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LCC's Are A Fungus...no offense  
User currently offlineAirtahitinui From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2001, 79 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

...that grow on proud historic airports. The orange and red colored fungus on the back of a sleazy motel shower curtain is much more appealing than the newest southwest flying trash bin. The caliber of LCC passengers is so low I'm surprised grayhound hasn't thrown its hat in the airline business. Guess I should give up, gain 500 pounds, loose all but one tooth, board barefoot, gawk at the pretty wings an wonder why they don't flap, argue when I discover there's no 4-course meal for a $5 plane ticket, and become a southwest/jetblue/[add cheap, no-class, sub-human airline here].

By the way, I HATE LCCs! A world with LCCs is not worth living in. The sweet color of blood running from my wrists is far more enjoyable than any ride on those sorry excuses for an airline. Yes they make money, but so do drug dealers -- making money doesn't make it right.

Boycott all LCCs NOW! Support America, support freedom, support life as we know it, support the big corporate airlines: AA, Air Tahiti and everybody else that's not a LCC...


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User currently offlineCx123 From Australia, joined May 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

Why should you support Substandard airlines when there are better alternatives.
I personally don't like LCCs but look at some of your major US airlines. They are really no better than some of the LCC. In fact some of the LCC (eg. B6) are much better is terms of overall service, product offerings and the total package.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6791 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

LCC are to airlines, as Generic drugs are to Pharmaceutical companies. They are a necessary alternative. And doens't everybody need alternatives? Unless everybody is going to get a governmental supplement for airline prices, fares need to be at a rate that is affordable for everyone. Which is why LCC won't be going anywhere, anytime soon. Sorry.


Aiming High and going far..
User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Welcome to my Respected Users List Airtahitinui.......you are so correct!!

User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5960 times:

are you nuts? you need something to do.


Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1001 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

The orange and red colored fungus on the back of a sleazy motel shower curtain is much more appealing than the newest southwest flying trash bin.

When I was about 12 or so, I worked my ass off to scrap up enough money to pay for a round-trip ticket (DAL-HOU) on WN. My family was huge, so we never got to fly anywhere for vacation. I think it was about $70 round trip, which for a 12 year old in 1991 was an enourmus sum.

My very first flight *ever* was with WN, and at the time, that was a big deal for me. So I take a degree of offense to your blanket statement of Southwest. Since then, I have had nothing but enjoyable flights with WN.

Yes they make money, but so do drug dealers -- making money doesn't make it right.

And going bankrupt, floudering in mismanegment, while the workers get screwerd jusitify me sending my business to a major? WN, and most other LCCs, *want* your business and treat you accordingly. WN flight attendents are polite, curtious, and energetic and not to mention efficent. And check the payscale of a WN pilot versus a UAL pilot (for the 737 ofcourse)

Welcome to my Respected Users List Airtahitinui.......you are so correct!!

I wish I had a Disrespected User list, or maybe a Dennis Miller inspired "You are an asshole" sticker


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

I'm surprised grayhound hasn't thrown its hat in the airline business

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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5925 times:

I am going to echo CanadaEH statement.


I say that we ask the mods at the end of the year to release the list of the worst posts for the year. Right now this on has won it hands down.



Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

...that grow on proud historic airports. The orange and red colored fungus on the back of a sleazy motel shower curtain is much more appealing than the newest southwest flying trash bin. The caliber of LCC passengers is so low I'm surprised grayhound hasn't thrown its hat in the airline business. Guess I should give up, gain 500 pounds, loose all but one tooth, board barefoot, gawk at the pretty wings an wonder why they don't flap, argue when I discover there's no 4-course meal for a $5 plane ticket, and become a southwest/jetblue/[add cheap, no-class, sub-human airline here].

I've never flown WN, but somehow I doubt that stereotype is true. B6 has a cult following in NYC--Many wealthy yuppie New Yorkers will always fly B6 now. There is no way to label all the LCCs as the same. And frankly, unless you are flying upfront, I'd prefer B6 over US, DL,etc mainline anyday.

By the way, I HATE LCCs! A world with LCCs is not worth living in. The sweet color of blood running from my wrists is far more enjoyable than any ride on those sorry excuses for an airline. Yes they make money, but so do drug dealers -- making money doesn't make it right.

Somehow, drug dealers isn't the best analogy to Low Cost Carriers...............

Boycott all LCCs NOW! Support America, support freedom, support life as we know it, support the big corporate airlines: AA, Air Tahiti and everybody else that's not a LCC...

Amazing how in the same sentence you say support America and fly Air Tahiti. .............I'm curious, how often do you fly? Somehow, I have the feeling you talk the talk, and then only book the lowest available fares on majors. If so, to them you might as well be flying WN.

