IslipWN From , joined today!, posts, RR: Posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
Hello everybody. I just came back from PBI on B6 into JFK. Nice flight. I always wonder when the old TWA terminal is going to be of use. I know that B6 store's planes there overnight. Is there any future plans with this terminal.
I also heard that it's a landmark or something like that, so they cant do anything with the terminal. Also, what airline served jetBlue's current terminal (i think terminal 6)?
Thanks so much
Joe
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AirlineFanatic From United States, joined Mar 2004, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4058 times:
Term 6 was used by various airlines over its life span. When B6 arrived, UA and HP were there.
Expect an announcement shortly regarding B6's plans on rebuilding Term 5 as the mainstay of their JFK ops incorporating the historic aspect of the building.
Rjpieces From United States, joined Nov 2003, 6851 posts, RR: 45 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3969 times:
Terminal 6 (the JetBlue terminal) was originally National Airlines. TWA then moved in and had domestic flights from there. After they consolidated operations into Terminal 5, United/America West used it. Now it is just JetBlue.
As for T5, the building is a landmark and can't be knocked down. JetBlue/Port Authority plans to build a terminal around T5, incorporating the famous design into the building.
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WidgetBoi From United States, joined Mar 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 19 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3949 times:
I'm pretty sure, though not completely sure, that Terminal 6 was built for the original National, then it went to TWA for their domestic operations and then to jetBlue.
Spike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3245 times:
I saw the TWA terminal at JFK last night. Who is paying for the TWA sign to be lit up on the roof?
Also, JFK has no long-haul US airline's aircraft parked there. It looks like a foreign only terminal(s).
JFK also has to be the most dull airport in the world. And the only place I've ever had my socks ex-rayed! What where they looking for in a sock??
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Mir From United States, joined Jan 2004, 9804 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
BA was always at Terminal 7, I belive. I don't think Terminal 6 has a customs facility. Right now, Jetblue parks their planes that aren't doing anything next to Terminal 5, but there are no gates for them to pull up to.
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Hz747300 From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Mar 2004, 1391 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2668 times:
JFK is the best airport in the world!!! 9 Terminals rock! Only LHR is better in my opinion in terms the different aircraft available.
Currently, they are tying to upgrade terminal five to be able to handle modern traffic levels. In the meantime, it is a place where crews can go to receive hookers and drugs during long layovers.
BUFJets From United States, joined Jan 2001, 226 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2623 times:
I was just at JetBlue's terminal 6 last week. The rotunda I was in was very crowded as 3 flights were departing within a short time of each other. I didn't really enjoy being there. Also, the bathrooms in the Rotunda are downstairs. I can see why they want to acquire the old TWA terminal.
I was never in TWA Terminal 5. Is that long concrete tube considered historic? I hope they can tear that down. It didn't appear to have any windows, which is a big negative for those of us who like to look out and see the aircraft. I have no problem with keeping the Central Terminal area, but I would think the piers should be rebuilt.
On a side note- I paid the most ever for a beer in Terminal 6. It was a 22 oz draft for $9.00
Modesto2 From United States, joined Jul 2000, 2249 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2576 times:
JetBlue is making plans to build around the TWA terminal. B6 will move into T5, while keeping the historic architecture. T6 doesn't have customs. Therefore, Dominican flights arrive at the international T4 right now and then taxied to T6.
WGW2707 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 32 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2509 times:
OK, to review here:
Eero Saarinen-designed Terminal 5 is a designated landmark and was so even before the TWA-AA merger. T5 therefore has to be preserved. What will be preserved though is the question. For sure, the main terminal building will be, and in all probability one or both of the aerial walkways will be as well, however in all probability both of the concourses will be demolished.
Terminal 6 was designed by noted architect I.M. Pei for National Airlines and was originally known as The National Airlines Sundome (tying in with their Sunking logo symbolizing them as an airline you fly to Florida-the cornerstone of their marketing approach in the 1970s). Later, TWA's domestic flights used Terminal 6.
