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Ryanair's 737-200 Problem  
User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8007 times:

I haven't been on a FR732 in a while, so I was hoping someone here could help me.

When I was at BLK with the FR flight to STN (the morning one 732 - evening one 738) The FA's were complaining about the 200 series - they said things were falling off it and cracks were appearing around the doors and windows.

Has anyone noticed this? Is this dangerous?


I know FR is replacing it's 200 fleet soon, but not for another year (I think).

Cheers
A320


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7799 times:


Stress cracks have been found in the skin of some of the 732's after their latest respray, so it will probably be only these that are withdrawn. As I understand it, the whole 732 fleet is due to be withdrawn by March 2005.

Dan.



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User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

Thanks for your reply Dan,

I had a feeling it was next year

A320



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7759 times:

Deviating (quite a bit) from the main thread, but I was planning to go to Copenhagen in the end of the summer and wanted to book flights early (for the best deal). Easyjet offer return flights (Stansted-CPH) for £40 inlcuding taxes. Do Ryanair have flights to Copenhagen or one of those 'nearby' airports?


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User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2481 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7742 times:

Try flying to Malmo MMX and cross the Oresund Bridge which will get you to Copenhagen in 30-45 minutes.

User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 956 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7698 times:

Hi Horus,
Ryanair fly to Malmo which is actually in Sweden not Denmark. However don't be put off, the transit time from Malmo airport to Copenhagen city centre is just 40 minutes by dedicated link. This can be quicker than the transit time from LHR or LGW to central London


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7666 times:

320,

Yeah, it will be a shame to lose the 732`s, but I suppose it is what's called "progress". Still, we'll just have to make the most of them whilst we can, I think they are used the most on UK-Ireland, or other short hops such as DUB-BRS. Even the best of pictures don`t do them justice!


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Great photo!

regards

Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7641 times:

Yup, they are great little aircraft and they look great, but being honest, methinks it's time for them to go allright. They are just too noisy for starters and there have been a run of minor tech issues lately.

The aircraft being disposed of now, as plymspotter pointed out, were damaged during a respray where unapproved tools were used by the maintenance contractor. Many are now at Prestwick I believe having been flown at low altitude and unpressurised from Dublin.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7618 times:

Thanks for reminding me about the ones stored at Prestwick Snnams, I had nearly forgotten about them, they are;

EI-CJH
EI-CKQ
EI-CKR
EI-CKS

and there are some more stored at Dublin; EI-CJD and EI-CKP. Expect more to be mothballed as the 738's arrive, 2 more due next month!

Dan.



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User currently offlineAsteriskceo From United States of America, joined May 2004, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7535 times:

wasn't there a crack noticed by an aloha interisland passenger before they took off.

It decompressed at cruise altitude.


User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7448 times:

PlymSpotter,

Yea it's a shame but they are too noisy - you have to shout to talk to the pax your sitting next to Sad

I was on the apron @ BLK with the FR flight (732), and had no ear protectors - so I stood quite far away, but still my ears were in pain after the start-up Sad

Snnams,

Thanks for the info Smile

Asteriskceo,

I think your right - I can't believe only one person died and they managed to land safely  Wow!

A320



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User currently offlineZweed From Netherlands, joined Apr 2004, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7393 times:

on what routes are these aircraft most common?

User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7386 times:

There always on the DUB-BLK-DUB route and the STN-BLK-STN in the morning

You'll see them a lot at MAN as well.

A320



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User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7295 times:

From what I remember reading in this forum, Ryanair were in the process of replacing the 732s when the cracks were found. The damaged aircraft were all retired immediately and some aircraft were leased in to replace these aircraft until their planned replacement.

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I suppose that the FAs were complaining about the 732s that were retired, rather than the ones currently flying, which we hope are still in fine airworthy condition.

Regards,
Craig.


User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7301 times:

Zweed,

Most of the remaining ones are still based at DUB. So, it's likely if you fly Ireland-UK, or Ireland-Charleroi, Girona, Malaga, Faro, Reus or Murcia, you'll fly on one.

All SNN services except CRL also use them, and there are a couple left at STN I believe, but I'm not sure of all the routes they are used on, but I think one of the two daily rotations to Kerry here in Ireland is on a 200.


User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7295 times:

I'll be glad when those things are gone. Every flight I fly out of DUB with FR is on one of those noisy and scruffy aircraft. I feel sorry for the people who fly down to Faro and the south of Spain on them.

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7257 times:

Thanks Boysteve. Do you know how much it'll cost to get from Malmo to Copenhagen? Is it bus or train?


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User currently offlineToddy333 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7194 times:

hi guys... i am pretty sure i flew STN-Turin on a 200 in april so not just the shortest routes....it was old and horrible, nothing worked properly, the PA system screeched whenever an announcement was made, the seats and toilets were in a bad state. bring on the new planes!

[Edited 2004-06-19 15:56:57]

User currently offlineA3204eva From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6997 times:

Craig,

The FA's were complaining about the aircraft they were going back on.

A320



"They have lady pilots......... they're not that good, but they have 'em"
User currently offlineJofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6948 times:

Horus
There are no trains between Sturup and the city of Malmö, so your choices will have to be bus or taxi. Then from Malmö to Copenhagen there are busses/trains and whatnot =)
However, on Sturups homepage they advertise something called "Gråhundbus" and it's a direct buslink between Sturup and Copenhagens central station, twice a day in connection with Ryanairs movements. It takes 50 minutes. I don't know the price.