P.S. Where do you live in Brooklyn?


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5889 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Classic response. Attack that which you do not understand, cannot match, and cannot outlast. And ask for government loan guarantees along the way.

User currently offlineTasha From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5872 times:

Cx123:

"I personally don't like LCCs but look at some of your major US airlines. They are really no better than some of the LCC. In fact some of the LCC (eg. B6) are much better is terms of overall service, product offerings and the total package"

Here we disagree once again. There are many airlines from many parts of the world - including Australia - which do not compare favorably to some U.S. airlines. There are some U.S. based airlines that I have flown on and I simply did NOT enjoy it. There are others that were brilliant in both product and service. Continental is an enigma. I find their ground staff incompetent at best, but their aircrews are fabulous!

There are some carriers that I feel are overrated - BA and AF being first choices. Opinions differ!

Tasha  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

Wow, I don't recall ever seeing so many users risk suspension to curse out someone!

User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1140 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5793 times:

I think Airtahitinui was just being playful and sarcastic... Albeit what his real message was trying to be, just doesn't get across... Oh, well.

Choices... That's the magic. Flying F class on a legacy carrier versus a LCC... It is a daily item, like choosing a good USDA-choice sirloin or a trendy weird macrobiotic undefinable dish, or deciding to drive a Range Rover or an overperforming Korean what's-its-name SUV... Mozart or Eminem?

Fact is, LCC's have reshaped the airline industry, and regardless we like them or not, they are here to stay, at least until the next major air transport revolution, and for as long as there are passengers paying for their own tickets...

<< ...A world with LCCs is not worth living in. The sweet color of blood running from my wrists is far more enjoyable than any ride on those sorry excuses for an airline... >>

We must admit, this is very poetic... A fine piece of writing, at least.

<< Please, enjoy killing yourself. >>

Priceless!!

I've had my dosis of good laughing tonight. This has been a very pleasant diversion... Off I go.

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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5789 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Boycott all LCCs NOW! Support America, support freedom, support life as we know it, support the big corporate airlines

You really don't get it, do you?

WN: An American corporation, contributing to the freedom to go wherever you want in the USA cheap. As for big corporate airlines...

AA market capitalization: $1.8bil
UA market capitalization: Not applicable. None.
DL market capitalization: $0.8bil
NW market capitalization: $0.9bil
CO market capitalization: $0.7bil
US market capitalization: $0.1bil
B6 market capitalization: $2.9bil
F9 market capitalization: $0.4bil
FL market capitalization: $1.2bil
AS market capitalization: $0.6bil
OO market capitalization: $1.0bil
RU market capitalization: $0.6bil
RP market capitalization: $0.4bil
YV market capitalization: $0.3bil
Total for above carriers: $11.7bil

WN market capitalization: $12.39bil. More than everyone else, combined. Doesn't get more big-business than that.


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

It look like this Airtahitinuni is going to be lynched at the rate the comments are going. Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin


Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5677 times:

"Boycott all LCCs NOW! Support America, support freedom, support life as we know it, support the big corporate airlines: AA, Air Tahiti and everybody else that's not a LCC..."

Ok, I love LCC's, just not WN. But my main Question is, out of all of the legacy carriers, and (Historic) airlines in the US, where the heck did u get Air Tahiti Nui from? Its nont even american based, and im pretty sure they only fly to two destinations in America, and i dont think their operation is very big anyway. NOW, i could be very wrong, im not saying i know all of this stuff for a fact, but im jusy saying what i do know.


User currently offlineCorsair2 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

At least most of the LCC's have not been down grading their service to regional jets like some of the mainline carriers!




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User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

I personally don't like LCCs but look at some of your major US airlines. They are really no better than some of the LCC. In fact some of the LCC (eg. B6) are much better is terms of overall service, product offerings and the total package.

And the reason for them being in this state is the LCC's.

LCC's are more than a fungus, they're a detriment to the industry.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Two comments:
This is posted in the wrong forum, should be polls & preferences.
Non LCCs are dinosaurs.



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User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

kcrw writes in, and I quote: >>"Ok, I love LCC's, just not WN."<<

Here is my question:

Just how many times have you flown WN?

Be honest.

A common theme towards a lot of anti-WN vitriol that gets thrown around on some of these message boards is the anti-WN people all have one thing in common - they have never flown WN.

Check out who the WN supporters are on these boards.

We're all adults, mostly past 30 or 40 yrs of age.

We fly a lot.

We often use our money to purchase tickets.

What you will find is that the people who consistently deride WN are those who have seldom, if ever, flown on them....or they work for a legacy (read: high cost) carrier and they don't like seeing the status quo upset by an airline company that deigns to offer fares people can afford.

