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User currently offlineAlitaliaORD From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 242 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1840 times:

I've noticed alot of people on this site are able to determine load factors when a flight is put in question. Is there any way a non-airline employee or a non travel agent can get that info? I know it's possible on AA's website and used to be on UA, but is there a general site that shows that info?


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User currently offlineFrontierCPT From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 973 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

Go to www.itn.net, and go through the normal booking process, after you have chosen the fight you wanted, and get to the part where you review your flights, there is an icon to choose your seats. But you can just see which seats are taken, and the amount of open seats left, and check the load factors.

User currently offlineNW7E7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 533 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

You can pretty much do that same thing with all airlines except WN.

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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 690 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

this doesn't have to mean anything - not everybody has got pre-assigned seats.

User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1585 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

The term Load Factors has been used on this forum so many times, but reading the overall messages from contributors, what is generally being looked for is usually a Specific Availability. Availability is an indication of the number of seats available on a specific flight. Remember ABC - Availability is Capacity minus Booked. The figures in CRS usually include a percentage overbooking profile placed by Yield Mangement in their experienced and infinite wisdom.

On the other hand the expression Load Factors is generally referred to as the actual number of carried passengers divided by capacity of the flight, expressed as a percentage. This, of course, relates to reports made after the aircraft has actualy departed, not as an expression of availabilty before departure.




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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

For Publicly held US airlines, the information is publicly available in their Shareholder reports (usually quarterly). Plus many of the folks on this board work for one airline or another, so they have pretty good insight. Also, most airports require that the airlines that serve them provide a report (usually monthly) to show how many pax were carried.

Don't waste your time with ITN, most airlines save a bunch of seats for their upper level Frequent Travelers, and also save many seats for Day of Departure. (i.e. exit row, bulkhead, etc.)



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User currently offlineAlitaliaORD From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

I remember someone putting a site on here that if you put in your departure city it shows the daily o/d to many destinations...does anyone know that site address?


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User currently offlineRaginMav From United States of America, joined May 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

I remember someone putting a site on here that if you put in your departure city it shows the daily o/d to many destinations...does anyone know that site address?

http://www.faremeasure.com

Choose a city from the drop-down at the bottom of the screen.

Does anyone know how this site generated their o/d pax numbers? are they DOT figures...??? Confused


User currently offlineAUAE From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 296 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Whoa, cool sight. I would like to know what data it is pulling!


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User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

Exact site thank you very much!


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User currently onlineDCAYOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 599 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

The Federal Department of Transportations requires all airlines flying within and to / from the United States to report the number of seats and passengers flown in any given month by city pair.

Both domestic and international carriers must report to this database called the T100 database.

It can be access publicly by going to www.transtats.bts.gov

Click on aviation

Then click on "Air Carrier Statistics (Form 41 Traffic)"

Then click on "Download" of either "T-100 domestic segment" or "T-100 international segment" depending on whether you want foreign or US internal data.

After you click download you can filter by geography and month and year to find out the load factors on flights to and from a given US state or foreign country.

Then computation of load factor = passengers / seats



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