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6928 times:

Thanks for the info Jofa


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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6730 times:

Maybe the issue is that it's a 737-200??? A very old a/c........ Like any other a/c it will still have issues..

Ua777222



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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

Although Ryanair's 732s are all of relatively young '80s-build, their airframe hours are high and the abusive LCC operations accelerate ageing through short fllights and rapid turnarounds. Above all, as far as latest noise regulations are concerned, FR's 732s have to be the worst offenders in Western Europe. I'm surprised so many were found to have cracks, given that Lufthansa are supposed to maintain them, aren't they?

XV




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User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

It's also funny the way a lot of the 'fasten seat belt' signs are in a foreign language on the FR -200's, eg quite a few Dutch ones on the ex-Transavia aircraft, German on the ex-Lufthansa ones, etc.

User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6440 times:

@Horus

FLYBUS 737 about 10EURO

Check this! http://www.ryanair.com/dest/copenhagentime.html


25 Airblue : Just to update about FR B732s. Now there are on service only 14 out of 21 B732s. 10 based in DUB (1 used as bank up plane) 2 based in STN 1 based in S
26 A3204eva : I had no idea Lufthansa maintained FR. Do they use there flight simulators for training too? A320
27 A340600 : Guys if you want to see or fly the -200 GUARENTEED then fly LGW-DUB-LGW or vice versa. All of thweir many routes are -200's, no -800's here at the mo,
28 Post contains images FJWH : I'll be flying FR: STN - PGF| FR936 | 6 July PGF - STN| FR935 | 4 August After reading this topic and replies.....: can someone please tell me I'm not
29 EGHHwizard : I was surprised to see the other day that Ryanair seem to be operating a 732 on their Bournemouth - Girona Routes. They always used to use a 738 on th
30 Post contains images A3204eva : They updated the 733 on the STN-BLK-STN route at night, to a 738 Much better - but the morning flight is still a 732 A320
31 Post contains images CON207 : FR are also at NEMA operating three flights a day. The 732's seem to be used for the bulk of the work but an occaisional 738 comes in. You can tell th
32 Pe@rson : I'd personally much rather fly on an older and noiser 732 than a dull and boring 738. Long live the 732!
33 Snnams : To those questioning why Lufthansa didnt sort out the cracks: it wasnt their doing, as explained above. A maintenance contractor were responsible for
34 CKT523 : if you stand in the beer garden of The Airport pub at the threshold of runway 24 at MAN, and wait till you're behind an FR732 and its amazing! The flo
35 Post contains images A3204eva : CKT523, I know what you mean, I've stood under one when landing - just a few feet above me A320
36 Richard28 : I flew a Ryanair 732 yesterday, and it was showing the years, and was very scruffy on the inside, mind you, that morning I had arrived into LHR in Upp
37 Luxair66 : The DUB-LTN service is definitely still a 732. The 733 (pictured above) and the 734 were acquired as part of the Buzz takeover and not as replacements
38 Lowsonboy : A340600 is right, this summer there are 6 FR 732 flights from Gatwick every day, this has goine up from 4 738 flights last year. These a/c are even lo
39 Post contains images AirPortugal310 : Any reason the FA's are just out there blatanly discussing these problems near passengers, where this is the last thing they would ever want to hear?
40 Asteriskceo : http://69.57.136.18/cvrfiles2//aloha243.wav and than an excerpt from aloha.net: "After the accident, a passenger stated that as she was boarding the a
41 Pimpy69 : i think that all the Ryanair flights to Dublin from edinburgh are operated by 732s, as i fly this route quite a bit - don't see the point in paying ex
42 Airblue : Here for anyone is interested the physical rotation of the FR B737/200s fleet three friday ago: 1) DUB-BRS-D-BLK-D-BHX-D-LGW-D-BHX-D-LPL-DUB 2) DUB-ST
43 JCS : Does Ryanair (or any other EU LCC) have serious accidents until now? I know stories of years ago (LCC was not yet as common in EU) of fire in the cabi
44 Post contains images A3204eva : AirPortugal310, Im not a passenger - it was said on the Apron. (if you check my occupation) JCS, I think there was one that leaked oil or something al
45 EGFF : It's a real shame for this aircraft to be fading out of the Ryanair fleet, i have been lucky enough to fly FR 732's on numerous occasions and i think
46 WhiteHatter : Those 732s were, in their day, a great little people mover. But seeing as they won't be able to fly within Europe from next year, then they sadly have
47 Capital146 : I understand a couple more (perhaps even 3?) of the 732's were retired from the FR fleet over the past week or two as more 738's were delivered.
48 Shankly : Why anyone could get excited about flying on a 732 anymore is beyond me. They are becomming junk and are not particularly pleasant to sit on for 2hrs.
49 Capital146 : Apparantly it was -CJE (Jaguar livery) and -CJF which flew their final FR services in the past few days. The Jag livery was great, shame one of the 73
50 NIKV69 : The 732 needs to go, it's old and it's a dinosaur. Period.
51 Post contains images A3204eva : I must say...I do like the Jaguar livery A320
52 BuyantUkhaa : The only time I flew on a 732 as far as I am aware was in 1998 on Malev AMS-BUD-SOF (very same plane for the two flights). Malev approaches to BUD are
53 Post contains images Gilesdavies : The Jaguar Livery is pretty cool but would look better on their 738's. It's a bit like putting go faster stripes on a boy racers clapped out Vauxhall
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