Before you start in on the argument that such-and-such airline was so many $$ less than WN when I checked....I will ask this question:

Do you really think there would be low fare carriers at all if there had been no WN?



User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

LCCs are good.. not only do they have good fares, they enable people who have lower incomes to travel and experience new places. Surely this is a good thing. Anyone who disagrees needs their head seeing to.

Tom


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Jetblue a cheap, no-class, sub-human airline????

What have you been smoking?

Hot FAs, great legroom, cheap fares, entertainment on board, yummy snacks, wonderful interiors is what I get for very little money to Florida. You pay for a lousy flight on Delta. I'll save my money and splurge on a room at the Delano Hotel.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

I know why airtahitinui's RR is zero.
I think he has been playing too much hockey without a helmet (see his profile).



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User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5593 times:

LCCs are good.. not only do they have good fares, they enable people who have lower incomes to travel and experience new places. Surely this is a good thing. Anyone who disagrees needs their head seeing to.


Flying isn't a right my friend, it's a privilege. As soon as it becomes as such (which is where the LCC's are pushing it) flying will become like Amtrak. Sorry, but sometimes I enjoy First Class on a long flight. The LCC's will ensure that a day comes where that does not exist. Bank on it. LCC’s are less like a fungus and more like a cancer. You can make fungus go away.

[Edited 2004-06-24 18:12:40]

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5575 times:

I didn't say it was a right, I said it enables some people to fly who couldn't afford to do it before. Simple.

