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New AA Terminal At JFK  
User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5753 posts, RR: 47
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7623 times:

Just curious but does any one the current building status of AA new terminal at JFK and when it is expected to be complete?  Confused


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User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7567 times:

Sometime in 2007 but depending on AA financial situation
at the time. It is already a year behind schedule.


User currently offlineJfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3452 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7518 times:

I want to know where the link/souce is that said there will be no regional gates on the terminal. It was supposed to have 15-18 eagle gates. After Eagle reduced ops at JFK, it was said that the gates were scrapped. I do believe it, but I'd believe it more if there was a link. It was supposed to be a 56 gate terminal. If it now will have only 35 gates--what was the point? Why would AA spend $1.3 billion on a terminal that has only 10 more gates than their old terminals?

Please no rumors--just supply a link!  Smile

PJ


User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7508 times:

Welcome aboard with a.net today!!!  Smile

User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7385 times:

Not a rumor, but we are to move to the new terminal in April of 2004. They say they will open it up in stages. I will try to find a link.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7375 times:

AA767400-
April of 2004 was 2 months ago...
Did you mean something else?
please clarify.



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User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7365 times:

Sorry! Just woke up this morning..... Smile I meant 2005, still looking for a link.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineB777fa From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7273 times:

Yes the satellite terminal is to open up first early next year I believe...Will try to find out more info when I go to work today.

User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5753 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7162 times:

Thanks for the welcome. This is my post. Looking forward to great discussions!


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User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5753 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7137 times:

Is the terminal still planned to be as big as Giant Stadium? Are there gong to be any regional gates at all?I saw it a few weeks ago and it looks to be taking shape. I heard that the midfield terminal will be opening soon but that AA asked the construction to be slowed down; the construction companies were really building it so fast and meeting and exceeding goals that triggered bonus payments...not good for an airliine that's loosing money)! It looks to be a really great looking terminal. Now if the PA can rebuild terminals 2,3,5,6, and 7 and have train that goes direct to Manhattan ala Heathrow Express. Love the ability to check in at Paddington and not have to worry about my bags until I get them at JFK!


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6926 times:

The aviation industry, American Airlines, and the WORLD are alot different now then when AA launched the JFK Terminal redevelopment program in 1999.

The changes AA's is making with regards to the new Terminal's final design reflect new realities, it still will be JFK's premier Terminal when complete.

T-1, T-4 and the new AA T-8 will mark a significant change in JFK's aesthitics and practicality, the less terminals the better (for travelers).

The Port Authority is going ahead with plans to remake T5/6 into a single modern terminal with the core of the land mark T-5 building incorporated even if only for non aviation use.

That leaves only T2/3, which DL will spend money to fix the HVAC, update restrooms and modernize the baggage system.

The direct oneseat ride to Manhattan on the Airtrain will happen, but not untill sometime after 2012.



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6900 times:

STT-When the one-seat airtrain ride is done, does that mean the LIRR connection will be cut (much to the dismay of us Long Islanders)?


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6875 times:

No, the Airtrain will physically connect to LIRR's tracks at Jamaica station where connections from other Long Island lines can be made.

The trains would then either run into NY Penn or Lower Manhattan via a new tunnel from the Atlantic Ave branch to Fulton street.

The process is not going to be easy as several enginering and design obstacles must be cleared.

Airtrain's are automated, LIRR are not.

The Airtrain cars can run on the LIRR system, but they do not meet Federal crash standards that the larger MU LIRR cars have so a hybrid Airtrain vehicle to bridge to the two systems must be developed.

Besides the technological challenges there's also physical constraints, the Airtrain cannot operate to NY Penn until space is opened up when the LIRR starts sending some trains to Grand Central via the East Side Access project which will not be complete until 2012.

For the Airtrain to operate to Lower Manhattan a new East River tunnel mus t be built, with a price tag of $6 Billion that may have to wait until funding can be established.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6526 times:

What will become of the magnificent stained glass window on the AA terminal? I've heard its the biggest in the world.

User currently offlineWorkbench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

AA will be out of business LONG before the new terminal is done. My guess is this will be B6's new home. B6 can then launch an aggressive flight schedule across the atlantic with new airbus widebodie.

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6432 times:

Workbench-Where's the punchline? American is, with the possible exception of Continental, the Legacy carrier on the sturdiest ground. Plus, jetBlue is rebuilding the Trans-World international terminal, and the resulting combined international/domestic terminal will likely be larger than the new American terminal, plus with the possibility for handling international flights. And what Airbus widebodies are jetBlue bringing in? The only aircraft type that I know of that will be new to the jetBlue fleet is the narrower-body E-190's...sorry, but American will eventually be using the new Terminal 8/9 complex...


