United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0 Posted (16 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2639 times:
Two new airlines are coming soon that I think will give alot of competion to alot of the major west coast airlines. National Airlines will have it's hub in Las Vegas and will fly to Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago and New York-JFK and plans to add new flights to Seattle, Boston, Washington and to all major cities in the U.S with an all Boeing 757-200 fleet. Also another airline The Coast Airlines will have it's main hub in Portland, Oregon and will fly non-stop from Portland to New York-JFK and Boston and plans to expand to Seattle and Burbank. The Coast Airlines will have an all Airbus A320-200 fleet. The Coast Airlines was at first called Air PDX.
I think these airlines espically National Airlines will give alot of competion to United Airlines (Shuttle By United), Alaska Airlines, America West Airlines, Southwest Airlines and Delta AirLines the major airlines of the West Coast right now.
I think Alaska Airlines won't get alot of competion but it will if The Coast Airlines will start flights to Seattle and Burbank from Portland. Portland is Alaska Airlines' second largest hub. Also if Pro Air expands to Seattle that will mean trouble also to maybe Northwest Airlines.
Pro Air is based in Seattle but doesn't yet fly to Seattle with an all Boeing 737-400 fleet. I think the West Coast is the hottest market for airlines in the U.S and alot of airlines from East Coast will expand to cities like Las Vegas and Seattle espically U.S Airways, Continental Airlines and Delta AirLines but at the sametime I think there will be alot of new airlines like National Airlines and The Coast Airlines. The Coast Airlines and National Airlines both have website if you wanna check them out.
I think National Airlines will do the best and will turn out to be one of the best airlines.
Cody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1948 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (16 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2639 times:
I don't count on Continental expanding west unless it is from their already established hubs in Newark, Cleveland, or Houston. I don't understand the big west coast frenzy. I think it's an ego thing and if I were Continental, I'd sit back and watch the dog fight and just protect my own turf in Houston, Cleveland, and Newark. As for the start-ups, I don't know........I wish everyone the best, but I am not crazy about the routes. The Las vegas routes allow easy competition from already established carriers. The Portland routes could be upset by Delta especially when the Asian economy comes back full swing. Any comments on my opinion are welcome.
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4499 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (16 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2638 times:
I agree with you United777. National airlines seems to be the winner out of the bunch so far. This is just my speculation though. You have to remember though that people are always in the mood to go to Las Vegas. Viva Las Vegas!!!!
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
Fly777ual From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (16 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2638 times:
I thought Pro Air also had 737-300's. Oh well....I think that the West COast will be a hotbed for new activity (as seen here) as there are many people movin out here, etc. etc. etc. The Coast will be trans con--not PDX-BUR, etc. They sure would give Alaksa a run for their money, though!!!
PW4056 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (16 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2641 times:
This is the way I see the future of these two airlines:
They both "sound" very threatening, but I think they maybe shot down quickly by either UA or AL or DL or AWA. If not shot down, at least it will not be effective as a hub in the westcoast. DL and AL are the landlords of Portland; AWA is the landlord at Las Vegas: UA is the king of the westcoast. They can match the ticket price of National spontaneously. Remember, since learning the painful lesson from Southwest, UA is much smarter in killing new airlines in its westcoast cash cow. Shuttle by UA (to keep competitive against Southwest) is the reason for UA's continuing dominance in the westcoast today.
If indeed the two starters want to survive, this is the only solutions that I could think of right now:
Learn from Southwest: UA set up Shuttle to keep Southwest in line at some point, but not completely. Even though UA can claim its advantage in flight connections to everywhere at its hubs with about the same price as Southwest, Southwest focuses on passengers who want to fly point-to-point, not hubs-spokes network. Southwest also is known for its excellent turnaround time and reliable, always on-time schedule. Its route network is also known for serving airports near by, or even right next to the majors--like Dallas Love Field, Islip, BWI, Midway, SNA, Oakland, Orange County, etc. Southwest makes profit by looking into the ACTUAL need of the passengers (through studying what majors have done in paranoiding the passengers) and avoiding problems that nine out of ten majors have like random flight cancellations and poor on-time performance.