25 BoingGoingGone : The problem is that the mindset has developed that flying is a right. This is perpetuated by the $99 LAX-JFK air fare. Customers expect the same fare
26 Delta777 : why would anyone want to get ona 20-30 year old plane, get horrible service by people who dont care, and pay more when you could choose to fly jetBlue
27 Atcboy73 : Wouldnt two or more make it a FUNGEYE ..................(spell check seems to be out of order)
28 Jaysit : "Now you have to ride along with the rest of the garbage." No, you don't. Dish out $ 1000 for a First Class fare on United, and put your money where y
29 BoingGoingGone : Yes you do. And I do dish out the cash on a regular basis, but not for United.
30 UAlonghaul : I do not understand why people like CanadaEH have to use such profanity to argue a point. Actually, CanadaEH did a great job of saying nothing at all
31 BoingGoingGone : I do not understand why people like CanadaEH have to use such profanity to argue a point. Actually, CanadaEH did a great job of saying nothing at all
32 Jaysit : "America needs no more LCC, Song, Ted, Southwest, Jet Blue, Am West, that is enough." As long as entrepreneurs and airline companies believe that the
33 BoingGoingGone : The fact that a majority of the airlines are losing money, yields are down nearly 10% from 2 years ago and the mainline carriers are all looking at wa
34 InnocuousFox : The interesting thing is, I gotta wonder if the same people who bitch about LCCs are all buying Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, etc. After all, Ford, Chevy, Hon
35 BoingGoingGone : Most of your Omaha millionares are on Midwest, sorry man.
36 InnocuousFox : "Most of your Omaha millionares are on Midwest, sorry man." Not any more of late... Midex cut WAY back here. The point being is that Omaha people FLY
37 W_a_s_p_i_e : LCC's in my opinion do some good, but mainly bad. They have RUINED the pilots reputation, made flying an "everyday" thing and at the same time pushed
38 Mandala499 : 37 replies and the original poster have disappeared.... It's a stirrup! mandala499
39 BoingGoingGone : Not any more of late... Midex cut WAY back here. 130,000 seats a year. That's more than enough seats for a small hub airport.
40 ERJ170 : Many of the legacy carriers are finding themselves pushed against the wall without a plausible way out. And many of them have put themselves in that p
41 MD80Nut : What's wrong with offering passengers a more economical way to fly? Clearly, you haven't flown much lately, 'cause most legacy carriers have reduced t
42 Post contains images RT514 : The problem is that the mindset has developed that flying is a right. This is perpetuated by the $99 LAX-JFK air fare. Customers expect the same fare
43 Cessna172RG : I have skipped over all replies to your topic because I know what the will say already... So I will say this... LCC or Legacy Carrier, an airline is a
44 InnocuousFox : IFox: "Not any more of late... Midex cut WAY back here." BGG: "130,000 seats a year. That's more than enough seats for a small hub airport." You sure
45 KcrwFlyer : "Just how many times have you flown WN?" I know about fares, and i understand money management and spending it. Its not like i dislike them, i just do
46 Reltney : Well, Budget carriers are just that. The commoners need them like bus service. If you have flown any like SWA , it is like a bus. JB is worse. Not try
47 Hz747300 : Your post is funny!!! How true it is to see once robust airports like PHX welcoming NW 747's, TWA L1011's, and UA & AA DC10's, now reduced to a steady
48 Jaysit : "You like nice dining and nice cars dont you!" When did you last fly??? Excuse me, but which of these "classic" carriers serve meals in coach? I've fl
49 BoingGoingGone : You sure they are pushing that much through here still? How old are those numbers? Those available seats are based on their current schedule. That's a
50 FL1TPA : Anyone notice how Airtahitinui has NOT responded to ANY of these posts? It seems to me that he posted this topic to see the havoc he would create and
51 TxAgKuwait : >>I think that if WN was such a geniously operated airline, they could find a way to operate in some smaller markets, and still be succesful. Honestly
52 BoingGoingGone : There is no "mindset" that flying is a right any more than it ever has been. Please, come out from under your rock. It's safe now. Anyone in the indus
53 Post contains images Tasha : BoeingGoingGone, " Sorry, but sometimes I enjoy First Class on a long flight. The LCC's will ensure that a day comes where that does not exist. Bank o
54 AirlineFanatic : BoingGoingGone and anyone else that believes that flying is a privilege... This is a CAPITALIST society we live in and therefore, purchasing power ens
55 Aa757first : Excuse me, but which of these "classic" carriers serve meals in coach? Coach Class Complimentary Food Service The following American Airlines cities
56 RT514 : There is no "mindset" that flying is a right any more than it ever has been. Please, come out from under your rock. It's safe now. Anyone in the indus
57 Post contains images Tasha : "Your incessant rants about flying first class, having to now put up with "flying with garbage" and your suggestion that your formerly elitist privile
58 InnocuousFox : Actually, Freshlove1 is the person who has been trolling the WN threads spewing his crap about flying with people who wear velcro-close shoes and need
59 BMAbound : Some people claim that a flight should be an "experience". Well, the other half of the world can't afford that experience. They want to get home to fa
60 Post contains images InnocuousFox : "Airtahitinui, everybody is not as pretty as you." Now THAT was funny! What a way to sum it up!
