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Aer Lingus New Routes Winter 2004  
User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 318 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3784 times:

Some new routes for EI - looks like the new 320s are going to be put to use. Note that, once again, there are no new longhaul announcments.

Las Palmas and Lanzarote services resemble charter service.

Source: aerlingus.com

Aer Lingus announces four new routes for winter 2004

Introductory fares from €9 each way Airline's network more than doubled in less than three years
Aer Lingus today announced the introduction of four new routes from Dublin to Europe in its winter schedule this year. This expansion brings to seventeen the number of new routes introduced in 2004, and supports the airline's growing European operation to and from Ireland.

Services to Liverpool, Las Palmas, Lanzarote and Budapest will start at the end of October 2004.

Announcing the expansion, Chief Executive, Willie Walsh, said, " The introduction of these new routes reaffirm Aer Lingus' commitment to providing direct, low fares access for Irish customers to new destinations as well as providing real growth opportunities in inbound tourism from emerging markets.

"We have more than doubled our network in less than three years and all our new routes are performing extremely well, providing new and exciting travel opportunities for our customers, " Mr Walsh concluded.

Introductory each way fares excluding taxes and charges are available on www.aerlingus.com, and start from:

Liverpool €9 Budapest €74
Las Palmas €135 Lanzarote €135


The airline will operate a daily service to Liverpool, while flights to Budapest will operate four days a week - on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday. A weekly service on Saturdays will operate to and from Lanzarote and Las Palmas.

Dublin, 01 July 2004


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User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1477 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3652 times:

EI return to Liverpool where Ryanair are the only carrier to DUB at present. (Many years ago EI were forced to drop LPL, in favour of FR by the Government. At that stage Fr were not doing too well, hard as that might be to believe now.) Let the games begin.

Incidentally EI are also dropping their basic TAB frequent flyer programme, - only the gold circle tiers will be retained.


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

What are the possible, viable long haul destinations that EI can start?


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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 777 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

EI have to start a route into Asia. How often have we discussed this but still there has been no announcement. HKG, SIN, DXB have all been mentioned, EI get your finger out. And a route into South Africa should be started too. I know that EI want to start new US routes but are they going to just sit back ond concentrate on European flights until the Irish and US governments sort out the bi-lateral agreement. They will be left behind if that is their plan


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3208 times:

EI returns to Liverpool mainly because of a better fleet utilisation, right?Instead of letting the aircraft stand in Dublin, they operate two short flights. As long as the variable costs are compensated it makes sense.

This is why they fly Dublin-Bristol as well.

Regards,
RJ100



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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

I'm really pleased for Aer Lingus regarding their LPL service. For many years they could not fly this route due to government restrictions. EI have reviewed this route over and over again over the past five years, and with their lower costs can now operate the route.

Aer Lingus used to be the preffered airline of Liverpool FC - not sure if this is the case anymore.




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User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3117 times:


Those routes will all be operated with the 737-500, the last sets of new routes, Warsaw etc. seem to be switching to A320's.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32783 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Note that, once again, there are no new longhaul announcments.

Once new US/Ireland treaty agreements are worked out, Miami and/or San Francsico will be announced. Unfortunately, EI cannot fly to either. There are reliable rumours that say that if EI just can't get access to Miami, they'll have AA do it.



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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3092 times:

I Wonder if the LPA and Lanzarote flights will get an IB code?

User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

At only once weekly, I doubt it, but every $$$ counts.


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User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

I'm amazed that EI can get hold of the passengers to do these new routes. Ireland has such a small population that it must mean the entire population would have to travel about 5 times a year each!

Regardless of the fare offered no one would think of initially routing westbound to go eastbound. A codeshare would seem the obvious way forward.

I'm really pleased that EI are getting their act together and expanding.


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 777 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Dont get me wrong, Im really happy that further new routes have been announced, especially to eastern Europe. For ages there was only the Prague service but now Budapest along with the recently started Warsaw flights have expanded EI's operations well. But I just think they have to be looking further afield. I agree with MAH4546 that AA may well operate the MIA-DUB flights with an EI codeshare, and perhaps other US flights, I heard somewhere that AA could operate DFW-DUB flights too. But EI have to use their membership of OneWorld better and link up with QF and CX to give them access to Asia and Australia.

As for IB codesharing on the LPA or Lanzarote flights, I dont see it happening. They only codeshare on the MAD and BCN routes at the moment, surely Valencia would be a higher priority for a codeshare.



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Babybus,

You live on an island too, so you know about that burning desire to get off it once and a while!  Wink/being sarcastic Irish people take on average four foreign holidays per year, and of course there is the large inbound market too. Since the ecomony picked up (we actually are the second richest EU country in terms of GDP per head) we've been travelling much more too for short breaks.


It is proving very difficult to get seats to europe at short notice this summer. I've been trying to practically anywhere EI fly for next week and it's proving difficult to say the least!


User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Will EI continue serving DBV this winter or is it just a summer service?

User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Flycro,

Year round as far as I can gather. It's in the winter timetable online.


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Dont fall for that GDP figure that sayes that Ireland is the second richest nation in Europe. Its so goddamed high because of all the exports from Intel and Pfizer. Better to look at GNP, which shows ireland where it rightly falls - about half way down the list.

End of Economics lesson.  Smile



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User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Bestwestern,

There are a very many views on that, so I wont argue!  Wink/being sarcastic Where did you get the GNP figure out of interest?


User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7152 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

Economist article about six months ago - sorry I dont have it to hand at present - article was discussing the perils of using GDP to decipher growth - excellent example is India were GDP is skyrocketing, but GNP is virtually static - basically the exports from outsourcing is having little local impact. They also discussed Ireland as another example, with the example of Viagra adding 0.3% to Irelands GDP growth in its first year of launch (Viagra is made in Ireland).

End of Economics lesson two.  Smile



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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 777 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

Can we please stick to the point, unless Viagara and Aer Lingus are somehow linked (and I dont want any mile high jokes!!!!)


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineSnnams From Ireland, joined Apr 2004, 288 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2856 times:

EIRules,

Sorry dude!  Wink/being sarcastic But it must be said, you'd need Viagra to make some of the older EI hosties look attractive...

(waiting for mass onslaught from EI "mature" crew)....


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

So if an Irish businessman wants to go to LPA for a meeting on a Friday they could fly out via MAD to LPA and return direct from LPA to DUB on EI, a bit more convenient than both ways via MAD, if the LPA to DUB flight had an IB code! Alliance member airlines are supposed to work together to satify their high end passengers, because that is where the profit margins are.

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

When EK start services to DUB wouldn't it have a huge impact on any potential EI route to Asia. I imagine the market is not big enough to support two carriers.


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User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 777 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

When are EK starting to fly to DUB? Where is there information on this?


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
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