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6085 times:

"and the resulting combined international/domestic terminal will likely be larger than the new American terminal"

The Jetblue T5/6 project will have 23 gates when complete, compared to AA's 35 gates when T8 is complete.

However LCCs such as B6 and WN have quick turn arounds and their aircraft have a much shorter gate dwell time compared to airlines like AA with larger 757s and 777s which take twice as long to turn around as a A320 or 737NG.

Which means B6 will most likely be handling more flights out of their 23 gates in a few years than AA will be from their 35 gates.

I don't see B6 operating anything but Carribean and Canadian flights for the next decade.



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User currently offlineWorkbench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6074 times:

SHUPirate1-

AA has addmitted it self that they will likely loose $1.6B this year due to high fuel prices. AA had only $3B in the bank before the start of this year (ALL borrowed money.) Plus AA has the highest debt in the world (over $22B) They cannot stay in business. It is mathamatically impossible. My math teach even told me that! Infact AA only has 18% cash reserves- extremely dangerous. While B6 has 51% cash reserves.
I dont think fuel prices will ever come down to the point where they (AA and legacy carriers) can make money at current ticket prices. LCC can cause they are much smarter and more effishent at running a bizness. I may be off on my timing, but most if not all legeacy carries will go away.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6050 times:

STT-Is that the combined T5/6 project? I thought it was 23 for T5, and then remodeling T6 separately, with something fairly similar to the 16 that are there now...


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User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

Workbench, First off, you need some soap in that mouth. Second, You can't just go and say something so ridiculous, with no meaning. So sad to have hate issues at such a young age.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6032 times:

Therapist Joe says:

From the sounds of it, it almost seems like something happened on AA that scarred you for life. Something major must have happened...your mother wasn't on AA587 was she?

(Anybody who watches Blind Date gets the Therapist Joe reference)



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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Workbench.....Grow up man! A.net Is here for fun and opinions. If you are right, say "I told you so". If you are wrong, bite the bullet and admit " I was wrong". No need to swear on here.

You should be booted off in my opinion!

ASSFO



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User currently offlineJetbluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2981 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5996 times:

If the new terminal is going to be bigger than the current one, does that mean that they'll be adding more international flights or more domestic flights? I personally guess it depends on their financial situation, but I'm sure they'll be profitable by 2007.

JetBluefan1



Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5965 times:


AA will be out of business LONG before the new terminal is done. My guess is this will be B6's new home. B6 can then launch an aggressive flight schedule across the atlantic with new airbus widebodie.

FUCK YOU....You know its true AA is going BYE BYE...Long live B6

They cannot stay in business. It is mathamatically impossible. My math teach even told me that!


Let's see: You are a 13-15 year old kid who's been here since 1999. So that means that means you joined when you were 7-10 years old. That does seem like a TOS violation.

Your English is nothing short of awful and you have yet to formulate a single sentence that does not have a slew of grammatical errors.

Furthermore, you insult your fellow users with inappropriate language. Somebody should school you, son. And, I'm not talking about your "math teach".

What you do post can, frankly, only be labeled pure "bull crap". Made up figures mixed with nothing but made up lies does not equal a quality post. After five years, and posts like that, it is not a wonder why you RU rating is a big fat zero.

Please leave these forums you troll.


User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

Flyboy, Workbench, even I'll take my own advice here (I was actually doing what I could to help, although it likely didn't come out this way) can we all be constructive here and stick to the topic, rather than getting into an argument over the credibility of Workbench's posts?

Administrators: Please make this message self-destruct along with the other posts from Reply 20 (where Workbench decides to speak in a manner that would offend and scar for life our younger audiences) if they are not germaine to the original topic. Thank you...