61 Goingboeing : Your incessant rants about flying first class, having to now put up with "flying with garbage" and your suggestion that your formerly elitist privileg
62 Frjmx328 : Those that claim they spend thousands upon thousand each year flying first class are either A) lying or B) too stupid to realize that you can invest t
63 ATL2CDG : All: The entire anti-LCC argument is absurd. Commercial aviation throughout the world serves one main purpose: transport from point A to point B. Now,
64 Tom in NO : LCC's perform a need, and fill a niche that has existed for many, many years, even before LCC's became commonplace. When my 5-year old and I fly to LA
65 InnocuousFox : The other point to make here is that it is silly (and an incorrect premise) to simply have "legacy" and "LCC". There aren't two piles... there is a wh
66 Post contains images Tasha : InnocuousFox, Quite true about Freshlove1. I do have to agree. So many stereotypes out there - velcro shoes and all Tasha
67 Corsair2 : The LCCs step to the plate to challenge the main-line carriers with newer fleets: AirTran became the launch customer for the 717 and has one of the yo
68 L410Turbolet : I "love" the illogical connection between "boycott LCC" "support America/freedom" Aren't JetBlue, Southwest and others giving jobs to his fellow Ameri
69 NWAFA : With more and more LCC's (aka Cancer) they will keep ones earning ability down. You just love the LCC's...they pay their employees crap, sure these yo
70 ATL2CDG : NWAFA: I can assure you the $20/hr for 70 hours per month to start for FAs at jetBlue is NOT crap.
71 Post contains images Flyguyclt : DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER ! ! ! THE CLAMPETT INVASION HAS BEGUN..... "Excuse me, that trash bag will have to go under the seat please." Safe Flying
72 NWAFA : That dollar price you are talking is about is AFTER how many hours? The new hire salary is crap!
73 Goingboeing : NWAFA...perhaps some of the mechanics at your airline can compare their pay to mechanics at SWA. There's a Lexus in my area that has the personalized
74 ATL2CDG : NWAFA: At jetBlue, FAs are paid $20/hr. if their monthly schedule does not exceed 70 hour that month. However, if they work more than 70 hours (which
75 RCS763av : Welcome to my respected users AirTahitinui. I also hate most LCC (only SONG and TED i like) especially SOUTHWEST!!!!!!!
76 BoingGoingGone : Amazing, just think about it. What does the airline have to lay out to cover $650? A slightly larger seat and a $10 (if $10 meal)? okay with additiona
77 OttoPylit : Why in the hell is EVERYONE chastising AirTahitiNui for stating his opinion? It's clearly HIS OPINION and many people have posts that seem very hostil
78 NWAFA : Otto, Very well said! Sad those days are gone thanks to the LCC's!
79 BoingGoingGone : Geez, just about all of you people are so immature, it reminds me of 7th grade. Look at their profiles and you'll see why that is with most of them. T
80 L410Turbolet : This from a guy in a country who probably thinks SWA is First Class compared to service in his own country. You've got to be kidding. BoingGoingGone,
81 Post contains images Tasha : BoingGoingGone, Sweetie you show me an airline that offers FC service that is worth the price on short haul flights. For that matter, you show me an a
82 InnocuousFox : If "legacy carriers" are so right for people and "LCCs" are so wrong, why is it that almost across the board the "legacy" ones are failing and the LCC
83 BoingGoingGone : The bell is ringing kiddo. Go back to class. Have I been there? Yes. You can keep it.
84 Antares : Bleat all you like about LCCs. The term is going to disappear soon because the only airlines that survive will ALL be low cost, as in more efficient,
85 Post contains images Tasha : BoingGoingGone, Perhaps you should join me in the Economics 101 class as it seems that perhaps you didn't do too well the first time. LCC and Legacy c
86 BoingGoingGone : Sweetie you show me an airline that offers FC service that is worth the price on short haul flights. For that matter, you show me an airline that offe
87 Post contains images InnocuousFox : "Bleat all you like about LCCs. The term is going to disappear soon because the only airlines that survive will ALL be low cost, as in more efficient,
88 LH526 : Airtahitinui, welcome to my respected user list! That's EXACTLY my oppinion! I'm just to proud myself to get myself donw to that substandard level of
89 Frjmx328 : With more and more LCC's (aka Cancer) they will keep ones earning ability down. You just love the LCC's...they pay their employees crap, sure these yo
90 BoingGoingGone : Same payroll, different decade of employment. Helps when everyone is at the bottom of the pay scale.
91 Snnams : "Support America, support freedom, support life as we know it, support the big corporate airlines: AA, Air Tahiti and everybody else that's not a LCC.
92 Jadedmonkeys : And next thing you know you yups want the "garbage" to sit in the back of the bus and use different bathrooms and full segregation. Why should the res
93 Scottb : BoingGoingGone says, "the product ceases to exist due to a lack of demand." Uhhhhhh, that's exactly how the free market is supposed to work You don't
94 OttoPylit : Antares, "The term is going to disappear soon because the only airlines that survive will ALL be low cost, as in more efficient..." I don't think so.
95 Jadedmonkeys : "The orange and red colored fungus on the back of a sleazy motel shower curtain is much more appealing than the newest southwest flying trash bin" So
96 Cincybasefa : "And next thing you know you yups want the "garbage" to sit in the back of the bus and use different bathrooms and full segregation. Why should the re
