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ATC Question:MIA - GRU  
User currently offlineDFWJIM From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Hello everyone,

Recently I flew to Brazil on AA flight 929, Miami to Sao Paulo. The flight flew over Cuba, the Caribbean Sea, Venezuela and then into Brazil. Once my flight left U.S. airspace would it be taken over by Cuban ATC or is there a regional ATC center for the entire Caribbean area? With all of the small island countries in the area it would seem be more efficient to have one centralized ATC system.

By the way flying over Cuba was pretty cool! I couldn't see Havana since we flew over the east side of the island but it was still a treat.

DFWJIM

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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

I am not sure, but I do know that US flights are allowed to fly over Cuba. I would guess that there is some kind of regional center for the Caribbean (maybe based in MIA, who knows). After all, carriers from all other countries can fly to Cuba, so it would make sense.


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User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

I think MIAMI center takes alot of the Carribean until San Juan. I think there is a San Juan Center. Not sure but I would think there is a Havana or Kingston Center. Dont really think the FAA would control Cuban Airspace.


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User currently offlinePeteinmiami From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

There are three air corridors for international flight crossing the Cuban territory, take in consideration that Cuba at its widest part is only 99 km about 60 miles wide so it is a quick crossing. All the three corridor go on North-South direction, the first one is just south of Florida Varadero- Giron, the second one is on the central part of the island the Moron Corridor and the third one, the one DFWJIM crossed by is located on the eastern part of the island and yes American carriers are allowed to cross the country following those routes and HAVANA Center is the one controlling the traffic over Cuba.

User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

Yes flights are allowed to cross Cuba.

and for kicks, American Eagle flies to Cuba from Miami to various cities in the Island such as Havana, Holguin and Santiago. They use ATR72's on these routes.



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User currently offlineGnomon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

I've flown (commercially) through the Varadero corridor many times...

I believe that's the one that spits you out over Cayo Largo del Sur, then it's direct ATUVI to Grand Cayman. Oh, man, what a flight...


User currently offlineS.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

DFWJIM,

After leaving US airspace, first ATC would be Havana Centre, then Kingston Centre...Barranquilha Centre...Maiquetia Centre...Amazonica Centre and finally Brasilia Centre. The last two are already inside Brazil.

Alternatively, Bogota Centre might also be contacted, if route enters its FIR

Rgds

RS





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User currently offlineATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 772 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

The standard rule is that CIVILIAN flights only are allowed to overfly Cuba, unless the military aircraft is a medivac of some kind. And of course Cuba generates revenue by charging these airlines for permitting them to overfly.


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