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User currently offlineFJWH From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 970 posts, RR: 3
Posted (11 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

How are the Dutch airliners doing? Profits, loses, pax, cargo and what do they and what can we, expect from the future?

How many do we actually have?
KL (Is KL still a Dutch airline?) MP, Dutchbird, HV, HollandExel. Are there any more?


FlightS in the next 3 months: MSP, PHX, MEM, NCE, TFS, BCN. All round trips from AMS
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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

KL is now a French company, as is their daugher HV.
Both posted good profit figures for the last quarter and year.

MP is also in the black, don't know how much.

HollandExel is too young, hasn't posted anything yet. Mother company Exel avitation (owner of BonairExel and KLM Exel) is doing well AFAIK.

Dutchbird is also in the black.

I wish I were flying
User currently offlineBoeing777/747 From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

I think the HV brand (Transavia Airlines and Basiq Air) will once be dropped off the market. Why would AF and KL keep those brands alive? What is the added value? HV is already flying "blue" cabin crew and KL-flightnumbers most of the time nowadays... and this trend sets through.

User currently offlineVain~ From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I don't know who told you that, but HV has it's own "green" cabin crew, doesn't fly with KL flightnumbers an doesn't codeshare with KL/NW (since aprox. two years)

User currently offlineBigfoot From Italy, joined Dec 2003, 65 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Transavia is a company with significant tradition and experience. It would be a real shame if it disappeared from the market because of the AF/KL deal.
Neverheless, for the moment, HV is retaining complete autonomy in respect to KL.


Madness takes its toll, please have exact change
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

The only times HV flies KLM flight numbers and uniforms is when they wetlease an aircraftt to KLM temporarilly.
This happens when KLM needs an aircraft and HV has to spare (so mainly outside the charter season).

During summer holiday season sometimes KLM aircraft fly for HV if and when HV needs the capacity.
For several years a KLM 737 flew with titles "operated for Transavia" next to the forward door.

I wish I were flying
User currently offlineTripple7 From Netherlands, joined Aug 1999, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

There is a Dutch airline that is missing in this topic and that is V-bird. I don't know how they are doing, but I am really curious to know. I know they are increasing the amount of destinations and are adding 2 leased F-100s to their fleet of A320s. I don't know how they are doing financially. Someone with some info on V-bird?

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Vbird is too new, hasn't posted any results yet.

I've heard that loads are good.

I wish I were flying
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