97 BoingGoingGone : Thank you so much for proving the point in it's entirety. As an FA you have finally proven to the a.net members that we're paying top dollar for LCC c
98 Jadedmonkeys : "Flying used to be part of the fun of a trip, it was something to dress for, something to look forward to, something to be enjoyed. Now it's just a me
99 OPNLguy : >>>And back in the days going to Sears was something to wear your sunday best for but hey stop living in the past and accept what has now become. Abso
100 BoingGoingGone : OPNL... This isn't a Southwest issue. Southwest provides short hop regional service. The rest are just hub raiders.
101 Blackbird1331 : All of the above are correct. I am going with the low-cost bicycle tours.
102 Cincybasefa : BoingGoingGone I know who pays my salary. I'm not badmouthing my company man. I'm saying that just because some people want to sit first class it does
103 Post contains images OPNLguy : >>>Southwest provides short hop regional service. As a consultant, you know know that Southwest has an average trip length of something around 750 mil
104 Post contains images Tasha : CincybaseFA, "TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I'm a Delta connection F/A and I hate passengers who think they are so important. I absolutely love to fly Inter
105 Cincybasefa : CORRECTION I meant to say just because somebody flies Southwest instead of Delta or something. sorry
106 BoingGoingGone : There are people who think it makes them a better person, usually upgraded idiots who take a crap in a cart. It's those of us who endulge on occassion
107 BoingGoingGone : As a consultant, you know know that Southwest has an average trip length of something around 750 miles, not to mention that Southwest flies numerous n
108 FL1TPA : I'm curious, how do you define a Low Cost Carrier? If you're talking about a carrier that does not offer First or Business Class, then AirTran, Americ
109 Post contains images CainanUK :
110 BoingGoingGone : Southwest is really no longer an LCC. They're long haul fares are on par with the industry, often higher. Their short haul flights can and are often m
111 Post contains images Tasha : Your quite right Boeing, not everybody should have to sit in coach, not everybody should have the same income. OMG! Your so missing the point! The poi
112 Post contains images OPNLguy : >>>The most recent number I have (3 weeks old) show 501 miles. I'm no math major, but I think 747 is closer to 750 than is 501... DALLAS, June 3 /PRNe
113 BoingGoingGone : Then someone is giving us bad info: 737-300/700 - Reported Stage Average Stage Lengths: Industry 555 Southwest 501 United 626 US Airways 458 Continent
114 OPNLguy : >>>This kind of "we're going to kill them off" crap pisses me off, at the same time, losing US would help the other network carriers tremendously. I h
115 BoingGoingGone : I hope that you're not under the mistaken impression that these words were uttered by someone from SWA, or that this is SWA's attitude. Three rampers,
116 Jadedmonkeys : Three rampers, two ticket counter agents and two pilots over beer the other night. Pilots had just bid the schedules. Quote "Yeah, were going to kill
117 BoingGoingGone : Definately Jaded. Jeeze.
118 Post contains links and images Elwood64151 : LCC's Are A Fungus...no offense How can you not intend offense by posting such a title? The orange and red colored fungus on the back of a sleazy mote
119 BoingGoingGone : Good riddance, as I would hate to have to stop or change planes six times to get from DDC to SAF (currently, you can do this in two stops via US-Expre
120 Elwood64151 : And in the future you won't be able to do it at all. How do you figure? An LCC currently operates to DDC. SAF is a larger market and will probably get
121 KcrwFlyer : 1 of 2 things are happening. Either we ran AirTahitiNui off, or hes sitting back saying "dance puppets, dance".
122 Post contains images MxCtrlr : You guys all fell for this crap! Has nobody else noticed that the originator of this garbage has never once added anything to his position or even def
123 BoingGoingGone : Is that some kind of joke??? They had a 10% decrease last year at SAF in boardings and 55% the year before. They'll have roughly 15,000 pax if they're
124 Post contains images Tasha : 1 of 2 things are happening. Either we ran AirTahitiNui off, or hes sitting back saying "dance puppets, dance". - BAHAHAHAHAHAHA *evil laughter* Both
125 Frjmx328 : BBG -- fractional ownership. Or shut the hell up. I bet all the REAL highrollers ( which BBG you seem to think you are ) would laugh their asses off a
126 Elwood64151 : Great Lakes is not an LCC - BTW, and there are no majors there. EMB-120's (GLUX) to Liberal and DEN and BE-1900's (MESA/Air Midwest) to MCI. No, no ma
127 Elwood64151 : Hmmmm - here is a premium carrier that is not only besting the competition - but beating the LCC at its own game. HATS OFF TO DELTA. I have a feeling
128 BoingGoingGone : BBG -- fractional ownership. Or shut the hell up. I bet all the REAL highrollers ( which BBG you seem to think you are ) would laugh their asses off a
129 Frjmx328 : CE525, LR45, and maybe even a 601. Seriously, you will be waited on hand and foot. Even have a red carpet rolled out for you! Can't afford it? Guess y
130 BoingGoingGone : They're just too small to run profitably without massively-huge fares. No kidding? It's kinda funny seeing people confirm my statement without doing s
131 RT514 : LCC's have only brought down the status of flying What's this about the "status of flying"?!?! What status? Even more importantly, who has a life so s
132 Elwood64151 : My point is that the majors run these at a loss and the more they lose at a hub, the more of these markets the leave behind. My point is that this is