Terminal 7 was built for British Airways, who operated something close to a hub at JFK at the end of the 1950s, with flights not only to Britain, but to the Carribean and other destinations as well. United moved in from their former home of T8 in the 1980s at the start of their abortive codeshare with BA, and several BA affiliates and oneworld partners use the terminal now as well. Happily enough BA's current US partner, American, is now right next door at T8-T9...
Terminal 5 will eventually be rebuilt with a massive new semi-circular structure that will replace the concoures of T5 and apparently, T6 in its entirety, which will be demolished (unfortunately in my opinion). The new T5-T6 plan has been scaled back since 9/11 and it's unclear when this will be constructed, however, when it is built I imagine that jetBlue will be the primary tenant, and the new terminal will facilitate a massive increase in their operations from JFK.
Much later this year, Terminal 5 is slated to be used as an art exposition starting in October. In fact, someone posted a thread on this just before the site went down complete with a link to the website, but darn it if the Forum Search engine isn't working! Must be the power audit...anyway, look through the recent posts to find that thread regarding the exposition at T5 this fall...it was pretty exciting, and if I'm in NYC I might attend it.
STT757 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 9494 posts, RR: 35 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2398 times:
Here's a clipping I have of the original plan for the new T5, you can see where T5 is, where it's concourses used to be and where T6 used to be.
This is the original plan from '99/'00 which would have included Jetblue, UAL, TWA and possibly HP. The new Terminal will be only for Jetblue, and have 23 gates.
Jfklganyc From United States, joined Jan 2004, 1030 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2381 times:
The TWA terminal is a city landmark. The Port Authority of NY and NJ is a bistate agency. JFK is their land.
Here's what most people don't know: the TWA terminal is not protected from demolition. It also does not have to go through a landmark comission to approve any changes. The Port Authority and JetBlue are going through the whole process because they recognize the integrity and importance of the structure. They also realize the public outcry if they ever touched the terminal.
All of the above plans save the terminal, but none have been approved by the FAA as of yet. They are sure dragging their feet with it. That means that B6 may soon be in the position of running out of gate space at JFK.
This brings to mind an interesting question: will B6 move into the old TWA gate areas while something new is being built? The process will take years and there are dozens of new aircraft coming.
STT757 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 9494 posts, RR: 35 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2354 times:
I think B6 "may" use gate space else where at JFK, or even stairs and buses to/from T6 to a remote stand.
I think most likely though if space gets tight at JFK they will focus growth elsewhere during the interim, they are already launching flights from LGA to FLL.
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SHUPirate1 From United States, joined Sep 2003, 3472 posts, RR: 24 Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2086 times:
Levg79-jetBlue announced today 7 dailies from LGA to FLL, in addition to schedule upgrades from BOS
BTW, what in the wide, wide, world of airplanes is the PANYNJ thinking by reducing the number of gates in the new jetBlue terminal...if jetBlue is only building it with 23 gates, they absolutely will NEED to have the concourses be expandable, or have many of them be twin-gates (able to service two separate planes at once), because at the rate they are growing, and will continue to grow (if they drop every single one of their remaining option, they will STILL have 282 planes, 182 A-320's and 100 E-190's) and you can bet that, unless they re-focus away from their current JFK home, they will need more space than they have right now, and likely quite a few widebody gates as well (not that we'll likely see an A-380 in jetBlue colors, but I could see the A-330-200 going to Europe...
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Rjpieces From United States, joined Nov 2003, 6851 posts, RR: 45 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2034 times:
JFK also has to be the most dull airport in the world.
Are you joking? Maybe you were there at an offhour, but JFK is the premier international airport in the United States.
Terminal 7 was built for British Airways, who operated something close to a hub at JFK at the end of the 1950s, with flights not only to Britain, but to the Carribean and other destinations as well. U
That is very interesting. Does anybody know what other destinations they flew to?
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Must be the power audit...anyway, look through the recent posts to find that thread regarding the exposition at T5 this fall...it was pretty exciting, and if I'm in NYC I might attend it.
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