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Am And The 777  
User currently offlineAr385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6596 posts, RR: 35
Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2939 times:
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I read yesterday in AM´s magazine that AM plans to introduce the 777 soon, along with two 767´s in November. This, on the letter from Ricardo Flores at the beginning of the magazine. I hope this becomes true, but at least it´s not a rumor anymore. Any comments?

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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

This one is swiftly approaching "NW DC9 Replacement" status...

...but nonetheless, will be very interesting if they do indeed [finally] come through.


User currently offlineAA777DFW From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

The 777 will look very smashing in AM uniform




Pablo Rojas


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Perhaps "smashing" isn't exactly the most expedient adjective  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Well... I don't mean to be harsh but this issue has been discussed to death in still-active threads. AFAIK it will be well into 2005 when AM will receive the first (of two if my memory serves me right).

Kuddos for AM !
RM  Smile



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User currently offlineJoseMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2759 times:

Well, of all the rumors floating around (MX and AM merging, MX flying to Asia and JFK with their their spanking new 340's, 6A opening up MTY-BCN, Ricardo Montaner being a good singer, me getting married, etc.) this is certainly the one closest to becoming true. Big grin

I can't wait to see a 777 in AM livery.

[Edited 2004-06-27 04:20:03]

User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Ricardo Montaner being a good singer
Want me to start talking about Estelita Nuñez, Mario Pintor, Dulce and Crystal?

I also can't wait to see an AM T7.

RM  Smile
And BTW -Just for the records-, he IS a good singer.



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User currently offlinePecevanne From Mexico, joined Jun 2004, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Is not a rumor. The board will launch the ok status very soon. Mr Flores is in the right way.

User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Pecevanne: Welcome to the forums !
Great having more colleagues around... I can't wait to listen the interesting story described in your profile.

RM  Smile





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User currently offlineMIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

The AM 777 will look similiar to the AA 777 w/ the "Mirror Like" fuselage.
Very nice indeed...

But how is AM acquiring 777's? used or new from factory? I am yet to hear Boeing mention of any new orders from AM for 777's given that, any deliveries to AM for that matter (except 73NG'S of course!)



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User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2465 times:


Are they planning on leasing some from AF or maybe taking some of DL's that have been deferred...??
I also agree they are in due time for an a/c with the 777's caliber.
Regards



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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

--- I am yet to hear Boeing mention of any new orders from AM for 777's given that, any deliveries to AM for that matter (except 73NG'S of course!) ---

It was not until few months before the delivery of the first 73NG that both Boeing and AM made an official statement. They like playing a discrete game.

RM  Smile



There are no stupid questions... just stupid people!
User currently offlinePecevanne From Mexico, joined Jun 2004, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

You will hear soon about the decision, correct myself, the go ahead for the 777 for AM. It´s just a matter of few weeks.
if no Mexican surprise AM will have those planes next year.


User currently offlineHenpol747 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 588 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Great news really. Are there any plans of including more european cities with the T7?


Vive la France! ¡Viva México!
User currently offlineTR763 From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 779 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

AM could introduce their 777 in the GRU route, just as RG did when the latest two 777 started operations for the airline!!

Great news !!!

All the best
TR763 Big grin



Transbrasil
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2232 times:

TR763, it would be awesome to see an AM 772ER doing MEX-GRU but unfortunately that is still many, many years away. AM will likely receive only two 772ER's at first and they will both be used in the flights to MAD and CDG (especially MAD). Even as AM receives more of these birds over the next few years, they will be bound to be used initially in flights to European destinations. Perhaps an extraordinary rotation flight of a 772ER to GRU might happen during the first weeks, but they will definitely be flown to Europe on a regular basis.

In any case, AM's MEX-GRU route is getting a few more frequencies now that more 767ER's are joining the fleet, and that is also great news; I think that the goal is to finish 2004 with one daily MEX-GRU flight using mostly -200's but also -300's.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

As Pecevanne says if no surprises AM will fly the T7 in 2005. So far I've heard about June 05.

Great news really. Are there any plans of including more european cities with the T7?

Unfortunately no new routes. Only reinforcing presence to MAD and CDG to 14X with B767/777.

Ricardo APM




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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2750 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

"But how is AM acquiring 777's? used or new from factory?"

At this point in time, it is unlikely they will be new from the factory. There is an outside chance that they could lease them from ILFC. However, a much more likely scenario is (and one I heard rumored several times) is that they will lease 2 birds from their partner Air France. The other likely source is the 2 frames from Aeroflot that will be coming off lease very shortly, as Aeroflot has no intention of renewing these leases.

Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5236 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

In case they are new I bet on ILFC leasing 2 or 3 to AM. Perhaps those two ex. AeroFlot Hamlet69 mentions are another big possibility! Other possibilities to consider is a lease from Air France and the least possible could be leasing them from DL.

Ricardo APM




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

In case they are new I bet on ILFC leasing 2 or 3 to AM. Perhaps those two ex. AeroFlot Hamlet69 mentions are another big possibility!

...they aren't mutually exclusive; ILFC owns the two Aeroflot will be returning  Big grin


User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Doesn't UA have a bunch of these parked in the desert? I imagine that some deal to remove the expense from United's balance sheet and obtain fast delivery could be made.....


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