133 BoingGoingGone : No, again. Network carriers support these markets, generally at a loss. Due to lost revenue on the larger markets through yield reduction to compete w
134 JBLUA320 : Ladies and gentlemen Boys and girls JBLUA320 proudly presents "Why LCCs Are GOOD Play!" The curtain opens with a man in a suit drinking wine in the fi
135 Goingboeing : Quick poll...of those who long for the "good old days" when people dressed up to fly...what's the dress code where you work? For the past 10 years for
136 Elwood64151 : BGG: Even if you are correct and those markets were subsidized by higher fares on larger markets, is it right that someone from Chicago should pay mor
137 OttoPylit : FL1TPA, "If it's "full service" in coach you're after, all the major carriers I've flown with recently (Delta, United, Continental) only give you a sn
138 Post contains images Tasha : GoingBoeing, As for me, I normally wear a suit actually; sometimes a dress. I feel that you should dress at a polite level. PJs and spandex have their
139 BoingGoingGone : What's with the Velcro????
140 Schweizair : By the way, I HATE LCCs! A world with LCCs is not worth living in. The sweet color of blood running from my wrists is far more enjoyable than any ride
141 Airtran737 : I'm not even going to say what I really feel, because I've gotten enough letters from the administrator over things that I have said. I will say this,
142 Goingboeing : Otto...part of the problem is the other airlines are "niche chasing", you know, "we're your leather seat, more legroom, inflight movie, full meal serv
143 NIKV69 : You people are so jealous of WN and B6. No matter how you look at it, the middle class and lower class are shopping fares, if they can get a flight to
144 Garnetpalmetto : Alright, fine. LCCs are a fungus. I'll tell you what legacy carriers are then - leeches. Big, slimy ones that suck the money right out of the wallets
145 Frntman : It sounds like everyone has fallen for the originator's stirring o' the pot so with all due respect..... Mommy make it stop please!
146 Azul320 : Stop comparing B6 and WN. WN is an LCC and hence its category, looks cheap. 400 Brown planes that resemble a parking lot full of Toyota Carollas, Agen
147 Jetranger2000 : Took me a minute to figure this out, I think the thread poster is afraid that the air travel is becoming Greyhound bus lines...
148 NonRevKing : Hot FAs, great legroom, cheap fares, entertainment on board, yummy snacks, wonderful interiors is what I get for very little money to Florida. You pay
149 Post contains images 7E72004 : What happened with the tech companies in the late 90s/ 2000, is going to happen with the LCCs in my opinion. The market is going to become oversaturat
150 Garnetpalmetto : What happened with the tech companies in the late 90s/ 2000, is going to happen with the LCCs in my opinion. I don't believe it was oversaturation tha
151 Goingboeing : Stop comparing B6 and WN. WN is an LCC and hence its category, looks cheap. 400 Brown planes that resemble a parking lot full of Toyota Carollas, Agen
152 Logos : Substance of what Airtahitinui says aside, I love this thread. I'd rather see something humorously stated like this than the typical "when will Northw
153 Corsair2 : The only bad thing about LCCs is that they only fly to mass market destinations. They can't get you to the more interesting places like Alaska, Montan
154 NonRevKing : Stop comparing B6 and WN. WN is an LCC and hence its category, looks cheap. 400 Brown planes that resemble a parking lot full of Toyota Carollas, Agen
155 Alphascan : Corsair: Frontier flies to Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming.
156 FL1TPA : OttoPylit, Did you even read the last sentence in my post? Economics, pure and simple. If GM were still making 3-ton Cadillac Eldorado's with miles of
157 BoingGoingGone : Air travel is public transportation!!! That's where your entire misconception of air travel comes from and why so many people think it's a right, not
158 Cumulonimbus : I Live in Baltimore about 10 minutes from BWI. I do not like WN as a passenger but I DO like them as a company. They give many people jobs in baltimo
159 InnocuousFox : Incidentally, I truly like the ad campaigns that spoke of how much you could do on your vactation/visit/business trip with the money you saved on the
160 Elwood64151 : America West and Alaska have implented a "value pricing" structure. They aren't raping their high yield passengers. They are seeing small profits or d
161 Elwood64151 : BGG: I think you're reading far too much into what he's saying... No, it's not public transit, but the skies don't "belong" to anyone, therefore makin
162 Garnetpalmetto : ), but the LCC's are damn sure to make that a reality by pushing the price point to it's limit making the air transportation business so unprofitable
163 BoingGoingGone : I think you're reading far too much into what he's saying... Not really, in reading his other posts on this and other issues, he's under the impressio
164 Corsair2 : Alphascan - Frontier makes those flights to Wyoming and Montana with the assistance of Horizon Air. No LCCs fly those routes on their own equipment.
165 InnocuousFox : At what point did we say that LCCs need to fly everywhere to be appreciated as a "real airline"? US Air(friggin-ways) doesn't fly to Omaha - a HUGE ai
166 Azul320 : nonrevking Who said anything about what passengers are wearing? Maybe reread the post
167 Corsair2 : US Airways is in the "no-mans" land of airlines. Not good enough to be an established major airline, but not quite so base as to be an LCC.
168 Elwood64151 : If the Governemnt does it then perhaps they would at least set up a hub a spoke network with strategically placed mega hubs so you could go anywhere