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25 Copaair737 : Workbench, why dont you just leave, and go back to playing with your dolls or something. You obviously aren't mature enough to post on here, so why no
26 Jsnww81 : I'll ignore Workbench's predictably childish AA diatribe and try to get the thread back on topic: I seem to recall hearing that the stained-glass mura
27 LMP737 : Workbench: Thank you for showing everyone you're true nature and proving my point. BRAVO!!!!
28 AAR90 : Can we all get past Workbench's problems? According to his bio this individual hasn't even been alive for as long as I've been employed at AA. In fact
29 LMP737 : After looking at workbench's bio I don't think he's that young. His age says 13-15, however he joined in 1999. So at the very least he is seventeen. O
30 Cx123 : Last time when I was at JFK in the AA terminals, it looked like a complete shi7hole! I just cannot believe a country like US who claim to be such grea
31 LMP737 : Cx123: When was the last time you were in the AA terminal at JFK? And how many other AA terminals have you been in?
32 Ripcordd : Cx123 you are just like workbench you hate AA and just about everything you say about them is negative. Lets face AA isn't the largest carrier in the
33 Flyboy36y : Rpipcordd, He's right about the old AA terminals at JFK. And I love AA.
34 Cx123 : I travelled from JFK-BOS in Dec 2003 Back then the International terminal was still under rennovation, but the domestic is..... I am not trying to be
35 Shlomoz : In general, AA's terminals in the whole NYC area are sorely lacking and not appropriate for the world's largest airline. I happen to be an AA fan and
36 Cx123 : Thankyou Shlomoz for stating the TRUTH. I am just surprised at how people in US can tolerate such shi* facilities and have to pay for it (the Admirals
37 Post contains images Aa767400 : Don't worry Cx123, AA will have a civilized terminal next year, Where you can have some afternoon tea before you depart for HKG. All jokes aside, Hope
38 Flyboy36y : Actually, I allways liked AA at LGA.
39 Cx123 : Aa767400, When I get the CX831 from JFK-HKG, I might pop by to have a look (Are the Oneworld Shuttle Bus still operating between T7 and T8/9??) Why di
40 IAHAAPlatinum : There's good reason that Workbench is now banned.
41 Jetbluefan1 : I went to the AA terminal at JFK in May of 2002. The baggage claim seemed old and looked dirty. The tv screens had "A_eri_an" or "_merican" written on
42 STT757 : SHUPirate1, T6 will be torn down, as will the concourses of T5. A new terminal to be built behind T5 will have 23 gates.
43 Juanchie : While we are discussing AA terminals, which terminal in BOS is being built/refurbished? Was it AA or US? I can't remember and I dont hear about it all
44 STT757 : DL is building a brand new Terminal in BOS, they tore down the old Terminal A (Eastern Airlines) terminal and are building a brand new building.
45 Juanchie : AAAhhhhh... I remember now. How far along is that terminal in BOS? Are talking opening soon or a repeat of the big dig. haha... just kidding. Juan Car
46 Cx123 : I went to Terminal E on BA in December. They just reburbished the terminal. ( I remembered when I was @ Harvard, I travelled on AC to YUL. And Termina
47 777gk : STT757- Wasn't there a problem that the Airtrain gauge wasn't compatible with LIRR or MTA track, therefore making a single-seat link impossible?
48 Cx123 : Hello Guys, I actually just read the whole thread and realised who Workbench is. It is funny, however there are a few points he raised that is interes
49 Stirling : I seem to be 'browser-retarded' this evening...Can one of ya fellas put a good link up here, so I can visualize what y'all are talking about. What was
50 Post contains images Aa767400 : Cx123, What Workbench says is a bunch of rubbish. And if AA goes down, What airline will take it's place? Hoping that you don't think that what he say
51 Jfklganyc : To answer some above questions. The Airtrain is the same guage as NYC subway and LIRR tracks. They did this on purpose to eventually create a one-seat
52 VirginFlyer : Are there any websites out there with plans/pictures of the new AA terminal, and other expansions at JFK? Cheers, V/F
53 Cx123 : Aa767400 All I saying the points he raised = interesting, but not neccesary correct.
54 MIASkies : Hmm I always love how people on here seem to get WAY OFFFFFF the topic. The topic is not JETBLUE vs AA, we all know who is the real airline there, reg
55 Nyc777 : Herre's a link with some pics of the terminal going up. I know that AA had some pics of the terminal model back in '97 or '98 when they decided to bui
56 Hz747300 : Was there this weekend going back and forth btw JFK and YUL. It looks sharp! Can't wait to see it in action!
57 Stirling : nyc77- thanks for the link....stupid questions, but I've never seen JFK. EWR yes, JFK no. So this is being constructed in the space between 8 and 9? W
58 STT757 : The new terminal is replacing AA's current terminals 8 and 9, as the new terminal is built the old terminal is torn down. The designation will be T8.
59 Rjpieces : Somebody above said the AA gate area at JFK looks straight out of 1972.....I was just wondering if it is older looking than T2/T3.....I probably won't
60 STT757 : The original plan for the new Terminal to replace T6 and part of T5 was to include Jetblue, UAL and TWA (possibly even HP). The terminal would have ha
61 Post contains images Jfklganyc : "Also, was there ever a plan discussed to build one large terminal to house BA/UA/OtherT7 airlines, and Jetblue? If they built one large terminal ther
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