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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
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This afternoon when landing at JNB I saw a SAA 747SP parked at Denel Aviation (on the other side of JNB airport), it looked intact and in full SAA colours, any idea what that's all about? I thought all SAA SPs were long gone...


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
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User currently offlineIVO From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

All SAA SP's:

ZS-SPA Stored JNB 12/99 Broken up 18/10/02
ZS-SPB Last user: Panair N747KV. Stored 17/10/03 in US.
ZS-SPC Stored JNB 10/99 full colors WFU 10/03
ZS-SPD Last user: Corsair F-GTOM. Ferried CHR 16/9/02. Broken up.
ZS-SPE Stored JNB 22/01/04 All white.
ZS-SPF Written off 5/10/98 Maputo. Parted out 8/99

The aircraft you saw was probably ZS-SPC.

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I hope this answers your question.

Regards,
Ivo



User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1117 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3962 times:

Guys,

SA's 747-SP's will always have a very special place in my heart. My very first Atlantic crossing was on an SA 747-SP in 1981 (I was just an 11yo boy) from GIG to CPT! I loved the flight and continued later on an SA 742 from JNB-MAD-ORY, on my first trip ever to Europe!

cheers,

PDPsol


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

Weren´t there 2 airlines who planned to aquire them? One of them a freight operator (!!!). That plan sounded strange to me, and now it obviously failed. It would be nice though if one of these birds would fly again!

User currently offlineNz1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2268 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3875 times:
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It would be good to see them fly again. QF used to fly theirs into AKL and WLG all the time, and it was neat to see the squashed up 747.

Regards
NZ1


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

I used to love flying on the 74L - my favourite version of the 747 !

Re: ZS-SPF Written off 5/10/98 Maputo. Parted out 8/99

What happened ? SPF was the only SA 74L I flew on (GIG-CPT-JNB and MAD-JNB) - shame it got banged up.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3848 times:
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According to http://www.747sp.com/21263.html this particular aircraft had quite a checkered career, serving with SAA, Air Mauritius, Namib Air and LAM among others. It sucked a bird on take off from Maputo on October 5 1998 (my birthday by concidence) and the engine caught fire, burning through a wing panel and the damage was considered not economical to repair.

Edited to correct year of incident.

[Edited 2004-07-01 10:56:05]


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

That ZS-SPF was written off sounds dramatic because people who don´t know might think of an accident. But is was just a blown engine which damaged the wing which put an end to this already old aircraft. Plus it happened in a place with no facilities to repair it. It just wasn´t worth to repair it. If it would have been just 5 years younger they wouldn´t have condemned it.
In this case its similar to events like the Hydro Air incident in Lagos last year or the landing accident of Cameroons sole 747 3 1/2 years ago. Age vs. value.


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

Thanks for the info - sad end for a beautiful old bird.

User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

IVO:

Can you please confirm that SPD really IS broken up ?

>ZS-SPD Last user: Corsair F-GTOM. Ferried CHR 16/9/02. Broken up

If so, what's your source and do you have a date for it ?
When was the last time anyone saw it at CHR ?

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3779 times:
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Tommy

I was about to check on YOUR website for this info, which wouldn't have helped I guess! According to airfleets.net ZS-SPD was "STD Chateauroux 17/09/02" (whatever that means).



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

STD means Stored, I think.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3760 times:
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here's a couple of pictures of what happened to ZS-SPA (apologies for the poor quality)






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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

Thats really sad ! Poor old thing - this was the aircraft that broke the distance record by flying nonstop Seattle-Cape Town, way back when - that record stood for years.

When did they start breaking up aircraft at JIA ? I don't remember that going on in my day (yes I am old !)


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10763 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3734 times:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=265420&PHPSESSID=059c9d1a0a5f01f2ee0825e899a24957

This is how F-GTOM looked like in April. Less than a 1% chance it will return to the skies I´m afraid.


User currently offlineIVO From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3640 times:

My info came from:

http://www.airlinerlist.com


You can download all the c/n from Airbus, Boeing and others and is recently updated.

Ivo


User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

ANDZ:

Yes, I was there when they broke her up. Terrible sight!
Sad to see them chop her up like that.....

IVO:

Ok, thanks. Looking at that site it says:
F-GTOM Corsair rr s31.03.96 STD sORY, Sarl Corsair Avtn r29.12.00, frd ORY-->CHR fcs 16.09.02, TT 78148 14983 l, s20.03.04

Which means she's still only STORED, not broken up.
That's good news. From the photo NA posted link too, I'd say she's in pretty good shape and will be able to fly again if someone needs her.


Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineHugo36 From France, joined Jul 2004, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

F-GTOM should stay at CHR.
By the way, I saw it at 11a.m.



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

I read F-GTOM needs a D-check soon. I doubt it will fly again. If I was rich I'de rescue it  Smile


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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3192 times:
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Iran Air's 4 747-SP86 are very much flying and can be seen regularly in Beijing, Heathrow, Kastrup and Narita. If you don't fancy flying to Iran, you can fly them on the following routes:
Beijing-Narita-Beijing
Beijing-Inchon-Beijing
Dubai-Dacca-Dubai



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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 962 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3150 times:

This was the aircraft that broke the distance record by flying nonstop Seattle-Cape Town, way back when - that record stood for years.

It did? When? What's the record now? SIN-EWR is only 9,534 miles, while SEA-CPT is 10,215 miles...



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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3126 times:

The SEA-CPT flight was a delivery flight from Boeing to SAA. It was not a scheduled flight with paying passengers!!

Just like the BA flight soon after the 747-400 came on. The LHR-SYD was a not a scheduled passenger flight.

The SIN-EWR is the longest scheduled passenger flight in the world.



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