169 InnocuousFox : Corsair2: "No LCCs fly those routes on their own equipment." Elwood64151: "Few majors operate their own equipment, but rather contract out to regional
170 NYCTZ : I love it when someone follows or precedes a statement with "no offense" when all it does is offend the group of which "no offense" was intended. Just
171 InnocuousFox : "I love it when someone follows or precedes a statement with "no offense" when all it does is offend the group of which "no offense" was intended. Jus
172 Corsair2 : NW and/ or DL can get you into Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming on their own equipment without using others equipment. LCCs must depend on other for help
173 Goingboeing : NW and/ or DL can get you into Alaska, Montana, and Wyoming on their own equipment without using others equipment. Actually, if you need to go to Alas
174 InnocuousFox : "LCCs must depend on other for help since they only do mass market destinations!" That is only partially correct. Since "mass market" destinations, by
175 Post contains images Stirling : Southwest Airlines has the enviable position of being THE safest airline in the United States. It ranks at, or near the top in customer service satisf
176 NonRevKing : You think of upper-middle class college professors as "low class?" My, you live in a strange world. My dad earns enough money to buy a new house and t
177 Elwood64151 : 50 of them have more than 1,000,000 people Actually, it's slightly more. There are 49 in the US, and SLC is the #50 metro (Statistical Abstract 2003)
178 Post contains images Garnetpalmetto : Actually, I like that leech analogy someone mentioned Glad you liked it, Elwood.
179 Swacle : Airtahitinui -- Did a successful LCC put your daddy out of a job, too, just like Son of a Bi...i mean Captain? Sucks to be you...BTW..if a world with
180 737doctor : I just wanted to thank everyone for such a hilarious thread. What an entertaining way to spend my lunch break. Well, back to work. That #4 captain's w
181 L.1011 : Airtahitinui, no offense, but you are a fungus.
182 Modesto2 : This thread is cheap entertainment! Where do you people come from??? They still make people like you??? On a more serious note, wake up and smell the
183 Reltney : Hey Boeing Going Gone guy. Not being sarcastic, but you missed the point of the message I left. People still like nice things like nice cars/fine dini
184 Ryanair!!! : Just read my latest trip report and see if they still feel like fungus to you...
185 Post contains images Nealcg : Good Lord, Can we let this thread die and stop encouraging this silliness. Oh crap too late I've now contributed to it...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Please refer
186 Jumpseat70 : Good Job...AIRTAHITINUI...we are all awake now. I know you are just kidding...you're an ice hockey fan from Brooklyn (for God's Sake)...you were born
187 Post contains images Vatveng : They still make people like you??? My favorite comment of this entire thread! I just got back from a trip on AirTran. (trip report coming soon to a tr
188 InnocuousFox : "I actually like flying US Airways and will not hesitate to fly them..." You had better hurry!
189 Jeffrey1970 : Airtahitinui, If you don't like LCC's don't fly them. However as someone who is not 500 pounds and has more then one tooth, I sure do appreciate there
190 RT514 : Not really, in reading his other posts on this and other issues, he's under the impression its public transportation, like a bus. It's that thought th
191 Pe@rson : In my opinion, low-cost carriers have revoluntionised air travel: they have enabled people who were previously unable to fly, primarily because of hav
192 Ny-jfk-lga : I see a lot of people admit that they don't like LCC's now, why so? These are airlines, just like people are people no matter what. Lets see the diffe
193 NIKV69 : 737doctor, It's a shame there are people out there that have to bash WN. Jealousy is a horrible thing. LCC have changed the face of air travel and you
194 Flyinround731 : I recently flew out to Baltimore, and I checked WN and CO's fares before I flew out, and they were EXACTLY the same. But, we opted for WN since IAH (C
195 BoingGoingGone : Air travel is public transportation. Like a bus, a taxi, or a train, it works on the premise that someone buys a ticket or pays a fare, and therefore
196 TxAgKuwait : Flyinround: You are right, most of the time, your so called legacy carriers and LCCs will have the same fare. However, one should pause and consider w
197 Aaron747 : Some people here have a lot to learn about economics. Pathetic.
198 Post contains links RT514 : Public Transportation. Function: noun Definition: any form of transportation that charges "set fares", "run fixed routes", and "fixed schedules" and a
199 BoingGoingGone : According to the definition you provide, taxis would not be considered public transport. Care to explain that one? Actually, they are Public. Their fa
200 RT514 : BGG, Again, semantics are not the central issue in my posts, or the thread at hand and are therefore not worthy of further debate.
201 Post contains links Elwood64151 : Tsk, Tsk! Where did that definition come from??? Public transportation has nothing to do with capital expenditures. According to the definition you pr
202 BoingGoingGone : Government is Best which governs Least. No doubt, but the problem is yield reduction outpacing costs. Yield cannot continue to fall. Aircraft aren't g
203 RT514 : RT514: According to the definition you provide, taxis would not be considered public transport. Care to explain that one? BGG: Actually, they are Publ
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