R3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3729 times:
Just wondering how it's possible for an aging Boeing 707 (YA-GAF) to be parked at EBOS airport for 7 years now without being sold or scrapped while much newer aircraft such B 762, A300, etc. are meeting their final fate. Is somebody paying the parking fees?
I would speculate that the B707 is already property of the Ostend Airport authorities, who may want to keep the aircraft intact for whatever reason (fire training, aviation college...).
Would be nice if this aircraft could be repainted and preserved for future generations to watch and enjoy.
R3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3574 times:
I sincerely hope it will be preserved rather than scrapped or used for fire practise. Just did some reading and it's an aircaft with an intersting history. It was owned by Balkh Airlines of Afghanistan. The owners were Christopher Barrett-Jolley from the UK who is now in jail for smuggling drugs (see aircraft 3C-GIG) and Rashid Dostum. The latter is a warlord from Northern Afghanistan that helped fight on just about any side (mostly his own) but most recently assisted the US against in the fight against the taliban.
Ebos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3561 times:
Apperentely the aircraft was also used in former Yugoslavia where she received the military registration 73601. She was used to evacuate Serbian refuges from Sarajevo to Belgrade.
YA-GAF will be scrapped next monday.
Sven
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WERNAIR From Austria, joined Aug 2003, 164 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
Hy all..
Well, that's too bad... I came to OST some months ago to see the Air Memphis SU-AVZ but it crashed 2 days before my arrival... Finally I could see a 707 for real (YA-GAF) but this seems to be over now. Hopefully at least the stored DC-8's at OST will survive...
Ebos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 22 hours ago) and read 3045 times:
Nobody is paying the parking fees. That's the reason the airport authorities sell the 707. Some museums were interested but apparently they don't pay enough. It took so long because there were some paperwork and legal problems.
I guess the 9G-BAN DC-8, which is parked on the apron for 3 years now, will have the same fate.
Sven
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WERNAIR From Austria, joined Aug 2003, 164 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 3027 times:
@Sven: do you have any idea why they didn't pay enough!?
I think giving the 707 for free to a museum would be cheaper then calling the scrapman!? Seems to be more an authority problem then a money problem.
I would buy it if I had the money! And I would make a restaurant in it next to the apron in OST
There were juridical procedures against 5 companies: ALG Inc. (USA), Uganda Airlines Corp. (Uganda), Skyjet Management Ltd. (UK), Airwings Services Ltd. (UK) and Ringham Ltd. (Ireland) but no one was able to pay the parking fee of approx. 785.000 euro so the Flemish community decided to sell the 707. Apparently the scrapman payed most.
Sven
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Duke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1135 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
oh nooooo!!!!!!!! that 707 was like a monument in Ostend!
any other 707s in airline livery intact anywhere else?
-Well, there are some very well preserved 707s in museums, including some that have interesting and significant liveries. This includes:
-VC-137s (707-153 and -353s) that have been used as Air Force 1 (the first - President Eisenhower's and President Kennedy's) preserved at Seattle and some military museum
-707-328 of Air France preserved in Air France livery at Le Bourget
These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one.
R3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2379 times:
Horrible to see the scrapped YA-GAF. It feels the same as having to watch an old tree being cut down to me. There is one more Boeing 707 in Europe with a dubious past (TL-ADJ), owned by African Lines, once controlled by Ronnie Rosignol, a person perhaps known to Belgians for his arms dealings with Victor Bout. The Boeing is now stored at Reims, impounded by the French. She's likely going the same route which is sad since it flew not so long ago.
For anybody interested in some of these Ostend stories, have a look at: http://users.skynet.be/cleanostend/clos_en.htm
ClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 671 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
R3500vdp,
thanks a lot for this link. I had previously read some stories about the Bout-Mob, but this is a very detailed listing of all the dirty shit this low-life has done so far.
I strongly encourage everybody to read this, especially those who think it is mainly fish and vegetables what these airlines carry.
Sorry if I hijack the thread, but has anybody information about Al-Dawood Airlines? A short while ago I read they were doing AMC flights for the US forces, which I couldn't quite believe. Does anybody who is behind that airline?
[Edited 2004-07-03 17:58:16]
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Miamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2274 times:
These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one
thanks for all the info. but from a photographers point of view, at least me personally, I have no interest in photographing a 707 out of the airport in a museum, however well preserved it might be. Same thing about the Hamburg airport 707, great but that's no airline either
The 707 at Reims, assumming it hasn't been chopped up, that would be interesting to see if its still shootable. There used to be some at Manston a few years ago, but those I'm sure have been scrapped by now.