MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72 Posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5145 times:
The last flight for American Airlines' Fokker 100 aircraft will be, as of now, 8 September 2004. It will be AA 2573 from White Plains to O'Hare, departing White Plains at 0933, arriving in O'Hare at 1033.
UAlonghaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5065 times:
American needs to ditch the md80 and f100 family once and for all. Those planes, albeit nice and quiet, are junky old tin cans. Talk about lack of service, even in F class no audio, no video, no meals on most flights. I am glad to see AA is moving one step in the right direction.
Now lose the md80 and i might you fly you once every 10 years.
Blink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4989 times:
The Fokkers are nice aircraft, but I don't want to spend more than two hours on one. They just seemed a bit cramped. I've always liked AA's MD-80s. They don't have the bells and whistles, but they are very quiet(near the front), and have a somewhat open feel to them that I don't find on AA's F100s and 757s (can't speak for the 738s). I have spent 3.5 hours on AA MD-80s before, and I'd gladly do it again.
Kind of unrelated, but does anybody know what will happen to one of the gates at ORD at I believe concourse K right next to the Admirals Club? Last time I was there I thought it could only handle a F100 and it would be a waste to not use the gate. Maybe American Eagle could use it for overflow?
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
N960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4889 times:
Sometimes this forum is just a place where people who fly two roundtrips a year to MCO or some place bash MD80s, espeically AAs.
But can anyone who actually flies them tell me why they're so bad again? I've flown 9 AA MD80 segments since November 03 and I think they're great. Why would you argue with a 2-3 configuration, MRTC, new seats, powerports and an extremely quiet front cabin??? I'll take my ipod and a good book over a drop down screen on a 737NG or A32S with some edited movie any day.
I don't care if it's a 45 min ORD-SLT or an almost 4 hours STL-LAX. Put me on an AA MD80 over any US domestic airline's plane (except AA 767s and 777s).
Jsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2030 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4756 times:
Good God, Airliners.net shuts down for two days and everyone comes back so testy and irritable! I just logged on and I've seen four or five threads already where everyone's lobbing profanities at each other.
It's all a matter of personal preference. I for one love American's MD80s. They're long and narrow, yes, but the MRTC seems to really shine through on them. I also belong to that .001% of Airliners.net users who don't give a damn about in-flight entertainment. I bring a book or, more realistically, look out the window. Reruns of "Three and a Half Men" are not going to elevate an aircraft to my all-time personal favorite. I find the obsession with IFE in these forums a little puzzling.
With the way things are moving in the industry, I'm grateful to get a mainline aircraft at all. I'd much rather take an MD80 than a little tinker-toy regional jet.
As for the Fokkers, they were good little workhorses, but when their retirement was announced 16 months or so ago, American seemed to stop caring about them. The Fokkers I flew on in the past year or so were all dirty and worn-out looking. That could be because the vast majority of them never got the new interiors.
In any case, the Fokkers' retirement means that yet more American stations will lose their mainline service. Oh well, such is the price of progress.
Contrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4728 times:
I've never been particularly crazy about the F-100, but I've tolerated it ok. To me, and I know we all have different ideas about planes, the F-100 always seemed kind of cramped. But since the flights were always short it never actually bothered me that much.
I've flown all across the country on MD-80's, and don't have any particular problem with it. The MD-80 does make a lot more noise on takeoff than the more modern planes, and that may spell big trouble for it in the years ahead. Does anyone know if hush kits are being developed for the MD-80?
What I like about both planes is the 2-3 seating in coach. Whenever I fly on either plane I try to get a seat on the left side (the "2" side).
It seems inevitable that the MD-80 will someday disappear from the skies, just as the 727 has. Too bad.
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5497 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4706 times:
I've flown on only one F**ker 100. It seems like a more modern DC-9. There was a horrible 'out-of-sync' sound coming from the engines and vibriating throughout the cabin when we were on the ground. Glad to say I flew on it, but it wasn't one of my fav's.
Pearyland From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4664 times:
Well, it is true that the MD's are not pretty young aircrafts, but they are my favorites!
I have flown on them many times (mostly on AA). And if you belive it or not: Every time I did sit in one of the last rows next to the engines. Man, this is damn loud and damn cool! In the back you can feel and hear the power of an engine. During Take Off you think that the engine will explode. It is unbelievable. But after two hours of flight you have enough of the sound and you are glad if you are back on earth.
The decision between the back and the forward cabin is more than huge. During one of my flights I walked down to the forward cabin. Even after a few steppes its getting that quit that its understandable that people who are flying on the MD's want to fly in one of the rows in the front
JpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4594 times:
American needs to ditch the md80 and f100 family once and for all. Those planes, albeit nice and quiet, are junky old tin cans. Talk about lack of service, even in F class no audio, no video, no meals on most flights.
OK,UAlonghaul, and the lack of audio, video, and meals is the fault of the MD-80? How could delta have video capabilities in some of their MD-80/90? How could Midwest use the plane to build their trademarks of wonderful full meal service on the MD-80? How could they offer full audio on the MD-80? Its not the plane- its the airline. Get a clue.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8897 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4522 times:
I can't speak for everyone here, but IFE is overrated. I have been on several flights where I could have watched movies (both on overhead or on PTVs) or listened to music (I have a ton of complimentary headphones that I just keep when I fly First Class), but I would guess that about 99% of the time, I just ignore the IFE provided by the airline (the only time I really watch is when it is a movie that I want to see but haven't yet, and the last time that happened on a flight was about 1998). For my IFE, I would prefer to read the newspaper, read a book, play a game on my laptop or PDA, or to actually be productive and do some work, so that when I get to my destination, I might have an extra hour or more, of which I can use to do something fun, such as go to a ballgame if time permits, etc. I have flown about 100 segments on MD-80s (primarily DL, AA, US, and CO), and they are amongst my favourite aircraft (with the 767) if I am in coach, as there is the 2-3/3-2 seating, and on AA, I get MRTC (that's why I would like to switch over to AA, but BOS-LGA is Eagle while DL offers 738s with their "MRTC"/Shuttle Config, and when I move to GSO, they only have Eagle to DFW).
Anyway, back to the Fokkers...I'm not too saddened to see them go. They did serve a niche market well, and I think that if/when AA can get their finances in order, they might order the 717 (that is a ways off, if ever, from happening...let's not speculate on that yet...). Unfortunately, for AA, Fokker went out of business, which certainly did not help the type...At least a lot of these planes aren't heading to the desert yet, as I know Hevetia (sp?) and JetsGo are taking on quite a few of the 75...(Isn't Austrian taking some on too?)
AIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4494 times:
I can't speak for everyone here, but IFE is overrated.
I second that.
I would gather all the "can't live without it" IFE people on this site; but them in a plane (777?) with PTV's... after take-off (I'm the No. 1 F/A), start programming and then just turn it off and say it broke and tell everyone to sit down and shut up (and enjoy the ride). LOL!
In any case: out of my official 11 F-100 segments I've been on, I will really miss the plane. My most recent was DTW-ORD-HPN-ORD. I took in every minute of my last few rides on Barbie's Dream Jet.