 on delivery?

User currently offlineElcapi1980 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

just to know....the info about the 747-400ER says that the range of this aircraft is 7670nm (sin-lax 7606), in addition the capacity of this aircraft if 416pax . Sq configuration is 316pax in their A340-500, so 100pax + baggage is about 31000lbs less (170lbs*pax + 140lbs bag = 31000lbs)...isn't this a litlle of more range
also how do you get this range from? isn't start engines, taxi, take off, and climb distance included ?



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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

Greg:
True! Qantas 747-400ER LHR-SYD nonstop in early/mid 90´s  Big thumbs up

Mike/SE


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Not even half empty with a 747-400ER.

Only empty...and likely with extra tankage.....
and maybe not at that


While no 747 can viably operate SIN-LAX nonstop in commercial service, your emboldened quotations are going slightly overboard fellas:

Remember that UA used to operate JFK-HKG with a payload restricted 744A, a route that's "only" 607nm longer.





Didn't Qantas do LHR-SYD with an empty -400 on delivery?

Indeed they did.

[Edited 2004-06-18 21:56:08]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1709 times:

Qantas 747-400ER LHR-SYD nonstop in early/mid 90´s

...the 744ER wasn't available in the early/mid 90s  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4492 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Not even remotely. Not even half empty with a 747-400ER.

Only empty...and likely with extra tankage.....
and maybe not at that...

You guys are exaggerating. Not even remotely? only empty? Well it can make it to manila from los angeles...to singapore from manila it is 1300 nautical miles. Not like crossing the street...but let's not underestimate the abilities of the queen of the skies.



And on the return leg, the 747-400ER can in fact do it.




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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

What 747ERXA-SMURF???
There aint gonna be any more 747, exept this 747BALLON  Insane *lol*


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Scarily enough, I'll actually agree with Solnabo--

--dont get me wrong, it'd be fun to see another 747.
Just that considering history and the incredible ability/versatility of the 777 family; just seems that the next 747Adv or whatever the heck they're calling it now is going to be a flop just like all the other proposals.
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