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Who Pays The Bill For The B707 At Ostend  
User currently offlineR3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

Just wondering how it's possible for an aging Boeing 707 (YA-GAF) to be parked at EBOS airport for 7 years now without being sold or scrapped while much newer aircraft such B 762, A300, etc. are meeting their final fate. Is somebody paying the parking fees?

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User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4685 times:

> Just wondering how it's possible for an aging Boeing 707 (YA-GAF) to be parked at EBOS for 7 years

FYI, we're talking about this fellow.

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> Is somebody paying the parking fees?

I would highly doubt that.

I would speculate that the B707 is already property of the Ostend Airport authorities, who may want to keep the aircraft intact for whatever reason (fire training, aviation college...).

Would be nice if this aircraft could be repainted and preserved for future generations to watch and enjoy.



User currently offlineR3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 4620 times:


I sincerely hope it will be preserved rather than scrapped or used for fire practise. Just did some reading and it's an aircaft with an intersting history. It was owned by Balkh Airlines of Afghanistan. The owners were Christopher Barrett-Jolley from the UK who is now in jail for smuggling drugs (see aircraft 3C-GIG) and Rashid Dostum. The latter is a warlord from Northern Afghanistan that helped fight on just about any side (mostly his own) but most recently assisted the US against in the fight against the taliban.


User currently offlineEbos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day ago) and read 4607 times:

Apperentely the aircraft was also used in former Yugoslavia where she received the military registration 73601. She was used to evacuate Serbian refuges from Sarajevo to Belgrade.

YA-GAF will be scrapped next monday.

Sven



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User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4558 times:


> YA-GAF will be scrapped next monday

Oh no ...  Sad

What has happened recently such that -after standing there reportedly for 7 long years- this aircraft is suddenly sentenced to be scrapped?



User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4548 times:

Maybe 3500RVDP's post brought the folks at Ostend on an idea  Laugh out loud... no I read it as well last week it was to be scrapped unfortunately.  Crying  Pissed


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineR3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 21 hours ago) and read 4508 times:


That's terrible news. If anybody is standing by with a camera next Monday, it would be good to capture the last moments.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 12 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

Yes, I found video footage of the scrapping of the Caravelles at Toulouse in March, they even put syruppy sad violin music under it.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineEstablished02 From Belgium, joined Jan 2002, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

It took 2 years for OST to get rid of the DART IL76.
It will have taken 7 years for OST to bury the Uganda B707.


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The DART IL76 overran the runway at OST on 18/04/01.


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The aircraft was damaged beyond repair and stored at OST for 2 years


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The Ilyushin was finally broken up in June 2003


User currently offlineRoberta From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Off Topic: Didnt Virgin Express fly there once?

User currently offlineWERNAIR From Austria, joined Aug 2003, 164 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months ago) and read 4184 times:

Hy all..

Well, that's too bad... I came to OST some months ago to see the Air Memphis SU-AVZ but it crashed 2 days before my arrival... Finally I could see a 707 for real (YA-GAF) but this seems to be over now. Hopefully at least the stored DC-8's at OST will survive...


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Werner



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User currently offlineEbos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Nobody is paying the parking fees. That's the reason the airport authorities sell the 707. Some museums were interested but apparently they don't pay enough. It took so long because there were some paperwork and legal problems.
I guess the 9G-BAN DC-8, which is parked on the apron for 3 years now, will have the same fate.

Sven



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User currently offlineWERNAIR From Austria, joined Aug 2003, 164 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

@Sven: do you have any idea why they didn't pay enough!?
I think giving the 707 for free to a museum would be cheaper then calling the scrapman!? Seems to be more an authority problem then a money problem.

I would buy it if I had the money! And I would make a restaurant in it next to the apron in OST  Smile

Cheers, Werner



Wernair Photography
User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Any news then? Was the plane scrapped yesterday?

User currently offlineEbos From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

YA-GAF is almost completely scrapped.

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There were juridical procedures against 5 companies: ALG Inc. (USA), Uganda Airlines Corp. (Uganda), Skyjet Management Ltd. (UK), Airwings Services Ltd. (UK) and Ringham Ltd. (Ireland) but no one was able to pay the parking fee of approx. 785.000 euro so the Flemish community decided to sell the 707. Apparently the scrapman payed most.

Sven



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User currently offlineLapper From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 1568 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3654 times:

Even though she's being scrapped, she still seems to have a smile on her face!  Sad

User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

oh nooooo!!!!!!!! that 707 was like a monument in Ostend!

any other 707s in airline livery intact anywhere else?


User currently offlineDuke From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 1155 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3477 times:

oh nooooo!!!!!!!! that 707 was like a monument in Ostend!

any other 707s in airline livery intact anywhere else?

-Well, there are some very well preserved 707s in museums, including some that have interesting and significant liveries. This includes:

-VC-137s (707-153 and -353s) that have been used as Air Force 1 (the first - President Eisenhower's and President Kennedy's) preserved at Seattle and some military museum

-707-328 of Air France preserved in Air France livery at Le Bourget

These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one.

And thanks for the picture. Just what we needed.


User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

I have the luxury to say, that my hometown airpotrt has one B707. And I can see it everyday, if I would like to... Big grin


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Ebos, I think the Belgian authorities didn´t want it re-sold to the former owners, so they choose to scrap it.

User currently offlineR3500vdp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

Horrible to see the scrapped YA-GAF. It feels the same as having to watch an old tree being cut down to me. There is one more Boeing 707 in Europe with a dubious past (TL-ADJ), owned by African Lines, once controlled by Ronnie Rosignol, a person perhaps known to Belgians for his arms dealings with Victor Bout. The Boeing is now stored at Reims, impounded by the French. She's likely going the same route which is sad since it flew not so long ago.
For anybody interested in some of these Ostend stories, have a look at:
http://users.skynet.be/cleanostend/clos_en.htm


User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

R3500vdp,

thanks a lot for this link. I had previously read some stories about the Bout-Mob, but this is a very detailed listing of all the dirty shit this low-life has done so far.
I strongly encourage everybody to read this, especially those who think it is mainly fish and vegetables what these airlines carry.
Sorry if I hijack the thread, but has anybody information about Al-Dawood Airlines? A short while ago I read they were doing AMC flights for the US forces, which I couldn't quite believe. Does anybody who is behind that airline?

[Edited 2004-07-03 17:58:16]


"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineMiamix707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

These planes are just two examples I can think off the top of my head. And unlike the Ugandan one, they're PRESERVED. Quite a few are, though not all are in original liveries like this one

thanks for all the info. but from a photographers point of view, at least me personally, I have no interest in photographing a 707 out of the airport in a museum, however well preserved it might be. Same thing about the Hamburg airport 707, great but that's no airline either  Sad

The 707 at Reims, assumming it hasn't been chopped up, that would be interesting to see if its still shootable. There used to be some at Manston a few years ago, but those I'm sure have been scrapped by now.



User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1822 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3209 times:

R3500vdp, thanks a lot for that link! Very interesting


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